| --- Log opened Wed Jun 04 00:00:06 2014 |
| 00:51 | < Soren> | Hello. |
| 00:52 | < Soren> | It is very, very weird to come in here and hour and a half after Ray and not see several disconnect messages between what he said and what I said. |
| 00:58 | < Ced23Ric> | Spacemagic. |
| 01:00 | < Ced23Ric> | http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1401840011859.png |
| 01:01 | < Ced23Ric> | Plundered the lego of a friend. |
| 01:01 | < Ced23Ric> | Literally 15 years old bin of LEGO. |
| 01:01 | < Ced23Ric> | After 3h of "MFZ worthy" parts sorting and then, colour sorting, this is what we got. :D |
| 01:32 | < Mantisking> | :-P |
| 01:32 | < Mantisking> | Looks like a C6 variation. |
| 01:37 | < Mantisking> | Ced, Soren? |
| 01:38 | < Soren> | Yo. |
| 01:40 | < Ced23Ric> | Yo. |
| 01:40 | < Ced23Ric> | And it is C6, yeah. |
| 01:41 | < Mantisking> | Well, except for the hips. |
| 01:41 | < Ced23Ric> | All C6. |
| 01:41 | < Ced23Ric> | The only thing not C6 is the gun. |
| 01:41 | < Mantisking> | Congrats on that presentation. |
| 01:41 | < Ced23Ric> | Well, and that single 1x1 plate in the head. |
| 01:41 | < Ced23Ric> | Which one? C-Base? |
| 01:41 | < Ced23Ric> | Yeah, I was pretty stoked. |
| 01:41 | < Mantisking> | Yeah. |
| 01:42 | < Ced23Ric> | Out of all presentations, I got the most votes in favour. :D |
| 01:43 | < Mantisking> | Nice. |
| 01:44 | < Ced23Ric> | Anyway, almost 3am, bed time. :) |
| 01:44 | | Ced23Ric is now known as Bed23Ric |
| 01:44 | < Mantisking> | I've got three or four ideas floating through my head right now and I can't sem to get them to gel. |
| 01:44 | < Mantisking> | Later. |
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| 03:22 | < addking> | evenin' |
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| 05:00 | < addking> | grumble grumble |
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| --- Log opened Wed Jun 04 10:10:09 2014 |
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| 14:16 | < locas> | mraichelson, you grew up in ithaca :O |
| 14:16 | | * locas is toootally stalking you |
| 14:16 | < mraichelson> | my family is from the area. i mostly moved around while my stepdad was in the airforce. but i did 7th grade in romulus, 8th in ithaca, high school in trumansburg. |
| 14:17 | < locas> | cool |
| 14:17 | < locas> | I'm super excited that someone from that area is looking for a game |
| 14:17 | < locas> | I live near there :D |
| 14:18 | < mraichelson> | it was funny finding out hackjob and i went to high school together (though we never actually knew each other). |
| 14:18 | < locas> | yeah that's pretty cool |
| 14:18 | < locas> | maybe you would've been fraands |
| 14:25 | < locas> | I wonder if he wants to play RA or IO |
| 14:26 | < locas> | I kinda hope RA since I don't have shit for IO assembled |
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| 15:29 | < mraichelson> | mmm, not on auto dealership wifi anymore. |
| 15:30 | < mraichelson> | ālocas: I wonder if he wants to play RA or IOā |
| 15:30 | < mraichelson> | was that re: hackjob? |
| 15:30 | < locas> | yeah |
| 15:30 | < mraichelson> | i know he had a bunch fo RA stuff built, not sure if he tore any of it down for the IO stuff he was experimenting with. |
| 15:31 | < locas> | I'm down to play either, I am really excited to build for IO but that might require bricklinking |
| 15:31 | < locas> | if I want to do anything fancy |
| 15:33 | < mraichelson> | yeah, iām still having a heck of a time trying to think in ships for the most part. |
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| 15:33 | < mraichelson> | and i went from āno legoā to ābunches of tiny frame partsā without much in-between for larger parts. |
| 15:34 | < Mantisking> | Hello. |
| 15:34 | < mraichelson> | hola |
