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< DeathZero>
anyone awake in here?
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< afny>
gjfdsjgjfdgj
16:40
< DeathZero>
Yo
16:40
< DeathZero>
sup afny
17:00
< afny>
heyh
17:00
< afny>
nothing much
17:00
< afny>
very tired and very caffeinated
17:01
< afny>
running builds against bots because battlenet is down
17:10
< DeathZero>
fun.
17:11
< afny>
NOT PARTICULARLY
17:11
< afny>
I have a mineral/gas imbalance at like 6 minutes
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< afny>
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT
17:17
< huhwhozat>
hi y'all
17:18
< DeathZero>
o_O lol. me either
17:18
< DeathZero>
sup man
17:18
< afny>
I am GOING TO THE STORE NOW
17:19
< afny>
hello huhwhozat
17:19
< afny>
and goodbye.
17:19
< huhwhozat>
um ok den :P
17:19
< DeathZero>
awww
17:19
< DeathZero>
laters
17:19
< DeathZero>
:P
17:44
< DeathZero>
yo whozat
17:45
< DeathZero>
found somebody else here in Indiana thats on the forums
17:45
< huhwhozat>
oh cool
17:45
< huhwhozat>
who/where are they?
17:46
< DeathZero>
Wiking, lives down around mitchell
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< DeathZero>
said he'd be interested in coming up to Indy sometime to play.
17:46
< huhwhozat>
neat
17:47
< huhwhozat>
we could actually play a game with 3 players then
17:47
< huhwhozat>
has he got a company set up?
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< DeathZero>
theres also the other guy I've talked to, Majincob, he lives probly 15-20 min from me
17:48
< DeathZero>
he's working on it, said he should have the parts he needs by the end of the month.
17:48
< huhwhozat>
sweet
17:48
< huhwhozat>
Majincob?
17:48
< DeathZero>
Yea, he's posted on the forums under that name
17:48
< DeathZero>
been a while though
17:48
< huhwhozat>
haven't seen him at all, then again I haven't been on the forum in a while
17:49
< huhwhozat>
just flickr :P
17:49
< DeathZero>
yea, forum's aren't as active as they once were
17:49
< DeathZero>
lol, I don't check flickr.
17:49
< DeathZero>
if it's not on the fb page or the forums I don't see it.
17:49
< afny>
flikr is pretty active
17:49
< afny>
some good stuff
17:49
< afny>
the Forge got really flooded for a while, and then stagnant when new users couldn't register for like almost a month
17:50
< DeathZero>
if people are posting to flickr they should be posting to the forums. :P
17:50
< afny>
it's too much work
17:50
< afny>
for one thing
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< afny>
and not really worth it
17:50
< afny>
no one reads the forums
17:51
< DeathZero>
meh, too much work for me to go to flickr.
17:51
< afny>
with the exception of you (apparently)
17:51
< afny>
everyone I know that reads the Forge also reads flikr
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< afny>
and you don't have to do any post formating
17:51
< afny>
+t
17:51
< afny>
I sometimes still post on the forge, but usually only if I have a good individual shot, or if it's a frame I want to share a breakdown for
17:52
< DeathZero>
only time I go on flickr is to upload something or cause I'm wanting a bigger picture of something somebody posted on forums.
17:52
< afny>
oh shit I somehow entered
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< afny>
magnifying glass mode
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< afny>
and I do not know how to get out
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< DeathZero>
lmao.
17:52
< afny>
I don't even know
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< afny>
these, for instance
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< afny>
were not on the forum
17:55
< afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/killykaiju/8087152931/in/pool-438009@N25
17:55
< afny>
and deepcope doesn't post there
17:55
< afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/82225126@N06/8055147403/in/pool-438009@N25
17:55
< DeathZero>
o_O doesn't look like I'm missing a whole lot.
17:56
< DeathZero>
ok that White Glint is kinda cool
17:56
< afny>
I love those reverse bipeds
17:56
< afny>
maybe they don't have universal appeal
17:56
< afny>
but I can't get over them
17:56
< DeathZero>
I've never been a fan of chicken walkers.
17:56
< afny>
all of DeepCope's stuff is great
17:56
< afny>
you should go through his photostream
17:56
< afny>
or hers
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< afny>
I do not know them
17:58
< DeathZero>
lol. theres some need stuff in DC's photostream.
17:58
< DeathZero>
neat...not need.
17:58
< afny>
this is like my favorite thing ever: lol. theres some need stuff in DC's photostream.
