--- Log opened Mon May 19 00:00:10 2014 |
00:14 | < Soren> | Actually, i am here, but Iām kind of tempted to make you wait even longer ;D |
00:15 | < Ced23Ric> | God, you ass. |
00:15 | < Ced23Ric> | Why. |
00:15 | < Ced23Ric> | why do this to me? ;_; |
00:15 | < Soren> | Because itās hilarious. |
00:15 | < Soren> | Whatās on your mind? |
00:15 | < Ced23Ric> | Two things. |
00:15 | < Ced23Ric> | I smoked too much and drank too much coffee today. |
00:16 | < Ced23Ric> | While my entire sustenance was a bowl of cereal and a salad. |
00:16 | < Ced23Ric> | So, my tummy has the rumblies. |
00:16 | < Ced23Ric> | Which is probably why I cannot sleep. |
00:16 | < Soren> | Probably. |
00:16 | < Ced23Ric> | Also, I am in darktan masonry brick limbo. |
00:16 | < Soren> | we made chicken salad and pumpkin soup last night. So I didnāt have this problem. |
00:16 | < Ced23Ric> | Not enough for multiple pieces of cover and too many to not use them. |
00:16 | < Ced23Ric> | http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1400430518067.png |
00:17 | < Soren> | leftovers~ |
00:17 | < Ced23Ric> | I'd take it. |
00:17 | < Soren> | cute! |
00:17 | < Ced23Ric> | Just as itsy, bitsy terrain bits. |
00:17 | < Ced23Ric> | Make it look a bit more populated. |
00:17 | < Ced23Ric> | "And these are the ruins of ... wellfucksomething." |
00:17 | < Soren> | mm |
00:18 | < Soren> | You can also build walls intersecting them. |
00:18 | < Ced23Ric> | And I dished out 20 palm trees: http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1400428701526.png |
00:18 | < Soren> | mm. |
00:18 | < Soren> | Iāve been using arch bricks for those. |
00:18 | < Ced23Ric> | It's all my brown rounds, cones and plates. |
00:19 | < Soren> | Slightly less pretty, but you can stack them. |
00:19 | < Ced23Ric> | Yeah, I have none of those. |
00:19 | < Ced23Ric> | That's more or less a quick fix for terrain which I was lacking. |
00:19 | < Ced23Ric> | I also made four more walls and four pillars from all the tan bricks I had. |
00:19 | < Soren> | Well, they look pretty good. |
00:20 | < Ced23Ric> | In a group, they certainly do the trick! |
00:20 | < Ced23Ric> | The brown and white technic angle bits should arrive soon, hopefully. |
00:20 | < Soren> | hurrah |
00:21 | < Ced23Ric> | And then it's time for BIRCHES, baby. |
00:21 | < Soren> | whee |
00:21 | < Soren> | Or the odd aspen. |
00:22 | < Soren> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populus_tremuloides I grew up around tons of these. |
00:22 | < Ced23Ric> | I uploaded the stuff I built over the last 10 days to FlickR. |
00:22 | < Ced23Ric> | Now I am being swamped with emails, notifications and favourites. |
00:22 | < Soren> | So pretty. And a good way to put your yellow and bright light orange parts to use. |
00:22 | < Ced23Ric> | Are there yellow foliage bits? |
00:23 | < Soren> | dunno! Letās find out |
00:23 | < Ced23Ric> | Because you can totally make those with dark tan bits for the trunk, and throw in yellow foliage. If they exist. |
00:23 | < Soren> | I was thinking shitloads of 1x2 plates. |
00:23 | < Ced23Ric> | Which they probably don't, just because. |
00:23 | < Ced23Ric> | That works, too, but is fiddly and heavy. |
00:23 | < Ced23Ric> | I like the foliage bits because it's light weight. |
00:23 | < Ced23Ric> | Makes balancing a tree easier. |
00:23 | < Soren> | Iām just thinking in terms of the visual. |
00:23 | < Soren> | Hmm. Nope, but you can get dark orange. |
00:24 | < Ced23Ric> | for a photo op? |
