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| 00:20 | < neoaez> | And I'm back! Did you miss my awesome idling skills? |
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| 00:21 | <~McMartin> | We're as good at it as you! |
| 00:22 | < neoaez> | Well darn. |
| 00:22 | < neoaez> | I thought I was special. |
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| 02:52 | < afny> | Yo |
| 02:52 | <@Soren> | yo. |
| 02:53 | <@randolph> | hey soren, long time |
| 02:53 | <@Soren> | yeah, just a bit. |
| 03:59 | < addking> | Heya |
| 04:02 | < afny> | o/ |
| 04:29 | < addking> | @Soren: what is the guy in the bottom left here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/7340363368/in/photostream & in this one: http://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/projects/58255/posts/188012/image-98130-full.jpg?133 1406029 called? |
| 04:29 | < addking> | ah, that didn't link : http://www.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/7340363368/in/photostream |
| 04:30 | < addking> | are those just takes on Joshua's fuchikoma swarmer? |
| 04:31 | < addking> | and if you don't mind sharing, how the hell is that disc/tube attached on the Moon Fang one? |
| 04:32 | <@Soren> | hang on. |
| 04:33 | <@Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/y3hguiiz2tov5tm/Europoid.png Stare at the planet I was painting while I unknot your question. |
| 04:34 | < addking> | looks vaguely like Australia in the bottom left, heavy atmospheric clouds? |
| 04:34 | <@Soren> | no, ice. |
| 04:34 | <@Soren> | and yeah, Reverse Australia. |
| 04:35 | <@Soren> | Where the beer is weak as piss and nothing is poisonous. |
| 04:35 | <~McMartin> | In Australia, being weak beer gets you exiled to the wider world |
| 04:36 | <@Soren> | precisely. |
| 04:36 | <~McMartin> | Here in America we do that to beer that isn't at least 70% hops by weight |
| 04:37 | < addking> | At least microbrews kicked off. I don't recall fondly the days of drinking Bud and Coors. |
| 04:38 | <~McMartin> | http://mediacdn.snorgcontent.com/media/catalog/product/p/e/petercottonale_fullpi c.jpg |
| 04:38 | < addking> | unless they are free, and there's nothing else. |
| 04:38 | <~McMartin> | Then you drink iced tea, sir |
| 04:38 | < addking> | I'm a heretic, don't like tea. =( |
| 04:39 | <~McMartin> | So you are |
| 04:39 | < addking> | or coffee for that matter. |
| 04:40 | <~McMartin> | Coffee destroys me |
| 04:40 | <~McMartin> | Seriously, I'll lose three systems if I drink it |
| 04:40 | <~McMartin> | Mr. Chibs is my hard counter |
| 04:42 | < afny> | I must sleep |
| 04:42 | < afny> | o7 |
| 04:42 | < addking> | night afny |
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| 04:43 | < addking> | Chibs is a counter? how so? |
| 04:43 | <~McMartin> | He has a coffeemug sometimes, I'm being silly |
| 04:44 | < addking> | right-o, i recall that from some of the forum pics. |
| 04:44 | < addking> | just didn't make that connection |
| 04:47 | <@randolph> | I need to do something with Mr. Chibs again |
| 04:47 | <@randolph> | But GW2 goes live tonight |
| 04:48 | < addking> | you played it at all yet? |
| 04:49 | < addking> | oh and randolph, i tried Rengar again, I think I dont' care for him because it feels like all I can do is auto attack most of the time. and the bolo range is tiny. |
| 04:52 | <@randolph> | gotcha |
| 04:52 | <@randolph> | I haven't tried him yet, but I played diana a couple of times |
| 04:52 | <@randolph> | She feels like a stronger Akali |
| 04:52 | <@randolph> | With a worse 1-5 |
| 04:53 | < addking> | yeah Diana I enjoy, and i wasn't a big Akali player. |
| 04:53 | < addking> | her farming is crazy good after a few levels |
| 04:54 | <@randolph> | Yeah |
| 04:54 | <@randolph> | Laning against Malzahar was no fun though |
| 04:55 | < addking> | hmm, i would have thought that'd favor you soon as you can Q the back wave down. |
| 04:56 | <@randolph> | not at level 1, and he just harassed the shit out of me |
| 04:56 | <@randolph> | But I picked a fight at 5 mid-creepwave and caused him to explode when I dinged |
| 04:57 | < addking> | yeah and her E will pull him out of ulti on another target. |
| 04:57 | < addking> | her ulti refresh is sick for jungling buffs |
| 05:04 | < addking> | can't seem to decouple ice planet with orange chainsaws in my mind. ;) |
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| 07:06 | < addking> | how goes your planet Soren? |