17:58
< afny>
[13:58] <DeathZero> n
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< afny>
er
17:58
< afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/82225126@N06/7953061628/in/photostream
17:59
< afny>
I stole that window chest for a few different things
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< afny>
it's so slick
17:59
< DeathZero>
:P
18:00
< afny>
I used it on
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< afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/8110094660/in/photostream
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< afny>
those big ass chubs in the back
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< DeathZero>
cool
18:33
< DeathZero>
looks to me like most of the stuff in the flickr does get posted to the forums or the fb page. there were only a couple things in there I hadn't seen.
18:37
< afny>
it's possible that I just don't read the Forge
18:37
< afny>
also, I didn't even know there was a facebook page
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< DeathZero>
o_o lmao
18:38
< DeathZero>
http://www.facebook.com/groups/252503984838645/
18:39
< DeathZero>
thats how I found the forums was through the fb group
18:39
< afny>
I don't use fb
18:39
< afny>
I found them through the kickstarter I think?
18:39
< DeathZero>
aww, everyone should use fb.
18:39
< afny>
it's pretty horrible
18:40
< huhwhozat>
ew, fb
18:40
< afny>
^
18:40
< DeathZero>
it's too convenient for keeping in touch with people
18:40
< afny>
literally
18:43
< afny>
if I had a social media presence
18:43
< afny>
it'd be on g+
18:43
< afny>
while google's omnipresence makes me uneasy
18:43
< afny>
they at least take the time to assuage my concerns
18:43
< afny>
facebook, on the other hand
18:43
< afny>
says, "they trust me. Idiots."
18:44
< huhwhozat>
...just has a disgusting interface?
18:44
< afny>
also that!
18:44
< huhwhozat>
and MOA
18:44
< DeathZero>
meh, I have no problems with fb.
18:44
< DeathZero>
g+ is shit in my opinion.
18:44
< afny>
why?
18:44
< DeathZero>
I don't like it.
18:45
< DeathZero>
it's doing the same thing as fb, on a smaller scale.
18:45
< afny>
what do you mean smaller scale
18:45
< DeathZero>
nobody I care to maintain contact with is on g+
18:45
< afny>
i'd say it's scope is much wider
18:45
< afny>
it's got email integration
18:45
< afny>
for one thing
18:45
< DeathZero>
but less people use it.
18:45
< DeathZero>
thats what I mean by smaller scale.
18:45
< afny>
I suppose
18:45
< huhwhozat>
for me, this is a good thing :P
18:46
< afny>
same
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< DeathZero>
I prefer to be where I can maintain contact with my friends.
18:46
< afny>
I deleted my facebook, and I can honestly say it's only inconvenienced me SLIGHTLY
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< afny>
as in like, three people are more difficult to contact
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< afny>
out of my 100+ friends
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< afny>
that I literally didn'
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< afny>
t need to read about
18:46
< DeathZero>
well I don't have a cell phone, so without facebook I have no contact with anyone.
18:46
< huhwhozat>
which, g+ has nice circles for
18:47
< huhwhozat>
oh, well that's difficult
18:47
< afny>
that's understandable, yeah
18:47
< afny>
but it's no reason to prefer facebook
18:47
< afny>
it's just a reason to USE facebook :P
18:47
< huhwhozat>
yeah, just because fb has more people you know, is no merit for fb
18:48
< afny>
I mean, it is
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< afny>
but it's not a reason to be a loyal consumer
18:48
< DeathZero>
also, everything loads facebook, I've not seen any ads saying this device can run g+
18:48
< afny>
:\
18:48
< afny>
everything can run g+
18:48
< huhwhozat>
yeah, it's 'cos they don't *need* anything special :P
18:49
< afny>
yep, it's just a website
18:49
< afny>
if anything that's just a flaw in their advertising
18:49
< huhwhozat>
which actually has layouts for smartphones
18:49
< afny>
but I think they're playing the long game
18:49
< huhwhozat>
after all this touting g_, I should probably actually get an account
18:50
< afny>
heh
18:50
< DeathZero>
feck that. I still think its gay.
18:50
< huhwhozat>
I don't use social media tho
18:50
< afny>
you shouldn't use gay as a pejorative, yo
18:50
< afny>
and yeah, same here
18:50
< DeathZero>
:P gay is my favorite pejorative.
18:50
< afny>
I have an account, originally made it just to use their hangout functionality
18:50
< afny>
with a friend to play torchlight
18:50
< huhwhozat>
lol
18:50
< afny>
it's a bad pejorative
18:51
< afny>
it uses less bandwidth than skype
18:51
< huhwhozat>
whatabout steam?
