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01:34 | <@randolph> | Hey guys |
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01:51 | < DeathZero> | evenin. |
01:59 | <@randolph> | hey |
02:00 | < DeathZero> | sup |
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02:01 | <@randolph> | hey FF |
02:01 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Yo |
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02:02 | <@randolph> | Hey D |
02:02 | < Dukayn> | howdy |
02:02 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I hope I rolled correctly for the RP |
02:02 | < Dukayn> | Figured I'd been neglectful enough of you lot already, time to show some love :P |
02:02 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Hey, Dukayn. |
02:02 | < Dukayn> | Sup Ferret |
02:03 | < DeathZero> | woo, peoples. |
02:03 | < DeathZero> | sup |
02:03 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Nm |
02:03 | <@randolph> | On the care and feeding of your IRC channel... |
02:04 | < Dukayn> | hahaha |
02:04 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | :) |
02:04 | < Dukayn> | Almost over this stupid flu bug now too, which helps :) |
02:05 | <@randolph> | Oh man, the Stupid Flu. Is it catching? <_< |
02:05 | < DeathZero> | good to hear. |
02:05 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Ah, flu season on the other side of the world. |
02:06 | < Dukayn> | Yeah basically my whole state has come down with it. |
02:06 | < Dukayn> | Facebook is about 3 dozen people a day whining about how sick they are. |
02:07 | <@randolph> | hee |
02:07 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Hard to figure that anyone is in winter when it's 105 at 8 pm. :/ |
02:07 | < Dukayn> | hahaha |
02:07 | < Dukayn> | Well, the other day I got up out of bed and it was -2?C at 7am |
02:08 | < DeathZero> | meh. It's been close to 100 here most of the summer. |
02:08 | < Dukayn> | which is 28.4?F |
02:08 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Well, we aren't as hot as last year. |
02:08 | < Dukayn> | where in the US are you Ferret? |
02:08 | < DeathZero> | I was gettin ready to ask that. lol |
02:09 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Texas |
02:09 | < Dukayn> | Ah |
02:09 | < Dukayn> | Yes |
02:09 | < Dukayn> | Hot. |
02:09 | < DeathZero> | heh, glad I left irving. |
02:09 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Everything is brown |
02:09 | < Dukayn> | insert Mexican joke |
02:09 | < DeathZero> | Texas was better than living in Arizona though. |
02:10 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I'm 1/4 Hispanic... |
02:11 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | And 1/2 Irish. With a hodgepodge of other back grounds. :) |
02:12 | < DeathZero> | I'm mutt mixed with german. o_o |
02:12 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Germany is in there. :) |
02:13 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Last year here in Texas we almost broke the record for consecutive day above the century mark. |
02:13 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Two days shy of it. |
02:13 | < DeathZero> | meh. still glad I got out when I had the chance. |
02:14 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I still like it despite the heat. :) |
02:15 | < DeathZero> | you can keep it. |
02:17 | < neoaez1> | I'd rather deal with this dry Texas heat than the humidity of the Mississippi coast. |
02:17 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Thank you, zero. You're so generous. ;) |
02:18 | < DeathZero> | meh:P |
02:18 | < neoaez1> | Don't forget half of it is mine. |
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02:18 | < DeathZero> | I prefer it up here in Indy. Aside from this past summer |
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02:18 | < DeathZero> | I swear, this past summer here has been so hot and dry I could have been in Texas again. |
02:18 | < neoaez1> | Where in Indiana? |
02:18 | < DeathZero> | Indianapolis. o_O |
02:18 | < DeathZero> | like 15 min from where GenCon is gonna be. |
02:18 | < neoaez1> | Ah. We have family in Evansville. |
02:19 | < DeathZero> | cool. |
02:19 | < neoaez1> | Can't get much further south and still be in Indiana. |
02:20 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | On another, MFZ related, note... |
02:20 | < DeathZero> | yea, I've passed through it on my way out of state plenty, never stopped though. |
02:20 | | * neoaez1 waits |
02:20 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I'm thinking of trying a minifig chub or conscript. |
02:21 | < DeathZero> | o_O |
02:21 | < neoaez1> | Cool. I'm not ready to commit that much lego to a frame. |
02:21 | < DeathZero> | one that holds a minifig? or is the size of a minifig? |
02:22 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Holds a minifig. |
02:22 | < DeathZero> | nm. I guess making them the size of a minifig wouldn't make much sense. Chub's not a whole lot bigger than a minifig.anyways. |
02:22 | < DeathZero> | >_> |
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02:42 | < neoaez1> | Way to go, DZ. You killed the conversation. |
02:44 | < Dukayn> | hahaha |
02:44 | <~McMartin> | FLAWLESS VICTORY |
02:45 | < neoaez1> | I'm ready for a game. Too bad the kiddo is at karate tonight. |
02:47 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Sorry, I got busy. |
02:49 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Neoaz: I'm going to try and demo some at Area51 in Grapevine on Thursday. |
02:50 | < neoaez1> | Ooo. |
02:50 | < neoaez1> | What time? |
02:50 | <~McMartin> | Boo |
02:50 | <~McMartin> | My cross-state trek is *Wednesday* |
02:51 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I'm thinking about getting there around 5 and staying late. |
02:51 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Wednesday is d&d night here in the states. |
02:53 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | And Area51 has a lot of d&ders. |
02:53 | < neoaez1> | I'll have to see if I can break away and get out there. My Friday's start pretty early and Area 51 is over an hour from my house. |
02:54 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | But if you are in North Texas tomorrow night, I could squeeze in a game. |
02:54 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | :) |
02:54 | < neoaez1> | Heh |
02:56 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Neoaz: I'll be glad to see you if you can make it. :) |
02:56 | < neoaez1> | I'll see what I can do. I might be on the Dallas side of town Thursday so that might make it easier. |
02:58 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I'll message Sage, too. See if he wants to come. |
02:58 | < neoaez1> | Cool. |
02:59 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | The more companies, the better the demo. XD |
03:01 | < DeathZero> | :P wheres my victory prize? |
03:01 | < DeathZero> | Also, busy putting kid to bed. back later. |
03:20 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Off topic... What did you think about Matt Smith running the Olympic torch? |
03:21 | < Dukayn> | I don't follow the Olympics, but Doctor Who is such a part of English culture it makes sense to include him. |
03:21 | < Dukayn> | and despite personal preferences on your favourite Doctor, he's the current one so if it was going to be anyone it was going to be him. |
03:22 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I wanted to see Tennant, but I understand why they did it. It would have been nerdy-fanboy greatness |
03:22 | < Dukayn> | Yeah but Tennant isn't in any way attached to the Doctor Who franchise any more. |
03:23 | < Dukayn> | Having him run would be as relevant as having Sylvester McCoy run. |
03:23 | < Dukayn> | Or that blonde guy in the white suit who's name nobody remembers :P |
03:24 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Well, it would have been relevant because it was already in an episode. |
03:24 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | But I know why the did it |
03:24 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | And I'm not upset |
03:24 | < Dukayn> | They're not going to include him because they showed it in an episode once :P |
03:25 | < Dukayn> | I mean shit, how much stuff happens in London in that show? |
03:26 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Right, that's why it would have been nerdy greatness if they semi-recreated Fear Her |
03:26 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I know right. Lol |
03:28 | < Dukayn> | right, food time |
03:38 | <~McMartin> | Didn't they instead recreate a Pink Floyd music video? |
03:46 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Did they? I don't watch the Olympics, just heard about the Matt Smith part. |
03:59 | <@randolph> | DeathZero: My Chibis *are* minifig-sized Chubs |