| 07:13 | <@Soren> | leaving it for now. |
| 07:13 | <@Soren> | My attempts to add in subsurface algae have come out looking... buttful. |
| 07:15 | < addking> | ouch |
| 07:16 | < addking> | do you have a moment for my poorly worded query, or shall i catch you another time? |
| 07:24 | <@Soren> | hit me, I'll see if I can answer it. |
| 07:24 | < addking> | Moon Fang Tribe - What is the bottom left little guy called? 2nd question: how is the canister + 2x2 round tile mounted? |
| 07:25 | < addking> | incase you're not logged in: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/7340363368/in/photostream |
| 07:25 | < addking> | I've see you do a few variations of that style frame, just curious what ya call it. |
| 07:28 | <@Soren> | Well, it's a heavily modified version of a guy Joshua made a long time ago. |
| 07:28 | <@Soren> | it look Fuchikomoid, so we just call it a Fuchikoma. |
| 07:31 | <@Soren> | and the bits you mention are mounted separately - the cylinder on this: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4081b and the 2x2 on a combination of this: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=2555 and this: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=44301 . |
| 07:32 | < neoaez> | Soren: thanks for passing on the hi-res system icons. They really made a difference in the cards I put together. |
| 07:32 | <@Soren> | I'm planning to replace that little guy, either with another Super Strider or another Slammer. |
| 07:32 | <@Soren> | yw. |
| 07:32 | <@Soren> | They're there to be used. |
| 07:34 | < addking> | Thank you. I figured on the name, based on Joshua's pages. |
| 07:35 | < addking> | Ah the cylinder is side mounted then, okay. I couldn't make that out in the pic. |
| 07:35 | < addking> | the slammer is beast btw. did you get a few games in and find the little guy not as useful? |
| 07:36 | <@Soren> | nah, I haven't had a chance to play with this squad yet. |
| 07:37 | <@Soren> | I'm playing with redundant squads that always have two or three of each unit type. |
| 07:38 | <@Soren> | if you're redundant enough, I figure it's the same as having heavy defenses. |
| 07:40 | < addking> | that's gonna cost you in asset value if you field too many, but i suppose even at 5 frames, that's 3 & 2 of each type. |
| 07:41 | <@Soren> | yeah |
| 07:41 | <@Soren> | it's flexible enough, which is all it really has to be. |
| 08:06 | < addking> | Okay, 3 am, I'm off to bed. Evenin' all, thanks again. |
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| 15:13 | < Mantisking> | I swear that list on the side gets shorter every time I log in here. |
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| 15:57 | < afny> | how2irc |
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| 17:18 | <+ferrelferret> | yo |
| 17:19 | < afny> | o/ |
| 17:24 | <+ferrelferret> | How goes it? |
| 17:25 | < afny> | p good, watching starcraft |
| 17:25 | < afny> | might build another ALEF today |
| 17:25 | < afny> | there's like, TWO starcraft tournaments going on concurrently so I've pretty much been watching it all weekend |
| 17:42 | <+ferrelferret> | Cool. |
| 17:42 | <+ferrelferret> | I've been consumed with AnimeFest Stuff. |
| 17:42 | <+ferrelferret> | This next weekend will be crazy. :| |
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| 19:53 | < afny> | hm |
| 19:53 | < afny> | need halfpins |
| 19:54 | < afny> | they're probably in a bunch of guns |
| 19:54 | < afny> | that I could use normal technic pins for |
| 19:54 | < afny> | BUT WHICH ONES |
| 19:55 | <+FerrelFerret> | Decisions! o_O |
| 20:03 | <+FerrelFerret> | Bought the new Planet series 2 sets... |
| 20:03 | <+FerrelFerret> | Star Wars Planet |
| 20:04 | <+FerrelFerret> | Tried to build something from just one set, didn't work too well |
| 20:04 | < afny> | I never did pick up one of the sebulba sets |
| 20:04 | < afny> | probably not in stores anymore |
| 20:05 | <+FerrelFerret> | The walmarts here have them |
| 20:05 | <+FerrelFerret> | but the Bespin set has sooooooo much orange! |
| 20:07 | < afny> | no orange cheese it looks like |
| 20:07 | < afny> | but lots of nice larger slopes |
| 20:07 | < afny> | light bley minifig legs, too |
| 20:08 | <+FerrelFerret> | yeah, not enough of anything in the three sets to build something frame wise... |
| 20:09 | <+FerrelFerret> | but, now I'm trying all combined instead of individually. :) |