18:51
< afny>
but for some reason tunngle fucked up my connectivty with my dns
18:51
< afny>
steam's voice chat?
18:51
< afny>
the codec is really bad
18:51
< huhwhozat>
it uses skype codec....
18:51
< DeathZero>
I tried to use steam once...I quit after 5 minutes.
18:51
< afny>
really? it's been a long time since I've used steam voice chat I guess
18:51
< afny>
but I assume it's still bandwidth intensive
18:52
< huhwhozat>
maybe, yeah
18:52
< huhwhozat>
I'm on a connection that doesn't care about bandwidth for the most part :P
18:52
< DeathZero>
same here.
18:54
< afny>
well, I also just don't like skype
18:54
< afny>
my connection is okay
18:54
< afny>
it's just kind of a shitty program
18:54
< afny>
always turning down my volume
18:54 * afny shakes fist
18:55
< DeathZero>
It's trying to protect your ears.
18:55
< DeathZero>
>_>
18:55
< afny>
nah, it turns down the volume of
18:55
< afny>
OTHER PROGRAMS
18:55
< DeathZero>
skype knows what's best.
18:56
< huhwhozat>
yeah, I don't care much for skype either
18:56
< afny>
and it does it dynamically
18:56
< afny>
it does not!
18:56
< DeathZero>
lol.
18:56
< afny>
it's STUPID.
18:56
< huhwhozat>
the thing I hate most is it's refusal to close when I tell it to
18:56
< afny>
oh god, yeah
18:56
< DeathZero>
XD
18:56
< afny>
and it has like, two other processes that run
18:56
< huhwhozat>
you *always* have to close it twice
18:56
< huhwhozat>
yeah
18:56
< afny>
even after you shut it
18:56
< DeathZero>
again, it knows whats best for you. lmao.
18:56
< huhwhozat>
except not
18:56
< afny>
it's an unwelcome house guest
18:57
< afny>
that tries to do my laundry
18:57
< afny>
and shrinks all my clothes
18:57
< afny>
it's a guy that wants to give me a ride to my job
18:57
< afny>
but instead takes me to his cousins house to do cocaine
18:57
< DeathZero>
^most laughs I've had all day.
18:57
< huhwhozat>
bwaha
18:57
< afny>
it thinks it knows what's best
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< afny>
BUT IT ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT/.
18:58
< DeathZero>
but it loves you and doesn't wantyou to leave it
18:58
< DeathZero>
thats why it won't close when you tell it.
18:58
< huhwhozat>
ugh
18:58
< DeathZero>
and it turns down your volume, its like "HEY! LISTEN!"
18:58
< DeathZero>
<_<
18:58
< afny>
but it won't let me press up C
18:58
< huhwhozat>
oh gawd, skype == navi
18:58
< afny>
and when it finally does
18:58
< afny>
it equips the deku shield
18:59
< DeathZero>
XD
18:59
< huhwhozat>
:P
18:59
< afny>
and I need the mirror shield
18:59
< afny>
also, that ring sound
18:59
< afny>
it could not be more annoying
18:59
< DeathZero>
totally navi.
18:59
< afny>
you say that like it's a good thing
18:59
< afny>
EVERYONE HATES NAVI
18:59
< DeathZero>
myself included.
19:00
< DeathZero>
kill it with fire.
19:00
< afny>
Majora's Mask handled fairies right
19:00
< afny>
it was just generally a better game
19:00
< DeathZero>
....hates the time travel mechanic.
19:00
< DeathZero>
the masks were awesome.
19:00
< afny>
but it's done so well
19:00
< afny>
it's not grindy
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< afny>
like you think it'd be
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< afny>
it's very elegant
19:01 * huhwhozat didn't play, unfortunately
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< afny>
you should
19:01
< huhwhozat>
I mean to
19:01
< afny>
have you played any zelda?
19:01
< DeathZero>
....bullcrap. having to go and redo quests every time I reset the timeline
19:01
< afny>
you do not
19:01
< huhwhozat>
yeah, link to the past and ocarina of time
19:01
< DeathZero>
felt like grinding to me.
19:01
< afny>
oh, wow
19:01
< afny>
yeah you need to play it
19:01
< afny>
you weren't doing it right :P
19:01
< afny>
you don't need to redo most of them
19:02
< DeathZero>
I was following the nintendo guide for that crap.