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00:25 | < Ced23Ric> | You now what, I think I do the usual rump. |
00:25 | < Ced23Ric> | Stay up until 3am, hit the hay for a quick one, and then trudge through the day. |
00:27 | < Ced23Ric> | No yellow foliage. What a loss. |
00:27 | < Ced23Ric> | And the dark orange looks like dirty brown. |
00:27 | < Soren> | mm. |
00:27 | < Ced23Ric> | Not a fan! |
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00:29 | < Soren> | I think Iāve seen aftermarket yellow foliage, though. Dunno about the mold quality, but for something like that itās not too important. |
00:30 | < Ced23Ric> | It's pretty soft material. So that'd be okay. |
00:30 | < Ced23Ric> | Mhmm. |
00:30 | < Ced23Ric> | There is little left to do. Which is an odd feeling, after all this preperation. |
00:31 | < Ced23Ric> | Now I just gotta finish Condensed, call up stores and set up a schedule (that I can meet) and see how things go. |
00:31 | < Ced23Ric> | Maybe I can get some Fridays off earlier, if my coworker is back from his sick leave. |
00:31 | < Ced23Ric> | That'd allow me to hit two places a weekend. |
00:33 | < Soren> | A solid plan. |
00:33 | < Ced23Ric> | Soren. |
00:33 | < Ced23Ric> | https://www.flickr.com/photos/35895569@N05/8558032989/in/set-72157633153159897 |
00:33 | < Ced23Ric> | I have no idea what I am looking at. |
00:33 | < Ced23Ric> | What is this? What is it for? |
00:33 | < Soren> | I know not! |
00:34 | < Ced23Ric> | http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8133/8712393592_7b5b25139e.jpg |
00:34 | < Ced23Ric> | That ... doesn't even make sense. |
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15:48 | < Ced23Ric> | 'Sup, gentlefolks. |
15:48 | < Ced23Ric> | Emma, Soren, Mike. |
15:54 | < Ced23Ric> | Soren, around? |
15:56 | < locas> | Ced23Ric, was in gw2 |
15:56 | < Ced23Ric> | Hey Em. |
15:57 | < Ced23Ric> | I need stations. |
15:57 | < locas> | staaashuns |
15:57 | < Ced23Ric> | I totally forgot those exist. |
15:57 | < locas> | yeah |
15:57 | < locas> | that's an easy mistake to make |
15:57 | < Ced23Ric> | You may remember my odd greeble canisters. |
15:57 | < locas> | I do |
15:57 | < Ced23Ric> | They no longer satisfy my personal standard of quality. |
15:58 | < Ced23Ric> | I want to build Listening Posts. |
15:58 | < locas> | my demo company |
15:59 | < locas> | is also sadly lacking in stations |
15:59 | < locas> | I shamefully used 2x2 tiles as stations when I taught my partner how to play |
15:59 | < Ced23Ric> | I also learnt, just now, the most hilarious thing about these. |
15:59 | < locas> | SHAMEFULLY |
15:59 | < Ced23Ric> | one of them had a 6L bar with flange in black. |
15:59 | < Ced23Ric> | I just pulled it out of that station. |
15:59 | < Ced23Ric> | The black came off. |
15:59 | < Ced23Ric> | >mfw it#s a red one someone sharpie'd blac |
15:59 | < locas> | ew |
15:59 | < locas> | lol |
15:59 | < locas> | did you get sharpy ink |
16:00 | < locas> | on your other bricks? |
16:00 | < locas> | that's turrible |
16:00 | < locas> | you should sue |
16:00 | < Ced23Ric> | Now, the ink is probably 3 years dry. |
16:00 | < Ced23Ric> | The only thing this is staining is the honour of the predecessor. |
16:02 | < Ced23Ric> | Alright, all stripped. |
16:02 | < Ced23Ric> | Now, how di I into cool Listening Posts? |
16:03 | < locas> | telephones |
16:06 | < Ced23Ric> | I think I will do as I usually do when I am off to a journey. |
16:06 | < Ced23Ric> | Steal from Soren. |
16:07 | < locas> | absolutely |
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16:10 | | Ced23Bed is now known as Ceddo |