| 20:10 | <+FerrelFerret> | though, the AT-ST did have enough for every thing except arms on a hardsuit |
| 20:10 | <+FerrelFerret> | I almost did it. :| |
| 20:13 | <+FerrelFerret> | http://flic.kr/p/cYscjC |
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| 20:15 | < addking> | afternoon |
| 20:15 | <+FerrelFerret> | yo |
| 20:32 | < addking> | sorry got distracted after login, what's shaking FF? |
| 20:43 | <+FerrelFerret> | Not much, chillin' at Starbuck's and working on AnimeFest Stuff. |
| 20:43 | <+FerrelFerret> | how about you? |
| 20:50 | < addking> | having a lazy afternoon, playing some d3, and working on some fluff for my companies. |
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| 20:55 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Sorry, adding, made a quick switch. |
| 20:55 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | You know, I've never played any Diablo games. |
| 20:56 | < addking> | no biggie man, i'm just killing time til dinner basically. |
| 20:56 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | That was supposed to be addking. Stupid phone. |
| 20:56 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | :) |
| 20:56 | < afny> | if you're gonna play one |
| 20:57 | < afny> | play d2 |
| 20:57 | < addking> | didn't even notice ;) |
| 20:57 | < afny> | the first one is great, but dated |
| 20:57 | < afny> | but second one is a timeless classic (if you like clicking) |
| 20:57 | < addking> | i had rediculous gear in d2, and it was a better game, but i have friends playing d3 currently, so I'm playing it as well. |
| 20:57 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Need to finish Mass Effect 1 first. lol |
| 20:58 | < afny> | I didn't hold on to my d2 character from release |
| 20:58 | < afny> | whenever I play now it's just hardcore runs |
| 20:58 | < afny> | so I tend to go for builds that aren't really gear reliant |
| 20:58 | < addking> | yeah this guy i'm playing is a hc mage in d3. i'm at the point i've lost a few dudes before, so this time i'm AHin a bit of better gear. |
| 20:59 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Yeah, I never really got into MMO's. |
| 20:59 | < afny> | last two playthroughs |
| 20:59 | < afny> | hm, I think my friend lost his necro in like |
| 20:59 | < afny> | the arcane sanctum lol |
| 20:59 | < afny> | so we restarted |
| 20:59 | < afny> | I played a wind druid up to hell |
| 20:59 | < afny> | before we got bored |
| 21:00 | < afny> | people treated diablo 2 like an mmo, but you don't have to play it that way |
| 21:00 | < addking> | arcane sanctum was my favorite 'board' per se, with the tombs of tal rasha after than. best part of the game IMO. |
| 21:00 | < afny> | it's more fun as a casual coop experience |
| 21:00 | < afny> | yeah, act 2 is incredible |
| 21:00 | < afny> | he died because I blocking his pathing lol |
| 21:00 | < afny> | blocked* |
| 21:00 | < addking> | ouch |
| 21:00 | < afny> | I may have done it on purpose |
| 21:01 | < afny> | his skeletons were annoying as fuck |
| 21:01 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I played WoW for a while, but all my friends were way higher than me so I never really got into it. |
| 21:01 | < afny> | my friends always leveled way quicker than me |
| 21:01 | < afny> | they just played constantly |
| 21:02 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Yeah, real life seems to interfere with games with me. |
| 21:02 | < addking> | I played the shit out of WoW for 5 years. I occasionally miss the thrill of killing first time raid bosses. Nothing else. |
| 21:02 | < afny> | d2 is nice because you can clear a difficulty in a couple days |
| 21:02 | < afny> | so even if your friends want to poopsock it up, you can make it through |
| 21:02 | < afny> | addking, I've been playing Monster Hunter a lot recently |
| 21:03 | < afny> | it's a very good alternative to raiding |
| 21:03 | < addking> | yeah, i've tuned down my grinding in d3 to basically keep pace with my friends. |
| 21:03 | < afny> | sort of like a methadone clinic for ex-raiders |
| 21:03 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I've been trying to get a play test if D&D Next together. |
| 21:04 | < addking> | Next? |
| 21:04 | < afny> | I have absolutely no interest in WOTC products anymore |
| 21:04 | < addking> | is that like 5th ed? |
| 21:04 | < afny> | yeah |
| 21:04 | < addking> | my group plays 3.5 |
| 21:04 | < addking> | none of us were interested in 4 |