| 15:35 | < Mantisking> | I can understand the "suddenly having a lot of Lego" feeling. |
| 15:36 | < mraichelson> | he he. and never the ārightā lego. :) |
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| 19:17 | < Mantisking> | 'lo? |
| 19:20 | < Rex> | Hey |
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| 20:04 | < Ced23Ric> | Heya! |
| 20:06 | < Soren> | Hey. |
| 20:08 | < Ced23Ric> | How's things? |
| 20:08 | < Ced23Ric> | Saw you posted that modulex freighter. |
| 20:09 | < Soren> | Pretty good, and yeah. |
| 20:09 | < Soren> | Sorting is proceeding apace. |
| 20:09 | < Soren> | I can see the end of it, which is heartening. |
| 20:10 | < Soren> | I built a tiny tripodal hate-bot, which, well, you knew I was gonna. |
| 20:10 | < Ced23Ric> | Pics of that yet? |
| 20:10 | < Soren> | I can snap one. |
| 20:11 | < Ced23Ric> | That'd be interesting enough! |
| 20:22 | < FlakManiak> | Hey Soren. |
| 20:22 | < Soren> | Hey |
| 20:23 | < Ced23Ric> | Soren? |
| 20:23 | < Ced23Ric> | https://www.flickr.com/photos/xezav/4743539371/ |
| 20:23 | < FlakManiak> | A while ago in the cult of size creep thread, you said something about writing a post concerning the cult of the lone build. Are you still planning to do that? Regardless, what are your thoughts on the topic? |
| 20:23 | < Ced23Ric> | how do these arms into those headlight bricks? |
| 20:23 | < Soren> | Maybe, and, nothing real complex. |
| 20:23 | < Soren> | hang on. |
| 20:24 | < Soren> | Ah. |
| 20:24 | < Soren> | Minifig hands. |
| 20:24 | < Ced23Ric> | Wait, how? |
| 20:24 | < Ced23Ric> | Oh. |
| 20:24 | < Soren> | Yeah |
| 20:24 | < Ced23Ric> | Stem into hip, hand into brick? |
| 20:24 | < Soren> | Yup. |
| 20:25 | < Soren> | Try it. |
| 20:25 | < Ced23Ric> | Good fucking damnit. |
| 20:27 | < locas> | oh my I like that liitle suit |
| 20:27 | < locas> | litte* |
| 20:27 | < Ced23Ric> | I know, it's pretty snazzy. |
| 20:27 | < Ced23Ric> | Which is why I am trying to work it out right now. |
| 20:28 | < Ced23Ric> | Oh, and LDD learnt the stud into pinhole connection. |
| 20:28 | < Ced23Ric> | I'm pretty happy. |
| 20:29 | < Soren> | Yay. |
| 20:29 | < FlakManiak> | I wonder how many of the threads about a frame design actually have a company to go with. And so many of the SSCs and MFZ reviews don't really... Seem to be conducive to having whole companies. |
| 20:29 | < Soren> | YEah. |
| 20:29 | < Soren> | Thatās essentially it. |
| 20:30 | < Soren> | Iād like to see more people planning around designs that can be used to play the game. |
| 20:30 | < FlakManiak> | I shoulda got some Umbaran MHC polybags while they were widely available. Now THAT is a set conducive to people being able to play. |
| 20:30 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjfj3f3ajzie7kl/Hateful%20Robot.jpg |
| 20:30 | < Soren> | Yeah, ti looks like it. |
| 20:30 | < FlakManiak> | At some point I'll need to go back to all my companies and try to give them full system loadouts. |
| 20:30 | < Soren> | it* |
| 20:30 | < FlakManiak> | The purple guys will be especially hard. |
| 20:30 | < Ced23Ric> | You know, I got similar feedback on the /mf0/ thread. |
| 20:31 | < Soren> | Several of the Mixels polybags are also instaframes. |
| 20:31 | < Ced23Ric> | People are building singular frames, at an alarming rate. |
| 20:31 | < Ced23Ric> | But no one except for a few gets companies going. |
| 20:31 | < locas> | that's silly |
| 20:31 | < FlakManiak> | I'm glad I made sure to prioritize "having a company" with my first parts order. |
| 20:31 | < FlakManiak> | And then somehow that turned into "if I don't make five of it, it's useless." |
| 20:31 | < locas> | even if you're not making frames/loadouts to play, duplicates=credibility at microscale |
| 20:32 | < FlakManiak> | I kept wanting to make four more white Chubs to go with my scale Chub. |