16:10 | < Ceddo> | https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7027/6696261801_a0b8d22819_o.jpg |
16:10 | < Ceddo> | That thing there. |
16:10 | < Ceddo> | Those yellow snow shoes. |
16:10 | < Ceddo> | I have 8 of them. |
16:10 | < Ceddo> | BECAUSE of that tank. |
16:10 | < locas> | I gotta get some of those snow shoes |
16:11 | < Ceddo> | I found them violently snazzy. |
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16:18 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/8doca1c4il0h46c/Station%20-%20Landing%20Beacon.png Iāve fancied these up quite a bit since, but if you need something to work with, itās not a bad start. |
16:19 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wnsi4tyfpiksvt/Station%20-%20Radar%20Tower.png and https://www.dropbox.com/s/b91cto3i27f6azs/Station%20-%20Metal%20Storage.png are also promising |
16:25 | < Ceddo> | Let me cite a great visionary of our time, Soren. |
16:25 | < Ceddo> | "STATIONS ARE 4x4 ANYTHING LARGER IS TERRAIN AND YOU NEED TO SAY WHAT'S COVER." |
16:25 | < Soren> | Well. |
16:26 | < Soren> | The metal storage is over. |
16:26 | < locas> | hahah |
16:26 | < Ceddo> | Like I give a fuck. :D |
16:26 | < mraichelson> | only if stuff outside 4x4 is tall enough to count as cover. :P |
16:26 | < Ceddo> | Thanks, Soren. :) |
16:26 | < Soren> | the other two are more or less right. |
16:26 | < Soren> | Yeah. the broad base is necessary to keep it stable. |
16:26 | < Soren> | And it looks nice. |
16:26 | < Ceddo> | You know what I like about your images? |
16:27 | < Ceddo> | They don't need to be resized when used as thumbnails. |
16:27 | < Ceddo> | I am being purposefully obnoxious today. Dunno why. |
16:28 | < Soren> | TY. I try to keep things nice and tiny. |
16:28 | < Ceddo> | That's what ... nevermind. |
16:29 | < mraichelson> | lol |
16:29 | < Soren> | Yeah, walked into that. |
16:29 | < Ceddo> | Nah. I almost did. |
16:30 | < Ceddo> | There is little point to belittle someone's (presumed) Jetta when your Veyron is in the garage, without gas, license, tires and collects dust for a long time. |
16:30 | < locas> | I don't know enough about cars to even guess what this means |
16:31 | < Soren> | Weāre talking about penis size. |
16:31 | < Ceddo> | Soren has more sex than I do. Penis size is irrelevant. |
16:31 | < locas> | okay, I knew all this |
16:31 | < locas> | I guess what I mean is |
16:31 | < locas> | what's bigger, a jetta or a veyron |
16:31 | < Soren> | Or rather, Cedās trying to goad me into posting a picture of my cock next to a ruler. |
16:31 | < locas> | ah, now it makes sense |
16:31 | < Ceddo> | A Bugatti Veyron is ... a sports car. |
16:32 | < Ceddo> | A luxury over the top, be all end all sports car. |
16:32 | < Ceddo> | It has a second key to unlock the full engine. |
16:32 | < Ceddo> | I goes almost 500 kph. |
16:32 | < Ceddo> | *It |
16:32 | < locas> | so in this metaphor, soren's dick is like an affordable mid range sedan and your dick is a douchemobile? |
16:32 | < Ceddo> | A Jetta is a car. |
16:32 | < Ceddo> | I did not dwell to long on it. |
16:32 | < locas> | fair enough |
16:33 | < mraichelson> | welcome to #mfz-nsfw! |
16:33 | < Ceddo> | Hi, you must be new here, welcome to the poop joke cave. |
16:34 | < Soren> | Hey, when nice, clean-minded people show up here, weāll be happy to accomodate them too! |
16:34 | < Soren> | ā¦for half an hour, on sundays. |
16:34 | < locas> | and they have to wear special hats |
16:34 | < Ceddo> | And ask nicely. |
16:34 | < mraichelson> | mm, hats |