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06:23 | < Dukayn> | O SHIT HE'S ALIVE |
06:23 | < Dukayn> | sup Ced23Ric |
06:24 | <@randolph> | Hey Ced |
06:24 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hey heay. :) |
06:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | How are my sexypants doing today? |
06:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh, oh. |
06:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | You are all modern and technologically advanced people, right? |
06:28 | <@randolph> | I am a primitive luddite. |
06:28 | < Dukayn> | I come from the future |
06:28 | <@randolph> | With a decade-out-of-date exocortex |
06:29 | < Dukayn> | I was once a nubile young teenage girl who protected John Conner, but my show got cancelled so now I'm a hairy Tasmanian dude. |
06:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay then. |
06:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Do you have and use WhatsApp? |
06:31 | < Dukayn> | Nah man, you saw my comments on FB. Looks like just another IM program and I have plenty as it is. |
06:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | You don't underSTAND. |
06:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's not an IM program like Y!, ICQ, AIM, Skype, etc. |
06:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | It basically gives you 2nd "text" option, if you will. |
06:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | Plugs right into your contacts. No account, no signup, no constant data stream. |
06:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's a push mailer, for texts, images, videos, voice files, files in general. |
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06:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | But instead of using your carriers text/MMS systems, which cost you or use up booked quantities, it uses your datastream. |
06:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Wordlwide, free of charge other than your dataplan. |
06:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | With anyone who's number you have? |
06:34 | < CalaveraJoe> | Hola! |
06:34 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ced: Whassat? |
06:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Got an American number? No probrem. I chatted with my good friend Kitty last night. |
06:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | German? Yeah, same deal. |
06:34 | < Dukayn> | I don't have any international contacts. |
06:34 | < Dukayn> | So, kinda pointless. |
06:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | CJ: WhatsApp for smart phones (Android, Blackberry, iPhone). |
06:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | You have ME. |
06:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | And Randy! |
06:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | And Mittens! |
06:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | Etc. |
06:35 | < Dukayn> | You're not in my phone contacts. |
06:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... which, I see, is a fact as solid as a rock and impossible to change. |
06:35 | < CalaveraJoe> | How is it an improvement over existing apps? Aim, Jabber, Skype, etc. etc. etc? |
06:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | You got me beat there. |
06:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | CJ: |
06:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | [07:32:30] <@Ced23Ric> It's not an IM program like Y!, ICQ, AIM, Skype, etc. |
06:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | [07:32:47] <@Ced23Ric> It basically gives you 2nd "text" option, if you will. |
06:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | [07:33:03] <@Ced23Ric> Plugs right into your contacts. No account, no signup, no constant data stream. |
06:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | [07:33:29] <@Ced23Ric> It's a push mailer, for texts, images, videos, voice files, files in general. |
06:36 | <@randolph> | Which is neat |
06:36 | < CalaveraJoe> | Hrm. And it works with folks who /aren't/ using it? |
06:36 | <@randolph> | Hey CJ |
06:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | CJ: Well ... no. It requires WhatsApp on both ends. Because, without the client, the data cannot be interpreted. |
06:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's not a "different way to text"; but a "text alternative". |
06:37 | < CalaveraJoe> | *nod* So the trick is convincing as many of your contacts as possible to grab it |
06:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, I have a buttload, because so many people already do use it. |
06:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | But, essentially, you'd need to ask them to install a free app that causes no hidden costs and has no downsides. |
06:38 | < CalaveraJoe> | *nodnod* Gotcha. Sorry for ninjaing the convo. As you were. |
06:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | I stay in touch with my Canadian friends with it, and I converse with my roomies with it. |
06:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's just light-weight and nifty. It practically ended any need for texting in my day-to-day life. :D |
06:39 | < Dukayn> | It sounds neat, I just have no reason to grab it. It'd require for me to actually go and add people to my contacts for no other reason than to use WhatsApp, which makes it exactly the same as any other IM program from my perspective. |
06:39 | <@randolph> | I'll stick to telepathy until I get a data plan. |
06:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukey: So, you don't have contacts..? |
06:39 | < CalaveraJoe> | randolph: use wifi, no plan necessary |
06:39 | < Dukayn> | I do, they're all in Australia. |
06:39 | <@randolph> | Duk: the difference is always-on |
06:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | The thing is, IF someone HAS WhatsApp ... and you don't know ... |
06:40 | <@randolph> | This doesn't have to be |
06:40 | < Dukayn> | And I have free text to all Australian numbers |
06:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... it automatically adds them, if they are on your contact list. |
06:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, "adds", it plugs in, really. |
06:40 | < Dukayn> | randy: I can always text someone... |
06:40 | < Dukayn> | And it always goes to their phone. |
06:40 | < Dukayn> | Without an app |
06:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Welp. |
06:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | You have your standpoint and don't care for it. That's fine. :) |
06:41 | < CalaveraJoe> | I think what Dukayn is arguing is that in many respects, this feels redundant |
06:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | But I'd just like to point out that you are partaking in an international community. |
06:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | CJ: It is and it is not. |
06:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Texting is just the base function. |
06:42 | < Dukayn> | I'm just saying it's redundant for ME |
06:42 | <@randolph> | He just doesn't want this relationship to go any further at this time, Ced. |
06:42 | <@randolph> | You're crowding him, and he's not ready to commit |
06:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | But as soon as Dukey would attempt to send me a video or several images while he's building a 'frame or so, he'd be in a pickle. |
06:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Or would need a computer. |
06:42 | < CalaveraJoe> | Or he could just /email/ |
06:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Whereas I could just snap a picture or a video and send it. |
06:42 | < CalaveraJoe> | form his phone |
06:42 | <@randolph> | He's too nice to day it, but maybe next date |
06:43 | <@randolph> | *say |
06:43 | <@randolph> | damn my fingers |
06:43 | < CalaveraJoe> | from, not form |
06:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | CJ: eMail is cumbersome, compared to "Dukey, Send Video, go.", is it not? |
06:43 | < Dukayn> | not really dude |
06:43 | < CalaveraJoe> | Not really. Since I can, from any piece of media on my phone pop the menu, chose share, email, select a contact and smack send |
06:44 | < Dukayn> | What CJ said |
06:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | And how is that tracked? |
06:44 | < CalaveraJoe> | This, of course, presumes I have an email address for a given body |
06:44 | < Dukayn> | it's like, 3 clicks? |
06:44 | <@randolph> | context menu I think? |
06:44 | < CalaveraJoe> | Tracked how? Like read receipts? |
06:44 | < Dukayn> | basically. share button, email, contact, send. |
06:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, like a communication history. |
06:44 | < CalaveraJoe> | For me, through Gmail |