19:02
< afny>
:|
19:02
< afny>
anyway, Windwaker is my favorite zelda game, but
19:02
< afny>
Majora's Mask is probably the best
19:02
< afny>
of the 3d ones
19:02
< DeathZero>
Aside from Navi, OoT is one of my favs
19:02
< DeathZero>
LttP is my all time fav though.
19:03
< afny>
I feel like Windwaker made me feel what Zelda 1 and Windwaker did
19:03
< afny>
but tenfold
19:03
< afny>
the sense of adventure in that game just punches you in the gut
19:03
< DeathZero>
either LttP or the original LoZ....I replay em both often enough.
19:03
< afny>
they're both incredible
19:03
< huhwhozat>
afny: read that staement again
19:03
< DeathZero>
I couldn't get past the graphics in WW and Phantom Hourglass.
19:03
< huhwhozat>
"I feel like Windwaker made me feel what Zelda 1 and Windwaker did"
19:03
< afny>
er
19:03
< afny>
zelda 1 and lttp
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< afny>
***
19:04
< huhwhozat>
:P
19:04
< DeathZero>
lol I noticed that too. Wasn't quite sure what to make of it
19:04
< afny>
Also, what?! The graphics in windwaker were revolutionary
19:04
< DeathZero>
I hates cell shaded graphics.
19:04
< afny>
they hold up better than the graphics in any gamecube game
19:04
< afny>
why??
19:04
< afny>
they're so readable
19:04
< DeathZero>
too kiddy looking to me.
19:04
< afny>
:\
19:04
< afny>
but you're okay with 16 bit?
19:04
< afny>
that logic doesn't make any sense to me
19:05
< afny>
the aesthetics of the NES zelda really shine through those cel shaded graphics
19:05
< afny>
FAR more so than, say, Twilight Princess
19:05
< DeathZero>
I thought the twilight princess graphics portrayed the Zelda universe the best.
19:06
< DeathZero>
I like the more realistic approach with the 3d Zelda games.
19:06
< afny>
they weren't bad or anything, but I don't think "too kiddy" is a valid dismissal of Windwaker
19:06
< huhwhozat>
coincidentally, I was just listening to OoT music before this conversation started
19:06
< afny>
neither one is realistic
19:06
< afny>
Twilight Princess has like, pixel aliens
19:07
< afny>
it's the same argument I'd have with a preference for Mechwarrior over Gundam
19:07
< afny>
one appears, ON THE SURFACE, to be more "realistic"
19:07
< afny>
but both can be appreciated for their aesthetics, and neither one is ACTUALLY realistic
19:07
< afny>
one is just grittier, and more brown/.
19:07
< huhwhozat>
heh
19:07
< DeathZero>
guess so.
19:08
< afny>
I also just think Windwaker was a better game
19:08
< huhwhozat>
the battletech locomotion is certainly more believable to me :P
19:08
< DeathZero>
08th MS team ftw. >_>
19:08
< afny>
"come on baby"
19:08
< afny>
"do the locomotion"
19:08
< huhwhozat>
>.>
19:08
< DeathZero>
XD
19:09
< huhwhozat>
I couldn't think of a good word for 'not flying'
19:09
< DeathZero>
was wondering where you were going with that "come on baby"
19:09
< huhwhozat>
:P
19:09
< afny>
I was going to
19:09
< afny>
the locomotion
19:09
< DeathZero>
I figured that out.
19:09
< DeathZero>
and laughed, thank you for that.
19:09 * afny does the locomotion
19:10 * huhwhozat has his point completely derailed
19:10
< afny>
like, I get that battletech mechs are more "believable" by today's standards
19:10
< afny>
but I don't really think that adds (or subtracts) from the story, or the aesthetics of the setting
19:10
< huhwhozat>
certainly
19:10
< afny>
Gundam might have more unbelievable technology, but it doesn't break suspension of disbelief and manages to tell an interesting story WITH brightly colored flying robots
19:11
< afny>
battletech, at times, does the same within the confines of it's own setting
19:11
< afny>
neither one is in the wrong
19:11
< huhwhozat>
the settings are both well constructed ('cept for the splat material in BT)
19:11
< afny>
and I feel the same way about Windwaker
19:11
< afny>
the aesthetics serve the story well
19:11
< afny>
(and the gameplay, more importantly)
19:11
< afny>
sorry, I can't get off that topic
19:11
< afny>
it's like my favorite game ever
19:11
< DeathZero>
one of the attractions to Gundam for me was how in depth they went. The creators went so far as to come up with the particle composition as to how the tech is possible.