16:34 | < Ceddo> | Also, announce their arrival. |
16:34 | < Ceddo> | That'd be nice. |
16:35 | < Ceddo> | Does anyone know the feeling that you have a brick but you don't have that brickĆ |
16:35 | < Ceddo> | I thought I had that brick. |
16:35 | < Ceddo> | (But didn't.) |
16:39 | < Soren> | Oh, that happens a lot. |
16:39 | < Soren> | My compensating mechanism is to sort like a motherfucker and have too many of every brick. |
16:40 | < locas> | my compensating mechanism is to spiral into despair |
16:41 | < Soren> | Well, you also have a garden. |
16:42 | < Ceddo> | I was gonna say that Soren artificially induced brick shortage to feel that. |
16:42 | < Ceddo> | y'know, to blend in with the norms. |
16:42 | < Soren> | Well, I also build larger thanmost of you guys, at least, when given my choice of scale. |
16:43 | < Ceddo> | The he is all like: "Oh wow, haha, yesterday I was totally out of neon-trans-sandgreen travis bricks with spider pattern and working LED." |
16:43 | < Ceddo> | And secretly pushes the bag under the couch. |
16:45 | < Soren> | Actually, Iāve been trying to halt new acquisitions as much as possible. |
16:45 | < Soren> | Or at least, steer towards a wider range of colors and shapes and less towards, oh shit, i ran out of half pins, better order another hundred. |
16:46 | < Ceddo> | Soren "No Halfmeasures" Roberts. |
16:46 | < Soren> | You laught, but Iāve used a hundred half pins in a single thing. |
16:46 | < Ceddo> | I believe it. |
16:46 | < locas> | half pins are one of my major bottlenecks |
16:47 | < locas> | i can see it being useful to have hundreds |
16:47 | < Soren> | Theyāre ludicrously cheap in blue. Not much less so in other colors. |
16:47 | < Soren> | Worth sinking three bucks into a bag of them. |
16:48 | < locas> | yeah, my problem with bricklink is very rarely the money and most often the time and work it takes |
16:48 | < locas> | to compile a list of the parts I want and find them at stores for good prices |
16:48 | < locas> | one day soon I'll buckle down |
16:48 | < locas> | that'll be my reward for cleaning my table |
16:49 | < Soren> | When Flak is back, you should ask him about cost-minimizer scripts. |
16:49 | < locas> | oh my |
16:49 | < locas> | that sounds super useful |
16:49 | < mraichelson> | i just wish someone would write a working wish list buying optimizer tool for os x. |
16:49 | < Soren> | mm. |
16:49 | < Soren> | You and me both. |
16:50 | < Ceddo> | Any OS, for that matter. |
16:50 | < Ceddo> | Fuck it, my stations will be 6x6. |
16:51 | < Ceddo> | Josh can eat a dick, 4x4 sucks. |
16:51 | < locas> | read as Josh can eat, suck a 4x4 dick |
16:51 | < Ceddo> | Delicious 4x4 dick. |
16:51 | < Soren> | UNSURPRISINGLY, WE HAD PRETTY MUCH THAT DISCUSSION. |
16:52 | < Ceddo> | Hahahaha. :D |
16:52 | < Ceddo> | That entertained me. |
16:53 | < Soren> | There are actually pretty decent rules-related reasons for it being that way, and in fact even narrower is better, but aesthetically, i agree completely. |
16:53 | < mraichelson> | this was a discussion about 6x6 stations, rightā¦.not about 4x4 dicks? |
16:53 | < mraichelson> | <_< |
16:53 | < mraichelson> | >_> |
16:53 | < Ceddo> | If I wanted to play Gulliver's Revenge, I'd say so. |
16:54 | < Soren> | Well, time to whipe out the old 2x8 plate and measure. |
16:54 | < Soren> | -e |
16:54 | < Ceddo> | Your dick? :D |
16:54 | < Ceddo> | "Yeah guys, totally rocking the 30 studs here ..." |
16:58 | < Soren> | I figured we were measuring girth. |
16:59 | < Soren> | But whatever tickles your pickle. |