06:44 | < Dukayn> | as opposed to... share button, WhatsApp, contact, send |
06:44 | < CalaveraJoe> | so /ridiculously/ so |
06:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | GMail tracks your texts aswell? |
06:44 | < CalaveraJoe> | threaded convos, etc |
06:45 | < CalaveraJoe> | No, but I actually text rather infrequently |
06:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... I guess the make and break point is the whole planetwide communication thing. |
06:45 | < CalaveraJoe> | I'd say, for communication via my phone, its 60% email, 20-25% Facebook, and the rest SMS |
06:45 | < CalaveraJoe> | And thats for domestic and international folks |
06:46 | < CalaveraJoe> | There's some random Skyping in there (usually video / voice calls, especially internationally) |
06:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | Allow me to divert the attention on an entirely differen topic: http://oglaf.com/media/comic/sexualcavalry.jpg |
06:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | NRSFW. |
06:46 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yay oglaf! |
06:46 | < Dukayn> | redirect loop |
06:46 | < CalaveraJoe> | Going along with subject changes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11263807@N04/7681500346/in/set-72157630528833250/ |
06:46 | < Dukayn> | but, I saw it already so :P |
06:46 | < CalaveraJoe> | WTF is the bit between the 1x1 with clips on the thighs? |
06:47 | < Dukayn> | I saw that earlier on Flickr |
06:47 | < Dukayn> | "2 modified 1x1 plates with clip light that have the plate removed from the circle bit so that it's just an element with a stud on each end." |
06:47 | <@randolph> | tap |
06:47 | < Dukayn> | from the description |
06:47 | < CalaveraJoe> | Also, would I be the devil for drilling a bunch of 1x1 rounds to make them into diy 1x1 rounds with holes? |
06:48 | < CalaveraJoe> | I guess I'm just not groking "1x1 plates with clip light that have the plate removed from the circle bit so that it's just an element with a stud on each end" |
06:49 | < CalaveraJoe> | OH |
06:49 | < CalaveraJoe> | Nevermind |
06:49 | < CalaveraJoe> | *sigh* helps if I pay attention to the part he's talking about |
06:49 | < CalaveraJoe> | derp |
06:49 | < CalaveraJoe> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4081 |
06:49 | < CalaveraJoe> | One of those, cut apart |
06:51 | <@randolph> | Ah, yeah. Mittens did that on his Grand Naga |
06:51 | <@randolph> | And someone else did the drillbit to a 1x1 round thing |
06:51 | <@randolph> | If you can figure out who, you can even ask what gauge |
06:51 | < CalaveraJoe> | Sadly, I don't think I've got nearly enough of those clips to chop 'em to pieces |
06:51 | < CalaveraJoe> | randolph: Or I can just take check against a headlight or travis |
06:52 | <@randolph> | You might want it a bit snugger than that, but sure |
06:52 | <@randolph> | Oh man, CJ, I have a ton of those |
06:52 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah, I'd probably find that size, then go a hair or two smaller |
06:52 | < CalaveraJoe> | What color? |
06:52 | <@randolph> | white |
06:53 | < CalaveraJoe> | Costa Mesa? |
06:53 | | * CalaveraJoe thinks he saw them on the inventory there. |
06:53 | <@randolph> | They were there before |
06:53 | <@randolph> | But that was a month ago |
06:54 | <@randolph> | I stopped paying attention to that part since I have so many, but if you want some you can have some |
06:54 | | * CalaveraJoe chuckles. "It figures that the only folks in my contacts list who are on WhatsApp are an Olympic Shooting coach and a Brazilian business woman |
06:54 | < CalaveraJoe> | I may take you up on that (was actually thinking when we meet up I'd schlep along my full kit so we can swap some parts if there's any that the other person needs) |
06:55 | < CalaveraJoe> | I need to get on BL and just find a big pile of them in dark bley in both orientations, MAYBE some in red and black |
06:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Here#s a question. |
06:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Is there gonna be a big meet-up of mofos in the forseeable future? |
06:56 | < CalaveraJoe> | I wouldn't be surprised if there was one at some point, though it'd probably coincide with a con |
06:57 | <@randolph> | Ced yeah, there's a con coming up I think |
06:57 | <@randolph> | and some Texans said they'er meeting up soon |
06:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | Kk. |
06:57 | <@randolph> | After CJ and I meet up and make sure we're not axe murderers, we can probably hold a weekender or somethign |
06:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, it looks like I'll have suprise vacation in October. |
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06:58 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ced: In WhatsApp, the "last seen" time, is that in local time to the user or to the contact? |
06:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | As in, I haven't had time off all year and my deployment management is getting iffy about it. |
06:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | CJ: Good question. I think it's local. |
06:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lemme check real quick. |
06:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ah, balls. |
07:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | I'll get back to you on that, but I am 90% sure it is "your time". |
07:00 | < Dukayn> | That makes the most sense. |
07:01 | < Dukayn> | And it doesn't really make sense to show it in their local time as the information is to help you. |
07:02 | < CalaveraJoe> | One would /hope/ that was the logic |
07:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hope has die-hard and CON 18. |
07:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | (It dies last.) |
07:02 | < Dukayn> | nerd |
07:02 | < Dukayn> | :P |
07:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | So? :D |
07:03 | <@randolph> | In case anyone wondered, that's what Nadezhda means ;) |
07:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have a date today - and my roomies requested Twitter-style updates. |
07:03 | <@randolph> | haha |
07:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | Danni wrote "Subscribe @KrischanRasch" |
07:03 | <@randolph> | I'm almost tempted for your number so I can text R U MAKIN OUT YET |
07:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | I replied: "Bedtime. #fuckmyroomies" |
07:04 | < Dukayn> | lol |
07:04 | < Dukayn> | that your real Twitter Ced? |
07:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | And he came back with: "RT: @KrischanRasch: Bedtime. #fuckmyroomies" |
07:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nah, I don't have Twitter. |
07:04 | < Dukayn> | Bah |
07:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | But we sometimes communicate in Twitter-style. |
07:04 | < Dukayn> | So much for future-living tech nerd. |
07:04 | < Dukayn> | :P |
07:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Via texts, IRC, WhatsApp etc. |
07:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Or in conversations. |
07:05 | <@randolph> | Webcam contacts. It's the only way. |
07:05 | < CalaveraJoe> | Oh #firstworldproblems |
07:05 | <@randolph> | (that's contact-lenses) |
07:05 | < Dukayn> | #nerdwordproblems you mean ;) |
07:08 | < CalaveraJoe> | Hey, does the clip light piece only come in one orientation, or does it come in both horizontal and vertical like the 6019 / 4085 do? |
07:08 | < Dukayn> | only one |
07:08 | < CalaveraJoe> | Thought so |
07:08 | < Dukayn> | fixable with a Stanley knife and Superglue ;) |
07:08 | < CalaveraJoe> | Just making sure, since occasionally there's that oddball esoteric weirdo piece |
07:09 | <@randolph> | You want the "b" version, btw |
07:09 | < CalaveraJoe> | Actually, you could probably carefully heat the neck and twist |
07:09 | <@randolph> | The "a" version is thinner, and isn't exactly 1p thick |
07:09 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah |
07:09 | <@randolph> | I use the hell out of those things |
07:09 | < CalaveraJoe> | *nod* That's my problem |
07:09 | <@randolph> | They're in damn near everything I build |
07:09 | < Dukayn> | I only have the thicker ones |
07:09 | < CalaveraJoe> | I don't think I actually picked up nearly enough in my BL orders |
07:10 | <@randolph> | Well, I mean, if you want some white ones, I can ... wait, your wedding thing is this weekend isn't it? |
07:11 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah, I'll be in riverside thurs-sun doing family stuff |
07:12 | < CalaveraJoe> | But I'll definitely take you up on a few when we do meet up |
07:12 | <@randolph> | kk |
07:13 | < CalaveraJoe> | I also hate that these don't in dark bley http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=92280 |
07:14 | < CalaveraJoe> | don't come in |