| 20:32 | < FlakManiak> | And my bright light orange guy bothered me a bit in that I only had the one. |
| 20:32 | < locas> | I got into my flikr count today |
| 20:32 | < locas> | only to discover that it wasn't my flikr account |
| 20:32 | < locas> | I think the yahoo Id tied to my flickr expired or something |
| 20:33 | < locas> | on the upside I found someone on the hangar who is local and wants to play |
| 20:33 | | * locas is just summing up their day, this is unrelated to duplicate frames |
| 20:33 | < FlakManiak> | But then I made the Dragon Tyrant, so finally I've broken out of the "five or nothing" mindset, and I kind of love it, because let's face it, I do not need five blue dragons. But then... My compulsion to make four more Dragon Tyrants has grown from "essentially zero" to "almost contemplating for real". |
| 20:33 | < Soren> | Heh. |
| 20:33 | < Ced23Ric> | Your FlickR is sweet. |
| 20:33 | < Soren> | You should have seen my desk when i was taking apart the Ijad I built. |
| 20:34 | < Ced23Ric> | It's the intermediate builder inhibited by limited parts, yet makes awesome stuff out of it stage that should be EVERYWHERE. |
| 20:34 | < Ced23Ric> | I keep coming back to it and revel in the nostalgia. |
| 20:34 | < locas> | daw |
| 20:34 | < FlakManiak> | But that's the thing: I had several playable forces ages ago. Anything I build now is because I like the look of it, really. So maybe I shouldn't even care about whether it's game-usable at all. |
| 20:34 | < Soren> | I think itās good to divide the two! |
| 20:34 | < Soren> | I tend to make frames out of loose parts anymore, just whatever I have lying around. |
| 20:35 | < Soren> | Iām saving the complex stuff for the larger, more ambitious projects Iāve had on the back burner for a couple years now. |
| 20:35 | < FlakManiak> | I should probably focus more on aesthetics for things like the purple guys, and tell myself that they'll never be gaming pieces, and focus on game-usability for the original black and white guys, the red guys, etc. |
| 20:36 | < Soren> | ITās worth a shot. |
| 20:36 | < Soren> | Right now I have two companiesā worth each of Moon Fang Tribe and Dreaming Blade, and theyāre pretty simple, but they have few more complex, unique units to lend them flavor. |
| 20:37 | < Soren> | So thatās always an option, establish a good base of solid, playable units and have one or two fancy specialists. |
| 20:37 | < FlakManiak> | Also I could do something like use the Dragon Tyrant with the Blue Dragons, but I think I might love the matching chassis thing too much for that. |
| 20:38 | < locas> | I wish I'd kept my reaver built |
| 20:38 | < locas> | that was my favorite "fancy specialist" |
| 20:39 | < locas> | none of my surviving companies have any unique frames, really |
| 20:39 | < Ced23Ric> | Who survived? |
| 20:40 | < Ced23Ric> | What about the mafiosi? |
| 20:40 | < locas> | dead long ago |
| 20:40 | < Ced23Ric> | ,_; nvr5get |
| 20:40 | < locas> | the dogs of tharsis (umfl), co-op of beza (fc), starlight sisterhood (ijad), and 4th estate (fc gunbuddies) survived |
| 20:41 | < locas> | but a lot of the ace frames that were built with them did not |
| 20:41 | < Soren> | Alas. |
| 20:41 | < Soren> | I tend to want each unique loadout to also have a unique frame, just to make it easy for me to remember what carries what. |
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| 20:42 | < locas> | well, each of my companies has a "unique" frame, but for my umfl company for instance, that's just a red chub |
| 20:42 | < locas> | or for the ijad it's a tachi |
| 20:42 | < locas> | but they aren't UNIQUE unique |
| 20:42 | < locas> | not CRAAAZY |
| 20:42 | < Ced23Ric> | Who did you find to play with? |
| 20:42 | < locas> | hackjob |