| 21:04 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I like the way they are putting it together. |
| 21:04 | < afny> | honestly I think 3.5 is worse than four in a lot of ways |
| 21:05 | < afny> | the thing I don't like about 4 is its focus on encounters, and it could be interpreted as "shallow" |
| 21:05 | < afny> | but I don't like the direction 3.5 or even 3 took |
| 21:05 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Been listening to the podcasts and it sounds good |
| 21:05 | < afny> | I listened to PA's podcast about it |
| 21:05 | < addking> | I enjoyed the rebuild of 3. we moved to 3.5 due to some of the upgrades/fixes. |
| 21:06 | < addking> | yeah i enjoyed the 4.0 podcasts from wil/pa/scott |
| 21:06 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I'm playing 3.5 through In the Time of Heros. I like 4e better. |
| 21:06 | < afny> | I love those podcasts, but it's because of the people playing |
| 21:06 | < addking> | when did you start? |
| 21:06 | < afny> | and not the rulesets |
| 21:06 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I started with 4 |
| 21:07 | < addking> | that's likely part of it. |
| 21:07 | < addking> | i started with the red box in the early 80s |
| 21:07 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | But I looked at 3.5 before I chose 4 |
| 21:07 | < afny> | and you LIKE 3.5? |
| 21:07 | < afny> | that sort of surprises me |
| 21:07 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | No, I prefer 4 |
| 21:07 | < addking> | well, i hated 2ed it it makes you feel better ;P |
| 21:07 | < afny> | No, I mean addking |
| 21:08 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Ahh |
| 21:08 | < afny> | I just feel like everything 3 (and 3.5) did restricted roleplay |
| 21:08 | < addking> | really? |
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| 21:08 | < afny> | Well, I should make it clear |
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| 21:08 | < afny> | I have radical opinions about this |
| 21:09 | < addking> | the feats/ability to take any levels in any class felt like a lot more freedom to me. |
| 21:09 | < afny> | for instance, I think alignments are the stupidest thing ever |
| 21:09 | < addking> | most people can't play them anyway. |
| 21:09 | < afny> | they're unrealistic, but more importantly |
| 21:09 | < afny> | they box players in |
| 21:09 | < afny> | and they do it subconsciously |
| 21:09 | < Mantisking> | D&D Next? |
| 21:09 | < afny> | just in general |
| 21:09 | < addking> | discussing older editions atm |
| 21:10 | < afny> | another problem I have with 3.0/3.5 |
| 21:10 | < Mantisking> | I prefer the alignment system from Palladium. |
| 21:10 | < afny> | is that it takes power away from the DM and gives it to the player |
| 21:10 | < addking> | agreed there MK. |
| 21:10 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | The name for 5th atm. |
| 21:10 | < afny> | that, combined with the breadth of character classes and shit |
| 21:10 | < afny> | means that the DM has to work way harder than they should to challenge the player mechanically |
| 21:10 | < afny> | especially if even one player is min/maxing |
| 21:11 | < Mantisking> | I don't think I've touched D&D in a long while. |
| 21:11 | < Mantisking> | Well, there was this one time at the house-con where I was introduced to Mechaton but, I'd like to forget that. |
| 21:11 | < afny> | Palladium alignments sound bad to me as well |
| 21:12 | < afny> | even worse, in fact, because it's even more black and white and restrictive |
| 21:12 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | lol |
| 21:12 | < addking> | ah, my campaign is all older players, i'm the youngest at 38. min/maxing isn't abused in the group. I'm the most likely to do so, and I purposely don't. Even tho I spent lots of time finding broken stuff. |
| 21:12 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | From the play test material, it looks like they have gone back to the old alignments. |
| 21:14 | < Mantisking> | Really Afny? The alignments in Palladium are more like guidelines, and there's no "true neutral" sillyness. |
| 21:14 | < afny> | but I don't hate true neutral |
| 21:14 | < afny> | in fact, it's the only alignment I don't hate |
| 21:14 | < addking> | lol |
| 21:14 | < afny> | my problem with alignments is that is subconsciously boxes players into playing an ALIGNMENT when they should be playing a character |