19:11
< huhwhozat>
the thing is though, if you don't dig the aesthetic, you don't enjoy the game
19:12
< afny>
I guess?
19:12
< huhwhozat>
no matter how cohesive, good it is
19:12
< afny>
that's never been a problem for me, though
19:12
< afny>
like, I've never stopped BECAUSE of x aesthetic
19:12
< DeathZero>
yea, if I start playing/watching something and the visual style bothers me, I can't get past that.
19:12
< huhwhozat>
it does detract from the experience
19:12
< afny>
it's the content of a story (or bad gameplay) that put me off
19:13
< afny>
or BAD graphics
19:13
< huhwhozat>
heh
19:13
< afny>
but bad graphics and bad aesthetics are two different things
19:13
< huhwhozat>
true
19:13
< DeathZero>
they both go in the same category for me.
19:13
< huhwhozat>
cough (X series) cough
19:13
< afny>
well they shouldn't!
19:13
< afny>
bad graphics are graphics that do not serve the game well
19:13
< afny>
er
19:13
< afny>
bad AESTHETICS*
19:13
< afny>
bad graphics are just low resolution
19:14
< afny>
like quake, or nes zelda, or dark forces or something
19:14
< huhwhozat>
enh, not really
19:14
< afny>
sure, ask any modern gamer
19:14
< afny>
and they'll tell you those games have bad graphics
19:14
< afny>
they won't know what aesthetics are
19:14
< huhwhozat>
I don't take the same opinion as modern gamers, generally
19:14
< afny>
well obviously
19:14
< afny>
you also hate skype
19:14
< DeathZero>
in that case then graphics have never bothered me
19:14
< afny>
you're COOL.
19:14
< huhwhozat>
haha
19:15
< DeathZero>
its always the visual style that drives me away
19:15
< huhwhozat>
see *bad* graphics are gfx with problems, even for the era
19:15
< afny>
yeah, that's what I think too
19:15
< afny>
and graphics that don't serve the game well, or are glitchy
19:15
< afny>
say
19:15
< afny>
TUROK
19:15
< huhwhozat>
no tplayed
19:15
< afny>
yeah
19:15
< afny>
that's a valid reason for being
19:15
< huhwhozat>
let's see, trying to think of a good eg
19:15
< afny>
NOPE
19:16
< huhwhozat>
besides the X- series
19:16
< afny>
turok dude
19:16
< afny>
TUROK
19:16
< huhwhozat>
sorry, not played :/
19:16
< afny>
oh
19:16
< afny>
well it's awful/.
19:16
< huhwhozat>
I can tell :P
19:17
< DeathZero>
yea, it was totally awful.
19:17
< afny>
I can think of way more games with bad aesthetics
19:17
< afny>
than I can games with bad graphics
19:17
< huhwhozat>
same
19:17
< huhwhozat>
except for early pc games
19:17
< afny>
yeah, but they tended to make up for it
19:17
< afny>
Deus Ex, for example
19:17
< huhwhozat>
a lot of apogee stuf - great gameplay, crappy gfx
19:18
< huhwhozat>
'cept for keen
19:18
< huhwhozat>
and biomenace
19:18
< afny>
I guess Deus Ex isn't really early by those standards :P
19:18
< huhwhozat>
nope
19:18
< afny>
more like Cambrian
19:18
< huhwhozat>
and yeah, deus ex had .... isues
19:18
< huhwhozat>
*issues
19:18
< afny>
but it was pretty groundbreaking
19:18
< huhwhozat>
but the gameplay was tight
19:18
< afny>
and worthy despite it's flaws
19:18
< afny>
er, its*
19:18
< huhwhozat>
sure
19:19
< afny>
JC
19:19
< DeathZero>
never was a big pc gamer.
19:19
< afny>
...JC
19:19
< afny>
...A BOMB.
19:19
< afny>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1qKzIsisU
19:20
< huhwhozat>
pff
19:20
< afny>
A BOMB.
19:21
< DeathZero>
have I have that 46 seconds back now? o_o
19:21
< DeathZero>
....ack
19:21
< DeathZero>
can I have^
19:22
< afny>
No.
19:23
< DeathZero>
aww.
19:24
< DeathZero>
that was horrible, the guy just stood there, didn't even walk up to the bomb.
19:24
< afny>
Jc.
19:24
< afny>
Jc a bomb.