| 20:42 | < Ced23Ric> | WHY DID I NOT FIND ANYONE?! ;_; |
| 20:42 | < locas> | posted in the game finder forum |
| 20:42 | < locas> | goes to my flgs |
| 20:42 | < locas> | apparently |
| 20:43 | < mraichelson> | are you actually in ithaca or just around there, locas? |
| 20:43 | < locas> | about an hour west of it |
| 20:43 | < mraichelson> | where at? |
| 20:43 | < locas> | geneva |
| 20:43 | < mraichelson> | cool, have an aunt and uncle there. |
| 20:43 | < locas> | :o |
| 20:44 | < mraichelson> | familyās all scattered along from ithaca to rochester. |
| 20:44 | < mraichelson> | and up to syracuse. |
| 20:44 | < locas> | cool |
| 20:44 | < locas> | Soren, oh I just now realized what you meant |
| 20:44 | < Ced23Ric> | A good friend of mine works at the uni of Syracruse. |
| 20:44 | < locas> | each loadout=new frame |
| 20:44 | < locas> | yeah, I did that too |
| 20:44 | < locas> | https://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/8089855071/ |
| 20:45 | < Soren> | It just feels right for the Ijad. |
| 20:45 | < locas> | like this is two direct fire (the striders), one artillery (the backpack slammer), two melee, one scout |
| 20:45 | < Soren> | mm. |
| 20:46 | < FlakManiak> | Hmm. I should find more Northeast people at some point. |
| 20:46 | < Ced23Ric> | I'm boring, I merely differentiate between grunts and artillery. |
| 20:47 | < mraichelson> | yeah, i mostly just differentiate by gear/weapon, or color changes based on gear/weapon (soldiers are light grey w/{accent}, artillery is dark grey w/{accent}) |
| 20:48 | < locas> | color doesn't mean anything in my companies |
| 20:48 | < locas> | like two of my companies have a colored ace but it's just a grunt |
| 20:48 | < locas> | in dice terms |
| 20:48 | < Ced23Ric> | Because your guys get their paintjobs in GTA? |
| 20:48 | < locas> | because I only have so many bricks :P |
| 20:49 | < FlakManiak> | Not sure any of my companies have nonmatching colors at all. But then I'm the type to order parts for every company I make. |
| 20:49 | | * mraichelson nods along with FlakManiak |
| 20:49 | < FlakManiak> | I guess the... No, not even a different-colored accent for a squad leader. |
| 20:49 | < locas> | back in the day I made companies where no two frames shared a color scheme |
| 20:49 | < mraichelson> | like this is about as wild and ādifferent colors!ā as iāve gotten. https://www.flickr.com/photos/nifkin/12307373344/ |
| 20:50 | < FlakManiak> | I guess I'm just very OCD about having things match. |
| 20:50 | < locas> | everyone was a unique badass capable of psychically destroying the world |
| 20:50 | < locas> | I've toned it down since then. |
| 20:50 | < Ced23Ric> | Ha. |
| 20:50 | < FlakManiak> | Also I tend to use the logic: "This variation on this type of frame looks cooler than the basic type. That's great. Now... Shouldn't I make EVERY frame in the company look better?" and then things match mostly. |
| 20:50 | < locas> | the mafia guys got away with it, though |
| 20:50 | < Ced23Ric> | Well, I like to use veteran markers. |
| 20:51 | < FlakManiak> | Hmm. Maybe I should once more make morningstars for the sand green guys. I was gonna have their basic melee units all use morningstars. |
| 20:51 | < FlakManiak> | I might just do that. |
| 20:52 | < FlakManiak> | Also I'm contemplating red guys to go along with them, of the same chassis design. Somebody stop me. |
| 20:52 | < Ced23Ric> | Why? |
| 20:52 | < locas> | can't ever have enough red guys |
| 20:52 | < Ced23Ric> | I might throw you a curveball. |
| 20:52 | < mraichelson> | no. donāt. stop. :| |
| 20:52 | < Ced23Ric> | Dark red & Sand green. |
| 20:52 | < FlakManiak> | Hah yeah, I guess you all have an incentive to keep me going. |
| 20:54 | < FlakManiak> | Well, at any rate, I need to start planning the parts order in more detail for one of the Dragon Tyrant's companions. |