17:11 | < Ceddo> | Ha. |
17:11 | < Ceddo> | This tower already looks better than what I had befre. |
17:11 | < Ceddo> | It's also fuck huge. |
17:11 | < Ceddo> | 3 tanks stacked. |
17:12 | < Ceddo> | But it conveys a good height. |
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17:13 | | * CalaveraJoe waves |
17:13 | < Ceddo> | Alright, that's two stations done ... |
17:13 | < Ceddo> | Heya Joe! |
17:13 | < CalaveraJoe> | Heya |
17:15 | < CalaveraJoe> | Man, I love the feet on these things https://www.flickr.com/photos/brickbert/14211658862/in/pool-438009@N25 |
17:17 | < Ceddo> | Driod body into arm with bar hole? |
17:17 | < Ceddo> | Looks nice. |
17:17 | < Ceddo> | I don't trust it, though. |
17:17 | < CalaveraJoe> | Oh? |
17:18 | < CalaveraJoe> | Don't forget the wedge under the body for the heel |
17:18 | < Ceddo> | Looks too much like a photo op foot. |
17:19 | < Soren> | Actually, itās pretty stable. |
17:19 | < Soren> | especially if you rotate the heel. |
17:21 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah. With as widely set as those legs are, too. |
17:23 | < CalaveraJoe> | My personal challenge for this week is two-fold: One - Stop trying to figure out other people's builds, because it means I have pieces of like 10-15 different ships / frames laying around. Two: Finish my first fleet |
17:23 | < CalaveraJoe> | Which I've jokingly started referring to as the Free-Colonies Seperatist Fleet |
17:27 | < Ceddo> | Two good challenges. |
17:27 | < Ceddo> | i keep myself occupied with this demo business. |
17:28 | < CalaveraJoe> | I have a folder full of pics of frames or other Lego mocs that I'm trying to figure out. |
17:29 | < CalaveraJoe> | Like the Serenity from Firefly and a Tachikoma |
17:29 | < CalaveraJoe> | Plus a handful of frames |
17:29 | < CalaveraJoe> | But I also know that if I don't brick up at least a pair of fleets and a pair of frame companies, I'm just not gonna get to play (lazy friends are lazy) |
17:30 | < Ceddo> | Also, this is my current Zen building song: http://www.listenonrepeat.com/watch/?v=gqSlO61_wlg |
17:31 | < CalaveraJoe> | A trick I'm hoping for with the first fleet is to not just re-use the separator mount from the first shit |
17:31 | < CalaveraJoe> | ship |
17:31 | < locas> | taking my partner to a meeting and then getting ready for game night |
17:32 | < locas> | o/ |
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17:32 | < CalaveraJoe> | I love the way it looks, but I want the ships to not look like I just copy/pasted that bit of brick up |
17:39 | < CalaveraJoe> | Also, I'm finding the size restrictions to be an amusing challenge (mostly because of the core pieces I'm using) |
17:40 | < Ceddo> | For the ships? |
17:40 | < Ceddo> | They are a burden. |
17:40 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah |
17:40 | < Ceddo> | A necessary one. |
17:40 | < Ceddo> | But still. |
17:40 | < CalaveraJoe> | I don't find them burdensome, just challenging |
17:41 | < Ceddo> | Alright, three stations done... |
17:41 | < Ceddo> | I am running out of things. |
17:41 | < Ceddo> | like, bricks, mostly. |
17:41 | < CalaveraJoe> | But again, I picked several elements that are fairly large to begin with |
17:41 | < CalaveraJoe> | Like, the one ship I put up started with a 4 x 16 wedge |
17:42 | < Ceddo> | At work, I started collecting Micro GARC ships that I looked. |
17:42 | < Ceddo> | *liked |
17:42 | < CalaveraJoe> | Oh man, I just can't let myself even look at the micro GARC stuff, lol |