07:14 | < CalaveraJoe> | what the feck is wrong with my hands tonight |
07:14 | <@randolph> | try the vinyl dye? |
07:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... so close to weathering ... |
07:14 | < CalaveraJoe> | Not /really/ that critical, I can use black or red for most anything I'd use them in |
07:15 | <@randolph> | What *do* you use them in/ |
07:15 | <@randolph> | ? |
07:16 | <@randolph> | I've used them twice, once as kneepads, once as elbowpads |
07:16 | < CalaveraJoe> | Unless I'm remembering wrong, Ive got one as the joining piece between the lower body / leg part and upper body of an Ijad thingy I built |
07:16 | < CalaveraJoe> | No pics anyplace |
07:16 | <@randolph> | Ced: What happened to your evil plan to vinyl dye T-bars black? :D |
07:17 | < CalaveraJoe> | Also, their the feet for that thing I linked the pic of |
07:22 | < Dukayn> | CJ - 1x2 plate with a 1x1 clip will do basically the same job |
07:23 | < CalaveraJoe> | True |
07:23 | < CalaveraJoe> | its one of those "if they have any" toss in parts |
07:23 | < Dukayn> | be slightly taller but not by enough to worry about |
07:23 | < CalaveraJoe> | Especially not with digitigrade legs |
07:24 | | * CalaveraJoe should probably pick up some droid torsos at some point too |
07:24 | < CalaveraJoe> | All I've got are a few in tan |
07:24 | <@randolph> | oh man, I need droid torsos like woah |
07:24 | < CalaveraJoe> | *whistles* .30+ a pop |
07:25 | <@randolph> | in either black or white |
07:25 | < CalaveraJoe> | thats for dark bley |
07:25 | < CalaveraJoe> | Fuuuu .45 for black ones |
07:25 | <@randolph> | it's kind of a bitch that PAB online doesn't sell 'em |
07:25 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah, means there's no way to gauge what's insane to pay for the |
07:25 | <@randolph> | Well, I mean, they're minifig parts. And you can't get those cheap, esp since droids aren't in the make-a-fig |
07:25 | <@randolph> | well |
07:25 | <@randolph> | The gauge is "BL min" ;p |
07:26 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah |
07:26 | <@randolph> | Because if they *could* be cheaper, they would be |
07:26 | < CalaveraJoe> | Whoooeeee red ones? 2.90 a pop |
07:26 | <@randolph> | I just want the black ones for legs :| |
07:26 | < CalaveraJoe> | Dark bley it is, by 15 cents a pop |
07:26 | < Dukayn> | I've never really thought "Gee I need some droid torsos". Except when making the landmates of Malcolm's, but that was a novelty build. |
07:26 | <@randolph> | I was going to make a company |
07:27 | <@randolph> | Duk: They're my Chocobo's feet |
07:27 | <@randolph> | CJ: are you cleaning them out on those? |
07:27 | <@randolph> | If not, mind if I go in with you for a few? |
07:27 | < CalaveraJoe> | Just building a new wanted list for odds and ends |
07:27 | <@randolph> | ah ok |
07:27 | < CalaveraJoe> | Don't know that Ill be actually ordering |
07:27 | <@randolph> | heh |
07:28 | < CalaveraJoe> | At least before September |
07:28 | < Dukayn> | man I wish I had the money to make a decent sized BL order |
07:28 | <@randolph> | I've got a want list right now for a company of Brick Buddies |
07:28 | < Dukayn> | just go out there and get what I need to build my pirates. |
07:28 | <@randolph> | I'm finalizing the railgun launch system before I place it |
07:29 | < CalaveraJoe> | August is a little tight money wise |
07:29 | < CalaveraJoe> | Though there /is/ my student loan money at the end of the month |
07:29 | <@randolph> | snerk |
07:29 | < Dukayn> | Yeah for us especially. We're going to Melbourne for a week in 10 days. Assuming my kids don't have this flu any more. |
07:29 | <@randolph> | Hey, white droid torsos, a quarter a piece |
07:29 | <@randolph> | Though black would be better |
07:30 | < CalaveraJoe> | Could always dye them |
07:30 | < Dukayn> | *coughvinyldiecough* |
07:30 | <@randolph> | hehe |
07:30 | <@randolph> | then hell, tan it is |
07:30 | < Dukayn> | DYE |
07:30 | < Dukayn> | DAMMIT |
07:30 | < Dukayn> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vmw03_gadian_b6.png |
07:30 | < CalaveraJoe> | Then again, I'd wager the cost of the dye eats the part savings |
07:30 | <@randolph> | I dunno |
07:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Bahahahaha. |
07:30 | <@randolph> | It's a 0.10 savings per piece |
07:31 | < CalaveraJoe> | Well, what's a can of dye go for? |
07:31 | <@randolph> | er, 30 cent |
07:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | Facepalm 'Frame says no., |
07:31 | <@randolph> | Uh... checking |
07:31 | <@randolph> | $20 |
07:31 | < CalaveraJoe> | Soooo |
07:31 | <@randolph> | size of a can of spraypaint |
07:32 | <@randolph> | Need to do 67 to break even. |
07:32 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah |
07:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | Randy. Calculate for losses. |
07:32 | < CalaveraJoe> | and hope you don't melt any |
07:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
07:32 | <@randolph> | melt? |
07:32 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah |
07:32 | <@randolph> | They melt??? |
07:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | Rather go for 80 to break even. |
07:32 | < CalaveraJoe> | That's how the dye works |
07:32 | <@randolph> | eep |
07:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | Bahahaha. |
07:32 | <@randolph> | I didn't see Mittens say anything about meltage |
07:32 | < CalaveraJoe> | go go chemistry |
07:33 | <@randolph> | Well, screw that then, I'd only do it for T-bars |
07:33 | <@randolph> | or other "only comes in X" stuff |
07:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | Randy: Surface material is softened up, particles settle in, and material hardens again. |
07:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | Too much softener and you have a pile of poop. |
07:33 | < CalaveraJoe> | In theory, they /shouldn't/ melt |
07:33 | <@randolph> | Weathering~ |
07:33 | < CalaveraJoe> | But it can happen |
07:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | Totally weathering. |
07:33 | < CalaveraJoe> | Its why the surface looks different |
07:33 | <@randolph> | Dremeled microfractures |
07:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | CJ: Ctrl + B = bold; Ctrl + U = underline |
07:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mhmm, microfractures ... |
07:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | boldunderlinebold and underline. |
07:34 | <@randolph> | My client doesn't support those inputs by default |
07:34 | < CalaveraJoe> | Oooh, looks like black and red 4081b's can be had for <0.02 |
07:34 | <@randolph> | Never bothered grabbing the plugins |
07:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | I strip all formatting code. :D |
07:35 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ced23Ric: Not all IRC clients interpret them also |
07:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | Sounds like a client-side problem, then! |
07:35 | < CalaveraJoe> | Hence my / / |
07:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | Win 3.11 cannot run LDD, either |
07:35 | < Dukayn> | yeah I have to use *bold* and /italics/ |
07:35 | < Dukayn> | for my Chrome plugin |
07:35 | < Dukayn> | but Ced's formatting came up OK. |
07:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's pretty damn basic. |
07:37 | <@randolph> | Wow CJ |
07:37 | <@randolph> | Metallic Silver is only 0.30 |
07:37 | < CalaveraJoe> | droid torsos? |
07:37 | <@randolph> | Nvm, used |
07:37 | <@randolph> | new is 0.75 |
07:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | What the balls are you talking aboot? D_ |
07:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh. |
07:38 | < Dukayn> | brb, need to pee |
07:38 | | * CalaveraJoe has to wonder if his desire to order parts in 100 qty lots is a problem or not |
07:38 | <@randolph> | CJ: I think the 0.15 ones are gone |
07:38 | <@randolph> | I only see $0.25+ n ow |
07:39 | <@randolph> | Nah, I try to order more than I need, too, so I can tool around without parts limitation |
07:39 | <@randolph> | I *still* run out |
07:39 | < CalaveraJoe> | *nod* yeah |
07:39 | < CalaveraJoe> | Shockingly, I currently have an abundance of travis bricks |
07:39 | < CalaveraJoe> | but I got like 170+ with my BL orders |
07:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ha! |
07:40 | < CalaveraJoe> | >.> What? Stop looking at me like that *hoards his travis bricks* Precioussssss |
07:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | I love this. |
07:40 | <@randolph> | I used 72 just in my Terracotta company |
07:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | My roomie just texted: "Got up. #NeedsMoreCoffee" |
07:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | That guy is hilarious. |
07:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | He wakes up, and for 45 minutes, he is a ZOMBIE. |