| 20:54 | < FlakManiak> | Got some new ideas on this one. |
| 20:54 | < FlakManiak> | I just need to lock down the shoulder design and the weapons, and decide about the hands. |
| 20:55 | < FlakManiak> | Also I need to figure out what to do about the lack of red 6x3 wedge plates. |
| 20:55 | < Soren> | Red 3x3 wedge plates, clearly. |
| 20:55 | < FlakManiak> | Not the half-octagons. The ones I use in my dragon wings. |
| 20:56 | < Soren> | Ah. |
| 20:57 | < Soren> | 3x2s, then ;) |
| 20:57 | < FlakManiak> | Speaking of that, if I'm to make a model that's just straight-up a dragon, I'll need to solve the color issue there, too. |
| 20:58 | < FlakManiak> | Hmm... You might be right. I could link them up with a corner plate and a 2x2, couldn't I? |
| 20:58 | < FlakManiak> | I'll look into this. |
| 20:58 | < Soren> | Yup. |
| 21:02 | < FlakManiak> | Hmm. Guess I need to crack open the LDD file for the project that would use 'em, and start replacing and see how it looks. |
| 21:04 | < FlakManiak> | Hmm. More thickness on the wing segments might even look *good*. |
| 21:04 | < FlakManiak> | And I'd certainly rather do this than have to build in dark red. |
| 21:05 | < FlakManiak> | Well then, the Molten Dragon might just be back on track. |
| 21:06 | < FlakManiak> | I just need to find a way to jazz up the dark red one-off I already have... |
| 21:10 | < Rex> | Any pictures? |
| 21:12 | < FlakManiak> | Of the dark red one? Yes but they're not great and I haven't posted them. I feel like I need better posing, better photography, and maybe a better build before I show it off. |
| 21:12 | < FlakManiak> | As you might have been able to tell I'm not really the sort to show off WIP stuff. |
| 21:13 | < FlakManiak> | I need it to be perfect before I show it, for some value of perfect. |
| 21:14 | < Ced23Ric> | I feel like I need to make another Bricklink run soon. |
| 21:14 | < Ced23Ric> | Muh ships. |
| 21:14 | < Ced23Ric> | And, yeah. I am going for the Modulex goodies. |
| 21:14 | < Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/modulex_hva_freighter.png |
| 21:15 | < Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/modulex_hva_hospital.png |
| 21:15 | < Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/modulex_hva_trooptransport.png |
| 21:15 | < FlakManiak> | Modulex goodies? |
| 21:15 | < Ced23Ric> | Modulex bricks go over the clip tiles. |
| 21:15 | < Ced23Ric> | And wide modulex brics go over the grill tiles. |
| 21:15 | < Ced23Ric> | For the latter two, that is. |
| 21:15 | < Ced23Ric> | Hammerhead bridge. |
| 21:16 | < Ced23Ric> | Now I just gotta see about some other designs I saw that I like. |
| 21:17 | < FlakManiak> | 2x2s and 2x4s or something? (Modulex bricks are smaller, right?) |
| 21:17 | < Ced23Ric> | 1x2 and 1x4 |
| 21:17 | < FlakManiak> | Ah. |
| 21:17 | < Ced23Ric> | They are tiny. :D |
| 21:19 | < FlakManiak> | Would be cool if things like Modulex took off as legit architectural tools. Also cube bricks are kinda cool. |
| 21:19 | < Soren> | Thatās what Modulez was originally for. |
| 21:19 | < Ced23Ric> | They did, in the 80s. |
| 21:19 | < Soren> | -z +x |
| 21:20 | < Ced23Ric> | Well, late 60ies, to early 70ies. |
| 21:23 | < Soren> | It was one of those products that failed not because they neccessarily did anything wrong, just not enough right. |
| 21:23 | < Soren> | Didnāt do well with architects, but did well with planners, etc. |
| 21:24 | < Soren> | The tolerances are also higher, which i donāt imagine helped the price point any, originally. |
| 21:25 | < FlakManiak> | By higher do you mean stricter manufacturing? |
| 21:25 | < Soren> | yes. |
| 21:26 | < Soren> | I forget precisely what it was, but the corners on those little fuckers are crisp enough to be sharp. |