19:24
< afny>
that's basically Deus Ex in a nutshell
19:24
< afny>
except you can NOT find the bomb
19:25
< afny>
there's probably also an option to like
19:25
< afny>
cut the helicopter in half with a katana
19:25
< afny>
it's a weird game.
19:25
< DeathZero>
o_O
19:25
< DeathZero>
lol.
19:29
< afny>
welp, now I started listening to Windwaker songs
19:29
< afny>
overwhelmed with nostalgia
19:29
< afny>
that wasn't even that long ago
19:30
< DeathZero>
I'm watching Gundam >_>
19:30
< afny>
:O What Gundam
19:30
< afny>
I need to get back into Turn A
19:30
< afny>
now that I have harddrive space
19:30
< DeathZero>
I'm watching 00 for the first time.
19:30
< DeathZero>
I'm not really digging the religious aspect of this one.
19:30
< huhwhozat>
Setsuna
19:30
< huhwhozat>
Setsuna F. Seiei
19:31
< huhwhozat>
I got really tired of hearing that
19:31
< DeathZero>
lol.
19:31
< DeathZero>
This is reminding me a lot of Gundam Wing.
19:31
< afny>
I haven't seen any of 00
19:31
< afny>
some of the suits look sweet, though
19:31
< afny>
as I mentioned before, not a fan of Wing :p\
19:31
< DeathZero>
not a fan of wing either.
19:32
< afny>
all the oz suits are sweet, though
19:32
< afny>
some of my absolute favorites
19:32
< DeathZero>
It got me into Gundam, but then I found the Universal Century series.
19:32
< afny>
I don't think Wing is TERRIBLE
19:32
< afny>
I just think it didn't go far enough
19:32
< afny>
it didn't get its hands dirty
19:33
< DeathZero>
I didn't think the storyline was very good.
19:33
< DeathZero>
That...and I haaate...Relena.
19:33
< DeathZero>
kill that bitch.
19:33
< DeathZero>
kill her dead.
19:34
< DeathZero>
need more 08th ms team.
19:34
< afny>
oh shit this is the best song
19:35
< afny>
it's this song
19:35
< afny>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRv8gnBMiWM
19:35
< afny>
at the intro
19:35
< afny>
this is a great video regardless
19:35
< afny>
anyway
19:35
< afny>
I actually kind of like Endless Waltz :|
19:36
< DeathZero>
The gundams themselves look awesome.
19:36
< afny>
only the Katoki versions
19:37
< DeathZero>
The look of everything in Wing was awesome. The annoying characters and what I saw as the lack of a good storyline drove me away from it.
19:38
< afny>
for instance
19:38
< afny>
the Katoki deathscythe
19:38
< afny>
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/katoki/xxxg-01d.jpg
19:38
< DeathZero>
Yea, seen those before.
19:39
< DeathZero>
definitely better looking.
19:39
< afny>
he did all the oz suits, which they left in
19:39
< DeathZero>
I still hate Sandrock.
19:40
< afny>
are you kidding me
19:40
< afny>
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/katoki/xxxg-01sr.jpg
19:40
< DeathZero>
still looks *insert my favorite pejorative* to me
19:40
< afny>
:P
19:40
< DeathZero>
Deathscythe ftw.
19:41
< DeathZero>
heck, I like em all, cept Sandrock, just always hated that one.
19:41
< afny>
to be honest that series would've been much better served if Trowa and Quatre just got a room
19:42
< DeathZero>
or if they would have written them out <_<
19:42
< afny>
also, Quatre being white was just weird
19:42
< afny>
Trowa was an interesting concept
19:42
< afny>
they just wrote him like cardboard, sadly
19:43
< afny>
kind of a problem with most Wing characters I guess :\
19:43
< afny>
interesting starting points, no development
19:43
< DeathZero>
I had no interest in that character from the get go.
19:44
< DeathZero>
I guess the only one with a personality I could really get behind was Duo.
19:44
< DeathZero>
Heero was too suicidal, but they did the raised to be a soldier concept well with him.
19:45
< afny>
I think Trowa's origin story is the most interesting
19:45
< DeathZero>
Wufei...he was ok, just not my cup of tea with his beating himself up all the time.
19:45
< DeathZero>
trowa did have an interesting story.
19:45
< afny>
basically the opposite of Heero
19:45
< afny>
a moral realist
19:45
< afny>
and kind of an opportunist
19:46
< afny>
but he literally doesn't develop at all
19:46
< DeathZero>
I liked all Duo's background.
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