17:42 | < Ceddo> | I know. |
17:42 | < Ceddo> | So dangerous. |
17:43 | < CalaveraJoe> | https://www.flickr.com/photos/legoztourist328/13930612314/in/pool-2142724@N23 |
17:44 | < CalaveraJoe> | https://www.flickr.com/photos/wintermute2600/13574567673/ |
17:44 | < CalaveraJoe> | brb |
17:45 | | * mraichelson rushes to close tabs before he spends the afternoon down a micro-build rabbit hole |
18:00 | < CalaveraJoe> | Back |
18:00 | < CalaveraJoe> | And yeah |
18:00 | < CalaveraJoe> | Some of the micro garc stuff is /amazing/ |
18:00 | < CalaveraJoe> | And I want to build all the things |
18:01 | < Ceddo> | It's inspirational. |
18:01 | < Ceddo> | For shapes. |
18:10 | < Ceddo> | mhmm. |
18:10 | < CalaveraJoe> | ? |
18:11 | < Ceddo> | I wonder if something at elaborate as "a pile of crates" is good enough for a station. |
18:11 | < Ceddo> | You can't get much lazier than that. |
18:12 | < CalaveraJoe> | lol |
18:12 | < CalaveraJoe> | "Good enough" is totally relevant |
18:12 | < Ceddo> | A pile of crates it is! |
18:12 | < CalaveraJoe> | Fill em with 'peaches' |
18:12 | < CalaveraJoe> | *sagenod* |
18:13 | < Ceddo> | Oh, yeah, sure. Peaches. |
18:13 | < Ceddo> | :D |
18:13 | < CalaveraJoe> | There, now it's in-universe and everything |
18:13 | < Ceddo> | Perfecty. |
18:15 | < Ceddo> | Bitches don't even know about muh peaches. |
18:15 | < CalaveraJoe> | lol |
18:15 | < Ceddo> | Okay, very well then. |
18:16 | < Ceddo> | I have: 1x Commtower, 1x weather monitoring rig, 1x double fuel tank, 1x pile of crates, 1x cargo module with the same crates, but horizontal. |
18:16 | < Ceddo> | Good enough / 10. |
18:42 | < CalaveraJoe> | Okay, time to go do stuff in meatspace |
18:42 | < CalaveraJoe> | Later folks! |
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19:23 | < Ceddo> | Soren? |
19:23 | < Ceddo> | I need you. |
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20:16 | < Mantisking> | Hello. |
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20:38 | < Mantisking> | I really hate it when people don't list file pathways for technical drawings they've "found". |
20:56 | < locas> | I got |
20:56 | < locas> | a new d |
20:56 | < mraichelson> | o_O |
20:56 | < locas> | (and two new es and an a and a b and a g) |
20:56 | | * locas is going to milk this joke forever |
20:57 | < Ceddo> | Back! |
20:57 | < Ceddo> | http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1400522689277.png |
20:57 | < mraichelson> | deeabgā¦dee bag? |
20:57 | < Ceddo> | Haha, Brickarms. |
20:58 | < mraichelson> | i have a guy with two of those chainguns for arms :) |
20:58 | < Ceddo> | I think I'll try something later for a vert tank. |
21:02 | < locas> | I don't like brickarms but that knife isn't bad for 7 |
21:02 | < locas> | 7p* |
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21:10 | < Ceddo> | Meh. |
21:10 | < locas> | meh |
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21:49 | < Ceddo> | SOREN. |
21:49 | < Ceddo> | I CANNOT, WILL NOT, LIVE WITHOUT NEUTRINOS. |
21:49 | < Ceddo> | HELP ME. ;_; |
22:18 | < Ceddo> | I will force this bitch to work. |
22:18 | < Ceddo> | Somehow. |
22:42 | < Ceddo> | I think I need to give up. |
22:42 | < Ceddo> | Not that I want to. |
22:42 | < Ceddo> | But the Neutrino mod has no support for any of the other mods. |
22:42 | < Ceddo> | I managed to integrate it into Uozmoz Sector. |
22:42 | < Ceddo> | But there is, obviously, no AI / planet / anything for that faction. |
22:43 | < Ceddo> | I guess I need to dig DEEPER. |
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