| 21:27 | < FlakManiak> | Even stricter than Lego proper... Now that's something. |
| 21:38 | < FlakManiak> | Okay good, it's not something lame like 1x3 plates not coming in red that will stop me. |
| 21:38 | < FlakManiak> | So now the question is if the one-stud connection of the back 2x3 wedges is good enough. |
| 22:18 | < FlakManiak> | Alright well, after I do some sturdiness tests with the wing plate replacement design, I might just order parts for this next dragon mech... |
| 22:48 | < Ced23Ric> | Soren, you around? |
| 22:53 | < Ced23Ric> | Is the green/grey/yellow spread about par for the UMFL ? |
| 22:54 | < Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/UMFL_destroyer.png |
| 22:57 | < Rex> | That looks pretty cool. |
| 22:59 | < Soren> | Looks fine. |
| 23:00 | < Soren> | I would point out that the octagonal bent section does not, to my knowledge, come in light gray. |
| 23:03 | < Ced23Ric> | It does according to brick link! |
| 23:03 | | * mraichelson forsees there being like 1 for sale and itās $32. |
| 23:04 | < Soren> | 12, but close enough. |
| 23:04 | < Soren> | $6 a pop. |
| 23:04 | < Ced23Ric> | FUCK MY BUTT WHAT. |
| 23:04 | < Soren> | hahahahahahahahaha |
| 23:04 | < Soren> | Minimum buy of FUCK YOU, too. |
| 23:05 | < Ced23Ric> | Yeah, well, dark grey it is. |
| 23:05 | < mraichelson> | āthrusters on jaunty angleā OR ānot spend $24 on 4 partsā |
| 23:05 | < mraichelson> | hmmmmm |
| 23:05 | < FlakManiak> | There's embarrassingly much dust on the Dragon Tyrant in the photos I took... I didn't see it in person, and I didn't even see it on the laptop... But on my big screen I can see it and... Agh. I guess that's the curse of having a nice camera. |
| 23:05 | < Soren> | Oh, heād have to spend more than that. |
| 23:05 | < Ced23Ric> | Mike: You say that as if NOT spending that is not an option. |
| 23:05 | < Ced23Ric> | But the min buy of ALL OF THEM WHOREFACE is a kick in the dick. |
| 23:06 | < Ced23Ric> | Green it is, 2 cents. |
| 23:06 | < Ced23Ric> | Fuck that noise. |
| 23:06 | < Ced23Ric> | Also: It's a Pierre E Fischi inspired design. Because that shit looks snazzy. |
| 23:06 | < FlakManiak> | By light grey do you mean actual light grey? What of light bley? Are you actually using legacy colors? |
| 23:06 | < Ced23Ric> | I try to avoid them. |
| 23:07 | < FlakManiak> | Is it just not available in light bley? |
| 23:10 | < Ced23Ric> | Nope. That's an aquanauts era part. |
| 23:11 | < Rex> | Aquanauts was rad. |
| 23:12 | < Rex> | I have this huge baseplate from one of the sharks sets I plan to use if I can get a group together. |
| 23:12 | < FlakManiak> | Yeah if they brought back Aquazone I would be so into it. |
| 23:12 | < FlakManiak> | Aquanauts and Aquasharks, awesome. Aqua Raiders and Stingrays? Sick. |
| 23:12 | < FlakManiak> | Hydronauts? Cool too. |
| 23:12 | < Rex> | I'm a fan of the UFO set too, but there isn't really too much I can do with those parts. |
| 23:14 | < FlakManiak> | I should look into used copies of some '90s sets on BrickLink. For some of them I've seen 'em at their original price. So nice not to want Star Wars sets and shit that get price inflated to hell and back. |
| 23:14 | < FlakManiak> | People who want a UCS Falcon? I pity 'em. |
| 23:16 | < FlakManiak> | Oh damn, the Macross set got rejected on Cuusoo. That's sad. |
| 23:16 | < Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/UMFL_frigatev2.png |
| 23:16 | < Ced23Ric> | Works as a frigate, too. |
| 23:16 | < FlakManiak> | I would have bought one for sure and I've never even seen any Macross. |
| 23:18 | < FlakManiak> | "which is very hard to pronounce, if you're not Danish" |
| 23:18 | < Soren> | Flak: http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/Sea-Tron |