| 21:14 | < afny> | if you give a player 9 options |
| 21:14 | < afny> | they are only going to pick one of those 9 |
| 21:15 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | But they are focusing on RP instead of combat in Next. |
| 21:15 | < afny> | sure, and that's an improvement over 4e, but it'll still constrain the player in unnecessary ways |
| 21:15 | < addking> | they go to a spellpoint system yet? |
| 21:15 | < afny> | like I said, my opinions on this are radical |
| 21:15 | < afny> | I don't expect many dnd players to agree with me |
| 21:15 | < addking> | or they keep 'slots' ? |
| 21:16 | < Mantisking> | I wouldn't call your opinions radical. |
| 21:17 | < addking> | nope, heard the anti-alignment school of opinion lots of time. |
| 21:17 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | To hard for me to explain with my phone keypad. The podcasts explain it well. |
| 21:17 | < addking> | my only thought on that is, it's only an issue when it rewards or punishes the player. |
| 21:18 | < addking> | which i dont' recall palladium's doing. (haven't used their system since like 88 tho) |
| 21:18 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Instead of standard move minor in 4e... |
| 21:18 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | It's action move. |
| 21:19 | < addking> | for now! |
| 21:19 | < addking> | they always slip in another way to cheat the amount of 'plays' in a round. |
| 21:19 | < afny> | hm |
| 21:19 | < addking> | quickened, free, minor, etc actions ;P |
| 21:19 | < afny> | I haven't played palladium, I just looked at the alignments |
| 21:19 | < afny> | I agree with you, as long as it doesn't reward or punish the player |
| 21:19 | < afny> | it's much less of a thing |
| 21:20 | < afny> | the problem with dnd, or in videogames with moral choice systems (in some cases) |
| 21:20 | < addking> | it's meant to be a tool to help develop your guy not hinder them. |
| 21:20 | < addking> | or gal (just saying) |
| 21:20 | < afny> | well, the same cold be said about dnd alignments |
| 21:20 | < afny> | but in the way that a coloring book is helps you draw |
| 21:20 | < afny> | it's OVERLY restrictive |
| 21:20 | < afny> | the best way to make an interesting character is to have them act "against their alignment" |
| 21:20 | < afny> | and games that punish that only allow you to tell a very basic story with your character |
| 21:21 | < afny> | or even if they don't outright punish it, they sort of discourage it |
| 21:21 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Example: one doesn't have to use a minor to sheath/unsheath a sword... |
| 21:21 | < addking> | heh, in 3, that's part of your move action. |
| 21:21 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | It's assumed as part of an action. |
| 21:22 | < afny> | er..that "is" up there wasn't necessary |
| 21:22 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Right, but now you can move some, attack, and finish moving. |
| 21:23 | < addking> | that's nice, giving some more fluidity, but that just makes combat 'harder' |
| 21:23 | < addking> | btw afny, my complaints about 2ed sound very much like your complaints about 3ed. |
| 21:23 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Right, they are going back to when combat would kick your ass. |
| 21:24 | < afny> | I'm not too familiar with 2ed, It'd probably make me angry as well |
| 21:25 | < addking> | well, it was in my opinion not enough of an overhaul of original AD&D. They just added depth at the cost of a ton more restrictions and rule sets. |
| 21:26 | < afny> | yeah, it does seem everything past adnd focused on the wrong bits |
| 21:26 | < afny> | did I link you to that PA report thing about the rerelease books? |
| 21:26 | < addking> | no? |
| 21:26 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I highly suggest listening to the new character creation podcasts with PA and PvP for PAX Primes live game. |
| 21:27 | < afny> | http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/what-we-can-learn-from-the-re-i ssued-first-edition-advanced-dungeons-and-dr |
| 21:27 | < afny> | I was spamming it in the chat a week ago |
| 21:27 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | After I started the subject. ;) I remember. |
| 21:27 | < afny> | Nah, I had been linking it since I read it |
| 21:27 | < afny> | out of the blue |
| 21:27 | < afny> | because I wanted Ced to read it |