07:40 | < CalaveraJoe> | . . . You mean everyone isn't? |
07:40 | < Dukayn> | My wife's like that |
07:41 | < Dukayn> | Without coffee, don't even TALK to her. |
07:41 | <@randolph> | I know morning people |
07:41 | < CalaveraJoe> | I mean, shit, unless the tot is screaming when he wakes me up, I'm mush for at least 30 minutes |
07:41 | <@randolph> | They have strange ways |
07:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | He makes himself coffee while leaning his forehead against the cupboard over the counter top. |
07:41 | < CalaveraJoe> | My boot time is slow as shit |
07:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | And then, he stays frozen for 5 minutes until the coffee is ready. |
07:41 | < CalaveraJoe> | Crying baby, otoh, and I wake up with fucking /ninja/ skills |
07:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | One can (!) later, he starts to talk. |
07:41 | < CalaveraJoe> | 5 minutes until coffeee is ready? eff that |
07:41 | < Dukayn> | CJ - I know what you mean |
07:41 | < CalaveraJoe> | 90 seconds for crap keurig coffee |
07:42 | < CalaveraJoe> | THEN you make the good stuff |
07:42 | < Dukayn> | OH SHIT BABY IS CRYING, YIPPIE KI YAY MOTHERFUCKER |
07:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | CJ: We have 4 Bodum French Presses. |
07:42 | < CalaveraJoe> | I have, off the top of my head, at least 8 different ways to make coffee without deviating from the standard use for the devices in question |
07:42 | <@randolph> | Heh. |
07:43 | <@randolph> | When my eldest was born, I was in the recovery room, nominally unconscious |
07:43 | < CalaveraJoe> | Keurig, Mr Coffee, two french presses, two espresso mokas, vietnamese coffee maker, and a single cup drip brewer |
07:43 | | * CalaveraJoe loves him some coffee. |
07:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mhmmmm, coffee. |
07:44 | <@randolph> | Without apparently reaching my conscious mind, I was up, around the bed, and at the crib before becoming awake due to baby crying |
07:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Randy. YOU were recovering, eh? |
07:44 | <@randolph> | Nah, my wife. |
07:44 | <@randolph> | The hospital lets the dad stay there too |
07:44 | < CalaveraJoe> | Dukayn: The only time in my life I've had greater ninja skills than when responding to middle of the night baby crying is when someone turns on the lights while I'm sleeping. I've literally leapt 6 feet across the room from a dead sleep, tackled the person AND hit the light switch in one swift move |
07:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | To recover. |
07:44 | <@randolph> | To help out while she recovers |
07:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | To recover TWICE AS FAST. |
07:45 | <@randolph> | heh |
07:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because two people recover at ONCE. |
07:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | LOAD BALANCING. |
07:45 | <@randolph> | Parallel processing! |
07:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | The recovery is soon going to switch to quad core. |
07:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | You're gonna need a parent each, too. |
07:46 | <@randolph> | That's an awkward conversation. |
07:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | Is it? |
07:46 | <@randolph> | Well. Humans aren't wired for four parents. |
07:46 | <@randolph> | Maybe if you were a Pierson's Puppeteer |
07:46 | <@randolph> | They've only got 3, but if you count the baby... |
07:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, you have a mom and a dad. So does she. |
07:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | +/- losses |
07:46 | <@randolph> | Then that'd be 6! |
07:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... I guess "+" would be weird. |
07:47 | <@randolph> | I've heard of quad and octa, but not hexcore |
07:47 | <@randolph> | That sounds like magitek |
07:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | There's Hexcores. |
07:47 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah |
07:47 | <@randolph> | weird |
07:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lots of em, actually. |
07:47 | <@randolph> | They should advertise them |
07:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | They are. |
07:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | Just not for gamers. Or consumers. |
07:47 | <@randolph> | No, I mean, like, with like, Dresden on the cover |
07:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | What. |
07:47 | <@randolph> | I'm joking. |
07:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dresden, as in the city in Saxonia..? |
07:48 | <@randolph> | As in the pulp fantasy novels |
07:48 | <@randolph> | Dresden Files |
07:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | So, uhm ... Dresden Dolls? |
07:48 | <@randolph> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dresden_Files |
07:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAnyYTjjhJ0 |
07:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | Great song. |
07:49 | <@randolph> | hehe |
07:51 | | * CalaveraJoe needs moar brick modified 1 x 1 with studs on 2 sides |
07:51 | < CalaveraJoe> | and I blame Ced23Ric |
07:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | I can take the blame. I can take it all. I am not the hero you want. I am the hero you need. |
07:52 | < CalaveraJoe> | Lozenge? |
07:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Sure. |
07:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have no idea. |
07:53 | < CalaveraJoe> | Batman, he needs a lozenge. Bad. |
07:53 | <@randolph> | have you seen how it should have ended? |
07:53 | <@randolph> | here, I'll save you the truoble |
07:54 | < CalaveraJoe> | How which one should have ended? |
07:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | I wonder whether it is odd that me and the roomies talk in English with each other. |
07:54 | <@randolph> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seBpXt8_6xs |
07:54 | <@randolph> | It's "How It Should Have Ended: The Dark Knight" |
07:54 | <@randolph> | They have a series |
07:55 | <@randolph> | (re: lozenge) |
07:55 | <@randolph> | It's worth it just for the opening in the cafe |
07:57 | < Dukayn> | The Avengers one is good too |
07:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | I just realized how sad our semi-Twitter messages are. |
07:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | It implies that I have one follower. |
07:58 | < Dukayn> | bahahahahaha |
07:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | :( |
07:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | But then again, who am I to complainß |
07:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | I am outta here in 4 hours, then I get a massage, go home and shower, only to meet a cutie on a bridge. |
07:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | First date an all. Since 2007. BIT EXCITED. |
07:59 | <@randolph> | do it out of order |
07:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | How? D: |
07:59 | <@randolph> | meet a cutie on a bridge, bring her home for a shower and massage |
08:00 | < Dukayn> | LIKE A BOSS |
08:00 | < CalaveraJoe> | The man's got a point |
08:00 | <@randolph> | For four hours |
08:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | We're gonna make a foto-love-story, with two beer bottles as the protagonists. |
08:00 | < CalaveraJoe> | ... yeah, I like randolph's idea better |
08:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | If anyone here thinks that goes over without the occasional tongue slip, raise your hand. |
08:00 | <@randolph> | aww, but his is cute |
08:00 | <@randolph> | But you know, plan B |
08:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | Plan B is to do it in reverse. |
08:01 | <@randolph> | nod |
08:01 | < Dukayn> | reverse cowgirl |
08:01 | < Dukayn> | AW YEAH |
08:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | Take the cutie from the bridge home for a shower, followed by a massage and then, 4 hours in there. |
08:01 | <@randolph> | Good man. |
08:01 | < Dukayn> | Plan B. B for BOW-CHIKA-BOW-WOW |
08:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have my priorities straight. |
08:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Longterm investments. :D |
08:02 | < Dukayn> | Just make sure she's not crazy. |
08:02 | < Dukayn> | You don't wanna stick your dick in crazy. |
08:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | I'll bounce like Flubber if she is. |
08:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Already did, numerous times. |
08:02 | < CalaveraJoe> | Well, you might, you just don't wanna hang around long |
08:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | I am in the know. |