| 23:19 | < Soren> | Disclaimer: I might be a huge jerk for letting you know about this. |
| 23:19 | < FlakManiak> | ...I had never heard about this. And now I need it. |
| 23:20 | < Soren> | Itās all prototype stuff. Never sold as sets. |
| 23:20 | < Soren> | And a great many of those parts do not come in those colors. |
| 23:20 | < Soren> | BUT it does give you a hint whence the things you like came. |
| 23:21 | < FlakManiak> | Agh. So this would have come before Aquazone? |
| 23:22 | < Soren> | More like āevolved into itā |
| 23:22 | < FlakManiak> | The Sea-Tron alien looks very advanced for that era. |
| 23:22 | < Soren> | I suspect thatās part of why it got scotched. |
| 23:23 | < FlakManiak> | Anyway... I just want Lego to make more stuff as if from that era. Maybe with modern parts, maybe without... Modern colors though. (But in my ideal world we'd revert to brown, because reddish brown just ain't my style.) |
| 23:23 | < Soren> | There was a certain delightful simplicity to it, yeah. |
| 23:23 | < Soren> | There is, of course, no reason you canāt do it yourself. |
| 23:26 | < Soren> | I can see a lot of reasons why this line didnāt work - too closely tied to the monorail, too complex and ambitious with the new parts, and old parts in new colors. |
| 23:27 | < Soren> | Easy to see whay it got scaled down. |
| 23:27 | < Soren> | why* |
| 23:30 | < FlakManiak> | Yeah apparently the monorail thing is bad news. |
| 23:32 | < Soren> | Itās very cool, but ended up being a disaster for a number of very good reasons. |
| 23:33 | < Soren> | All the limitations of toy train and none of the flexibility |
| 23:33 | < Soren> | +S |
| 23:34 | < Soren> | I should unpack mine eventually. Give it a good clean and see if it still runs. |
| 23:36 | < FlakManiak> | Agh. I never did think the Macross project would get made, but I thought we'd at least get more explanation! |
| 23:37 | < Rex> | I would have bought some of it, easily. |
| 23:39 | < Soren> | I think something like ti could be revived and work just fine. |
| 23:39 | < Soren> | it* |
| 23:39 | < FlakManiak> | The monorail, you mean? |
| 23:39 | < Soren> | Yeah |
| 23:40 | < Soren> | The Macross thing was always an outside shot. |
| 23:40 | < mraichelson> | just convince them to put a space train in the next star wars movie and sell it as a licensed set :P |
| 23:40 | < FlakManiak> | The monorail seemed cool. Dunno if I'm the target market, but I'd at least be interested and give it a look if they made another. |
| 23:40 | < FlakManiak> | Hah yeah, if Star Wars has a monorail we'll get one. |
| 23:41 | < FlakManiak> | And the obsessive Star Wars collectors probably won't care that much because it's not in Empire Strikes Back, so it shouldn't shoot up too much in price afterwards. |
| 23:41 | < FlakManiak> | Well then I guess we just have to convince Disney... |
| 23:41 | < Soren> | heh |
| 23:41 | < Soren> | There were some pretty bad design problems with the monorail, though. |
| 23:42 | < Soren> | lots of connectors that only existed on those pieces, which made it really limiting. |
| 23:42 | < FlakManiak> | Agh |
| 23:42 | < Soren> | ITās telling that I havenāt unpacked it and tried to do anything with it in, oh, probably ten years. |
| 23:42 | < FlakManiak> | And no convenient illegal connections from it? |
| 23:42 | < Soren> | What WOULD work is a totally new, more flexible system. |
| 23:42 | < Soren> | Nope. |
| 23:43 | < Soren> | Also, itās cog-driven, and the cog has to be seated rightā¦ itās a mess. |
| 23:43 | < FlakManiak> | I guess monorails are no longer futuristic and spacey, so unless we get one in some kind of city set... Well whatever. I'd rather have Sea-Tron than a monorail, if I'm honest. |
| 23:43 | < Soren> | the only thing youād really need to make a monorail-like system is curved gear racks. |