| 21:28 | < afny> | we'd talked about alignments and 3rd edition before, but I don't think I ever did convince him to read it |
| 21:28 | < afny> | he just said "I don't read Penny Arcade" |
| 21:28 | < afny> | :| |
| 21:28 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Germans... :| |
| 21:28 | < addking> | yeah, i concur with a lot of the opening info about the ruleset. that's why i liked 3ed's d20 system being more 'generic' (ie, like Gurps or Palladium at it's core) |
| 21:29 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I like how with Next, they know some won't like it, so the settings books are being created so that you could use them in any system. |
| 21:30 | < addking> | I played RIFTs, TMNT, Robotech all palladium stuff; Mechwarrior (so many d6s); Car Wars, all kinds of stuff in the 80s. I gave up for about 10 years. |
| 21:31 | < addking> | FF - that's true of any revision of any game. |
| 21:31 | < Mantisking> | Addking, that sounds like a list of the things I played too. |
| 21:32 | < addking> | yeah i'm sure it's not uncommon |
| 21:32 | < addking> | if you were a gamer the 80s had lots of options |
| 21:32 | < addking> | and there was good and bad in all the systems |
| 21:32 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | As a kid, I never had the money to play battletech, or other role play games... |
| 21:33 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Or the attention span to play d&d |
| 21:34 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I've just in the few past years learned to cope with my ADD enough to read books. :/ |
| 21:35 | < addking> | oddly, one of my friends and long time players back then, used AD&D to overcome his ADD. He loved the game, so he worked hard to get his reading level up. |
| 21:35 | < addking> | course no one called it ADD then. |
| 21:36 | < addking> | well, overcome/cope enough |
| 21:36 | < addking> | he still did pretty bad in school |
| 21:36 | < addking> | lost contact with him pre-internet after he got married. |
| 21:37 | < addking> | afny - yes DM fiat in AD&D allowed a lot more DM power, but also meant occasionally, you just got up and left. campaign over. |
| 21:38 | < addking> | hmm, now I'm gonna have to check out the 5th ed stuff |
| 21:38 | < afny> | As in the party was wiped out? |
| 21:38 | < addking> | 4th ed reminded me of MMORPGS. |
| 21:38 | < afny> | I don't mind that at all, honestly |
| 21:39 | < afny> | I mean, I know that's not how everyone approaches dnd |
| 21:39 | < addking> | no, as in 'fuck that' 'bad call' 'not fun' etc. |
| 21:39 | < afny> | oh |
| 21:39 | < afny> | yeah |
| 21:39 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | You can register and get all the materials. |
| 21:39 | < afny> | I dunno, there's still an element of that in any game with GM asymmetry |
| 21:39 | < afny> | any game can be ruined by a bad gm or by bad players no matter how many rules you put between them |
| 21:41 | < addking> | that's also true. getting older helped a lot of that too. because you could have a discussion about it, instead of a fight. |
| 21:42 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Anyone here listen to Critical Hit from Major Spoilers? Good D&D podcast. |
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| 21:57 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Gotta log off for a while. |
| 21:57 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Later |
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| 22:38 | < DeathZero> | Allo |
| 22:39 | < afny> | o/ |
| 22:40 | < DeathZero> | o/ |
| 22:41 | < DeathZero> | hows it goin? |
| 22:41 | < afny> | Good |
| 22:41 | < afny> | been wanting to build racing frames all day since that post by Joshua but I can't tear myself away from MLG Raleigh |
| 22:42 | < DeathZero> | lol. |
| 22:44 | < DeathZero> | I been working on gettin a laptop running that I was given. |
| 22:56 | < DeathZero> | and now that I'm to the point of installing Windows, I realize I left it somewhere when I was out working on somebody elses computer. |
| 22:56 | < DeathZero> | alright, away I go to fetch that. |
| 22:57 | | DeathZero is now known as DZ|Away |
| 23:01 | < afny> | :| |
| 23:30 | | DZ|Away is now known as DeathZero |
| 23:30 | < DeathZero> | and now I'm back with cd. :D |
| 23:34 | < afny> | wb |
| 23:36 | < DeathZero> | ty |
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