08:03 | <@randolph> | I am amused you are being given dating advice by three dads. |
08:03 | < CalaveraJoe> | What? We clearly did it right at least one time |
08:03 | < Dukayn> | I think it's a grea plan. |
08:03 | < Dukayn> | +t |
08:03 | <@randolph> | Depends on his priorities, but sure~ |
08:04 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ooh, 131dark bley travis bricks at .29 a piece |
08:04 | <@randolph> | nooo |
08:04 | <@randolph> | I picked up some d. bley t-bricks for 0.15 recently, don't go over $0.20-25 |
08:04 | < CalaveraJoe> | *nod* |
08:04 | < CalaveraJoe> | I try not to |
08:04 | <@randolph> | Well, I mean,unless there's a sudden shortage. Again. |
08:04 | < CalaveraJoe> | I think the ones I have now, topped out at .23 |
08:04 | <@randolph> | Which there might be when the P-A crowd actually startsbuilding |
08:05 | < CalaveraJoe> | yeah |
08:05 | <@randolph> | But didn't you say you've got a hoard? |
08:05 | < CalaveraJoe> | ... and? |
08:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | The last time I stuck Major Payne here into non-crazy, I eventually ended the fuckbuddy thing to make her pursue a relationship with a different guy. |
08:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | She is still with him, going strong for almost a year after I pulled out. |
08:06 | < Dukayn> | Your penis looks like Damon Wayans? |
08:06 | < Dukayn> | I wouldn't exactly advertise that... |
08:06 | <@randolph> | nggggh |
08:06 | <@randolph> | brain |
08:06 | <@randolph> | ow |
08:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Long, hard, bald and mean? |
08:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yes. |
08:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | He sleeps with his eye open., too. |
08:06 | < CalaveraJoe> | Um, you know if he's hard and mean for more than 4 hours you should /really/ see a doctor about that |
08:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | Always ready, always prepared. *salute* |
08:07 | < CalaveraJoe> | ... ow |
08:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... I just realized what a whorish song this is. |
08:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | "I like Paris fashion show, New York, Rio, Tokyo / I like the D, I like the G / I like Louis and my V." |
08:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | Somehow I think, the subcontext is not Dolce & Gabana and Louis Vuitton. |
08:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | And she sure looks like she likes the D. |
08:09 | < Dukayn> | I have absolutely no idea what the frak you're talking about |
08:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | "I like peaches, I like cream ..." <--- Yeah. |
08:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueVFmYXrzKI |
08:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | That. |
08:12 | < CalaveraJoe> | randolph: Hell, if travis bricks ever showed up in a PAB wall, I'd be shocked if I made it out of the store with less than 6 cups full |
08:12 | < Dukayn> | I wish we had PAB here in Aus. |
08:13 | < CalaveraJoe> | There's like.. 5 within 30-40 miles of me |
08:15 | <@randolph> | well, yeah. |
08:15 | <@randolph> | I'd go and try to crash the BL travis economy if I could :p |
08:15 | <@randolph> | I mean, uh, make a giant pool of t-bricks to swim in, Scrooge McDuck style <_< |
08:15 | < CalaveraJoe> | Sadly, it'd probably be some other shop that bought you out and resold at profit |
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08:15 | <@randolph> | Hey afny |
08:16 | < Dukayn> | sup afny |
08:16 | < CalaveraJoe> | Honestly, if they ever showed up in a PAB wall, I'd hop in here and offer to pick up cup fulls for people at marginally above cost + shipping |
08:17 | <@randolph> | Yeah. I might not be able to budget cleaning them out, but I bet I could make a dent |
08:17 | < afny> | o/ |
08:17 | <@randolph> | That said... dream the impossible dream |
08:17 | < CalaveraJoe> | Here's the thing, I have no doubt I'd be able to sell 'em all |
08:17 | < CalaveraJoe> | Especially if they were in black, white, or one of the bleys |
08:19 | <@randolph> | Of course |
08:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | o/ |
08:19 | <@randolph> | But that's a lot of buckets and trips to the car |
08:19 | <@randolph> | I guess we could bring a dolly |
08:19 | < CalaveraJoe> | I guesstimated that you could probably get 750 travis bricks per large cup |
08:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | Rent a truck. |
08:19 | <@randolph> | hee, Ced, they probably only have a couple crates of the stuff |
08:20 | < CalaveraJoe> | Works out to like.. .02 a brick |
08:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh. |
08:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | They are in crates. |
08:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Right. |
08:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | But the crates. |
08:20 | <@randolph> | Right, what I meant by impossible dream: They're never going to be on a wall, and we all know it |
08:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | *Buy |
08:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | They can't be. |
08:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | it would DESTROY the BL and PAB economy. |
08:21 | < CalaveraJoe> | Nah |
08:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, or at least cause a huge dent. |
08:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | The thing is "perceived value". Right now we perceive Travis brick at a Quarter. |
08:22 | < CalaveraJoe> | Cause you'd get assholes like us buying them out, and very shortly there after they'd be sold and resold and the price would go right back up |
08:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Realistically, it is more like 1.5 cents. |
08:22 | <@randolph> | Well |
08:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Or, randy? Whaddaya think? |
08:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | You know more about such prices. :> |
08:22 | <@randolph> | It might be around 5-10 depending on QC requirements |
08:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Counterargument. |
08:22 | < CalaveraJoe> | Aroo? |
08:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | Headlights are 4 cents. |
08:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | Go on. |
08:23 | <@randolph> | yeah, that's probably about right. |
08:23 | <@randolph> | so say 4 cents |
08:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | That is 4 cents sale price (incl. margin). |
08:23 | < afny> | I hit the Rockefeller PAB today and it wasn't even that good |
08:24 | < CalaveraJoe> | afny: the PAB walls are compete crap shoots |
08:24 | <@Ced23Ric> | Did you burn the place down to express your heartfelt disappointment? |
08:24 | <@randolph> | Ced: It boils down to economy of scale |
08:24 | <@randolph> | If they automate QC because they can afford to, because they're building that many t-bricks, sure |
08:24 | < afny> | Yes, injuring countless asian tourists and little kids |
08:24 | <@randolph> | there are a *lot* of headlight bricks made |
08:25 | <@randolph> | t-bricks are less common per set, so not only is there supply driving up perceived value on the secondary market, that implies the production scale is lower |
08:25 | <@randolph> | And LEGO QC is pretty damned legendary |
08:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | Why you so racist, Kevin? :( |
08:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh. |
08:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | I wanna change the topic again. |
08:25 | <@randolph> | heh |
08:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | To something that annoyed me this morning. |
08:26 | < CalaveraJoe> | "<randolph> And LEGO QC is pretty damned legendary" Really? |
08:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | I was listening to the radio this morning, for the first time in like 5 years. |
08:26 | < afny> | I'm not racist, but white tourists don't wear color coded t-shirts |
08:26 | < afny> | so it's hard to pick them out of the crows |
08:26 | < afny> | -s +d |
08:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | And there was a call-in show, called: "Single, taken or gay?" |
08:26 | < CalaveraJoe> | afny: Also, no flags to coordinate |
08:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | A guy is asked three questions and a girl has to guess what he is, based on those questions. |
08:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dafuw issat?! |
08:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | *Dafuq |
08:27 | < afny> | really though, compared to any other toy I can think of, Lego QC Is incredible |
08:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | "How many pairs of shoes do you have?" - "A dozen to 15." - "That is a lot! Uh-oh!" |
08:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Fucking stereotype-marathon. O_o |
08:28 | < afny> | welcome to semi-scripted television. |
08:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | (Radio) |
08:28 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ced23Ric: That's a show that initiates a channel change |
08:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | CJ: Sure did. |
08:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Still annoyed me. |
08:28 | < Dukayn> | Well you wouldn't be whinging about it now if it hadn't :P |
08:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | I mean, our mayor is openly homosexual. There*s some light-hearted jokes, but people don't really give a shit. |
08:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | And the annual CSD parades happen in Berlin, too. |
08:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | But, fuck, srsly. That show was awfull. |
08:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Who greenlights such shit? |
08:30 | < afny> | Radio producers? |
08:30 | < afny> | Do people listen to the radio a lot over there? |
08:30 | < CalaveraJoe> | Here's the thing about sexuality: I don't care what anyone wants to stick where and with whom, provided it is informed and mutually consensual (the whole time, no at any time is still no) |
08:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Kev: Yeah yeah. Especially in Berlin. |
08:31 | < afny> | I guess it might be big in big cities here, too |
08:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | CJ: Agreed. |
08:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | Like, I don't give a damn where person A puts his or her appendages. |
08:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | As long as it's not me or I consented first. |
08:32 | <@randolph> | re: Who greenlighted that - well, the market gets what the market wants. We have this thing over here called Jersey Shore |
08:32 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah. Ultimately the problem isn't something being made, it's something staying the hell on the air |
08:35 | < CalaveraJoe> | So the real problem is the mountain of mouth breathing douchenozzles who keep tuning in |
08:36 | < afny> | I have less of a problem with people who watch Jersey Shore than I do with people listening to Limbaugh |
08:36 | < afny> | I mean, reality tv is whatever, it's just like...gristle |
08:38 | < CalaveraJoe> | Okay. Ate dinner too damn early, now I'm starving, and I should ponder sleeping cause I've got a crapton of stuff to do tomorrow before we head out for the wedding |
08:38 | < CalaveraJoe> | later folks |
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08:44 | < Dukayn> | I'mma go have some dinner and try to stop the wife continuing to be pissy. |
08:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have a such a girly moment right now. |
08:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | The guy who taught me how to cook and lived with me for two years might be moving back to Berlin. |
09:05 | < afny> | sleep now |
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09:17 | <@Soren> | Sounds like a good time. |
09:17 | <@Soren> | I'm looking at weird parts for Ijad religious architecture. |
09:17 | < Dukayn> | hey Soren |
09:17 | <@Soren> | hey. |
09:31 | < Dukayn> | OK, dinner and TV time. |
09:31 | < Dukayn> | l8rz |
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17:42 | < FreefallGeek> | Hola. |
17:45 | < huhwhozat> | bonjour |
17:46 | < FreefallGeek> | Anyone in here an administrator on Mobile Frame Hanger? |
17:46 | < FreefallGeek> | I tried registering for the forums but unfortunately the registration email isn't reaching my inbox. |
17:56 | < huhwhozat> | You'll need to get in touch with schoon, I think (I'm also a newbie here), but Soren might be able to help you reach him. Try a direct chat to him. |
18:52 | < FreefallGeek> | In the mean-time, perhaps someone here can help me out. |
18:53 | < FreefallGeek> | I don't own any Legos. But I'm big on wargaming (40k, Heroclix) and seeing this game made me miss the massive amount I had when I was a kid, and I think it's something I'd like to get into with my son. But the posts all seem to indicate that building mecha requires the use of certain "special, hard to obtain blocks" like Travis blocks, T blocks, etc. I have no idea what any of those are. Where |
18:53 | < FreefallGeek> | would be a good place to start obtaining a crapton of Legos and also these special blocks so I can start building frames? |
18:55 | < huhwhozat> | I'm not really the right one to answer this, but the consensus seems to be settled around bricklink |
18:55 | < huhwhozat> | the site is NOT friendly to use, but you can generally find good deals |
18:58 | < huhwhozat> | Other alternatives are LEGO stores and their Pick-A-Brick wall (though it seems you can't easily find the special bricks there), Pick-A-Brick from the LEGO store online which generally is just a little more expensive than Bricklink, and buying sets with the parts you need/want. |
19:00 | < huhwhozat> | MY advice would be to go to bricklink if you want a lot of something as that'll maximize your savings. If you're just looking for a few special bricks, online PAB might be a good bet (buying in bulk from them gets expensive fast), and if you're going for sets, prefer buying multiple of one small set over one large set as you'll get a higher concentration of useful parts |
19:08 | < FreefallGeek> | What are good sets for building mechs? |
19:08 | < FreefallGeek> | And what are the "three t" blocks? Travis, T, and something else? What are those exactly? |
19:09 | < huhwhozat> | hold on... |
19:11 | < huhwhozat> | Travis: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4733, Tap: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4599, T-bar or T-piece: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4697b |
19:11 | < huhwhozat> | I've got to go grab some lunch, bbl... |
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19:26 | < Malcolm> | This little discussion: http://www.flickr.com/groups/438009@N25/discuss/72157629651731641/ |
19:26 | < Malcolm> | Might give an indication of useful sets |
19:27 | < Malcolm> | If you can polke around and find the parts lists for the mobile frame garage, that might be a good place to start |
19:27 | < Malcolm> | http://mobileframezero.wikia.com/wiki/MF0_Garage_Kit |
19:31 | < Malcolm> | "Polke around"? What on earth would that even mean? Poke around, maybe |
19:41 | < FreefallGeek> | :) |
19:42 | < FreefallGeek> | Thanks you two. I've been drifting in and out as work allows. Nice to come back to so much thoughful help. |
19:59 | < huhwhozat> | Malcolm: polka around? |
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20:09 | < FreefallGeek> | So should I just go to walmart and buy a shit-ton of legos? :) |
20:29 | < huhwhozat> | if you're not too attached to your money, sure :D |
20:30 | < huhwhozat> | but buy the small sets |
20:31 | < huhwhozat> | 3-5x a small set with good parts will get you a fair amount more useful pieces than a larger set for the same total price |
20:31 | < huhwhozat> | first, browse the frame designs on flickr and the forums, and try putting some together in LDD or MLCAD |
20:31 | < FreefallGeek> | Are there specific set "product lines" that are better? ie I assume starwars is a better choice than the medieval sets |
20:31 | < huhwhozat> | this will give you a good idea what to look for in terms of pieces |
20:32 | < huhwhozat> | yeah, starwars is good imo |
20:32 | < huhwhozat> | you can also go on bricklink and look at what sets are available and what parts they have |
20:32 | < FreefallGeek> | I downloaded LDD earlier but I noticed something strange. I downloaded a .ldd file someone had posted and the legs weren't attached and I couldn't figure out how to attach them. |
20:33 | < huhwhozat> | LDD doesn't recognize some connections that are physically possible |
20:33 | < huhwhozat> | so yeah, they sometimes have to be seperate in the digital medium |
20:33 | < huhwhozat> | afaik, MLCAD is better at that, but I haven't used it |
20:35 | < FreefallGeek> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/31146427@N02/7161589159/in/set-72157629901492370 |
20:35 | < FreefallGeek> | That wallpaper there has the joints attached, but I don't know how he created that wallpaper |
20:35 | < FreefallGeek> | the LDD he posts is the one where the legs wont connect |
20:35 | < FreefallGeek> | :-P |
20:35 | < huhwhozat> | I got this set the other day, and it has 95 - 97% useful pieces, as long as your colors are orange and black :P |
20:36 | < huhwhozat> | can you link to the LDD file? |
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20:36 | < huhwhozat> | afny! :) |
20:36 | < FreefallGeek> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Seraph%20Paladin.lxf |