| 23:44 | < Ced23Ric> | Monorail was pretty boss. |
| 23:44 | < Soren> | Everything else you can use off-the-shelf Technic and System parts to build. |
| 23:44 | < FlakManiak> | Right right, they have those tiles with some flattened gear on them. |
| 23:45 | < Soren> | link? |
| 23:45 | < FlakManiak> | So curved ones of those and we're in business. |
| 23:45 | < Soren> | if itās the 1x4 gear rack, thatās what i meant. |
| 23:45 | < FlakManiak> | Or maybe those were from the original monorails? |
| 23:46 | < Soren> | No, those are normal Technic. |
| 23:46 | < Soren> | the original monorail uses a different tooth size. |
| 23:46 | < Ced23Ric> | Soren, do those 2/3 high tiles /w ridges that look like they are ribbed for my pleasure come in short? |
| 23:46 | < Soren> | Like I said, there are good reasons it failed. |
| 23:46 | < Ced23Ric> | Because they look fucking gorgeous with a 1x2 sloped grill. |
| 23:46 | < Soren> | link me to the piece. |
| 23:47 | < FlakManiak> | Hmm yeah, we're thinking of the same gear racks. I can't find the piece on BrickLink but we're thinking of the same one. |
| 23:47 | < FlakManiak> | So yeah if we had curved ones of those we'd be in business. |
| 23:47 | < Soren> | YEah. |
| 23:48 | < Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/UMFL_destroyer.png |
| 23:48 | < Ced23Ric> | Soren: In the middle section, in yellow. |
| 23:48 | < Soren> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=3743 |
| 23:48 | < Ced23Ric> | The ribbed buttlong piece. |
| 23:49 | < Soren> | ... |
| 23:49 | < Ced23Ric> | It's part of the greebling here, too, in red: https://www.flickr.com/photos/47881312@N04/6106422071/sizes/o/in/photostream/ |
| 23:50 | < FlakManiak> | What, the grille tile? |
| 23:50 | < Ced23Ric> | From the front sensor array down to the bridge with ball/radome. |
| 23:50 | < Soren> | I officially have no idea which piece youāre taling about. |
| 23:50 | < Ced23Ric> | The 1 wide, ribbed 2/3rds high element with ribs. |
| 23:50 | < Soren> | talking* |
| 23:50 | < Ced23Ric> | Which he leads into with a 1x2 sloped grille / latice on the yellow ship. |
| 23:51 | < Ced23Ric> | And leads out of with that, too. |
| 23:51 | < FlakManiak> | This thing: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=2412b ? |
| 23:51 | < Ced23Ric> | That is 1/3rds tall, and the ribs are 90Ā° off. |
| 23:51 | < Ced23Ric> | Sec. |
| 23:51 | < mraichelson> | did you post the right img link? |
| 23:51 | < Ced23Ric> | Yes. |
| 23:51 | < mraichelson> | the only yellow i see on there are 2x2 dishes? |
| 23:52 | < Ced23Ric> | Both have it. |
| 23:52 | < Ced23Ric> | Oh. |
| 23:52 | < Ced23Ric> | The first link is my retardation. |
| 23:52 | < Ced23Ric> | No matter! |
| 23:52 | < Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ribs.png |
| 23:52 | < Ced23Ric> | That. |
| 23:53 | < Ced23Ric> | The longass yellow ribbed 1 wie 2/3rds high thing. |
| 23:53 | < Ced23Ric> | *wide |
| 23:53 | < FlakManiak> | No idea what that part is. |
| 23:53 | < Ced23Ric> | It's part of older sets. |
| 23:54 | < Soren> | AAAAAAh. |
| 23:54 | < FlakManiak> | (Did you mean your first link to be your UMFL destroyer?) |
| 23:54 | < Soren> | Not, not that I know of. |
| 23:54 | < Soren> | Yet another old Space part that turned out to be a bad idea. |
| 23:54 | < Ced23Ric> | (Flak: No.) |
| 23:54 | < Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 23:54 | < Ced23Ric> | But the texture is cool. |
| 23:55 | < Soren> | http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=legocastle&itemID=25478559 Close as youāre gonna get. |
| 23:57 | < Ced23Ric> | Yeah. :/ |
| 23:59 | < Soren> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=3069bp05 These come in yellow, though. Iāve got a bunch. |
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