20:36 | < afny> | o/ |
20:36 | < huhwhozat> | ty |
20:37 | < FreefallGeek> | Actually orange/black are probably going to be my colors. ;) Black/green was my other choice. |
20:37 | < huhwhozat> | nice :D |
20:37 | < FreefallGeek> | what set was that? |
20:37 | < afny> | Wait...are you Dukayn? |
20:38 | < afny> | Your name CONFUSES me |
20:38 | < huhwhozat> | oh yeah, LDD doesn't like to do tap-clip connections at certain angles |
20:38 | < huhwhozat> | no, that's not Dukayn |
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20:38 | < FreefallGeek> | Me? No! I was just talking to huhwhozat about that specific frame. |
20:38 | < huhwhozat> | ^ that |
20:38 | < FreefallGeek> | And why LDD hates it's leg connections so. |
20:38 | <+MittenNinja> | sup fellas? |
20:38 | < afny> | I figured at first, but then with the orange and black |
20:38 | < FreefallGeek> | Mitten, hola! |
20:38 | < afny> | those are also his colors |
20:39 | < afny> | hey Mitten |
20:39 | < FreefallGeek> | Mitten I saw your convention flickr photos. Looks like you had fun. |
20:39 | <+MittenNinja> | sup freefall, I don't believe ive seen you here before |
20:39 | < FreefallGeek> | I'm new. |
20:39 | <+MittenNinja> | oh yeah, it was a blast |
20:39 | < huhwhozat> | Mitten! :) |
20:39 | <+MittenNinja> | well welcome! |
20:40 | < FreefallGeek> | Thanks! I'm in here picking people's brains about how to go from zero legos to three companies in the most efficient manner. :) |
20:40 | <+MittenNinja> | bricklink |
20:40 | <+MittenNinja> | by a longshot |
20:40 | <+MittenNinja> | or you can comission me to build them for you :p |
20:40 | < FreefallGeek> | Har-har. ;) |
20:41 | < huhwhozat> | actually... how much do you charge, mitten? |
20:41 | < FreefallGeek> | I'm trying to use this as an excuse to play with legos again. |
20:41 | < huhwhozat> | yay! :) |
20:41 | < afny> | if you want an excuse to play with legos |
20:41 | < afny> | you don't want to be efficient |
20:41 | < afny> | you want to cover surfaces with bricks and tinker endlessly. |
20:41 | < afny> | WAY more fun that way. |
20:41 | < huhwhozat> | ^ true |
20:41 | <+MittenNinja> | depends on the size of the company and how much custom work you want done |
20:41 | < huhwhozat> | but also way more $ |
20:42 | < afny> | depends if you have a lot of lego already |
20:42 | <+MittenNinja> | and color scheme, piece usage, etc |
20:42 | < FreefallGeek> | Haha. That's very true. But I also don't want to end up with a bunch of pieces that I'll never use (aka ninjago sets) |
20:42 | < FreefallGeek> | Mitten: What do you mean by custom work? |
20:42 | < afny> | What I did was sort out as much useful stuff from my childhood collection as I could bear to sift through |
20:42 | < afny> | anything 1x1 |
20:42 | < afny> | little fiddly bits |
20:43 | <+MittenNinja> | if you want me to design completely custom frame designs, as in something completely unique. |
20:43 | < afny> | then I ordered just the basic connection bits I was missing from bricklink |
20:43 | < huhwhozat> | Mitten: sidechannel |
20:43 | <+MittenNinja> | if you want modded chubs, for example, itd be cheaper |
20:43 | < FreefallGeek> | afny: Sadly my massive childhood lego collection is long gone. |
20:44 | < afny> | :_: |
20:44 | < afny> | I have little advice, then, other than to read Soren's bricklinking guide in the new draft |
20:44 | < huhwhozat> | yes, definitely do |
20:44 | < huhwhozat> | and use wishlists! |
20:44 | < FreefallGeek> | Yeah. I think I'm going to build a company in LDD to know what connections I need. |
20:44 | < afny> | oh, and always order more 1x1 plates (round and square) than you think you'll need. |
20:44 | < huhwhozat> | Freefall: good plan |
20:44 | < afny> | I could never do that, but if it works for you |
20:44 | < FreefallGeek> | And then buy 5x more of those connections than I plan to use. |
20:44 | < FreefallGeek> | afny: why is that? |
20:45 | < afny> | just make sure the parts you use in LDD are actually available in the colors you want |
20:45 | < afny> | I hate LDD |
20:45 | < huhwhozat> | afny: for what reasons? |
20:45 | < afny> | but even when I had no taps or whatever, I preferred just building with what I had |
20:45 | < afny> | if you have no bricks, it's a good solution |
20:45 | < afny> | it's just not for me |
20:45 | < afny> | I think it's badly made, for one |
20:46 | < afny> | but even if it wasn't, even if it was a well thought out CAD program, I wouldn't use it, just because I don't think it's as fun as playing with plastic |
20:46 | < afny> | it's really just personal opinion |
20:46 | < FreefallGeek> | So when you all bought the "three t" pieces, how many did you buy? |
20:47 | < afny> | I think I bought around 30 travis bricks |
20:47 | < afny> | I had about 10 in my collection prior? |
20:47 | < afny> | and Cedric gifted me...12? or maybe more |
20:47 | < huhwhozat> | hmm, I agree that it's not as fun, but I think it is well designed |
20:47 | < afny> | It doesn't let you make your own lists/categories of parts |
20:47 | < afny> | that's my major gripe |
20:48 | < afny> | I also just don't plan my projects out in advance as much as some people |
20:48 | < afny> | like I said, mostly preference. |
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20:48 | < afny> | Curry and waffles weren't the best combination |
20:49 | < huhwhozat> | hahaha |
20:49 | < huhwhozat> | well, since I don't have many brick available at the moment, LDD is my goto |
20:50 | <+MittenNinja> | always order more parts than you think you'll need. |
20:50 | <+MittenNinja> | otherwise you wont have as many as you need |
20:51 | <+MittenNinja> | I've run out of lampholders, taps, clip plates, and t-pieces enough where I just went onto bricklink and was like "I'll take 200" |
20:52 | < afny> | I bought probably 300 clip tiles yesterday |
20:52 | < afny> | because I do that all the time |
20:52 | < afny> | with clip tiles |
20:52 | < huhwhozat> | out of curiousity, how many companies do you have sitting around assembled? (anyone) |
20:52 | < afny> | four |
20:52 | <+MittenNinja> | luckily my local lego store had dark bley tile clips |
20:52 | < afny> | yeah, that's where I got mine |
20:52 | <+MittenNinja> | I bought a whole big cup of them |
20:52 | < afny> | wow |
20:52 | < afny> | mine is like 1/8th of a layer near the top of a big cup |
20:52 | < afny> | so not that much |
20:52 | <+MittenNinja> | I wont run out any time soon |
20:53 | < afny> | but I also got some from randolph when his wall had them |
20:53 | <+MittenNinja> | ah |
20:53 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah i barely had any bley ones before that |
20:53 | <+MittenNinja> | I have two full companies built that aren't going to get pulled apart |
20:53 | < afny> | I was really hoping they'd have a grey or black 1x1 round plate |
20:53 | <+MittenNinja> | and then i off and on have about three more |
20:53 | < huhwhozat> | hmmm, we should set up a parts-share system to make the most of PAB |
20:53 | < afny> | so I could FINALLY replace all the orange ones in the center of my VoP company |
20:53 | < afny> | but nope |
20:53 | < afny> | only lime and orange. |
20:54 | <+MittenNinja> | then again, if you include the frames for my chess set comission, you can add about 4 more to that total |
20:58 | < FreefallGeek> | What are clip tiles? |
20:58 | < afny> | they're the clips that have prongs facing up |
20:58 | < afny> | they're 1x1, they don't have a stud |
20:58 | < FreefallGeek> | having a hard time visualizing that |
20:59 | < FreefallGeek> | googling |
20:59 | < afny> | I could've linked you to bricklink but my brain |
20:59 | < afny> | it doesn't do things. |
20:59 | < FreefallGeek> | gotcha |
20:59 | < huhwhozat> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=2555 |
20:59 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=2555 |
21:00 | < FreefallGeek> | how many of those do you go through in a company? |
21:00 | < afny> | depends on the company |
21:00 | < huhwhozat> | question: how does the piece linked above compare to this one: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=93794 in terms of connection friction |
21:00 | < afny> | dunno, not sure if I have any of that second one |
21:00 | < huhwhozat> | yeah, I'd not seen it irl |
21:00 | < afny> | Freefall, one of my companies uses very few travis bricks |
21:00 | < afny> | it uses a lot more clip tiles |
21:01 | < afny> | they're pretty important even in Soren's main SC builds though |
21:02 | < afny> | the Chub uses six |
21:02 | < afny> | a scrambler uses five |
21:02 | < FreefallGeek> | I figure if I buy all of my connectors in black, I can just by the flat (what I consider smooth tile) pieces in my decorative colors and I should be good right? |
21:02 | < FreefallGeek> | *buy |
21:02 | <+MittenNinja> | thats how i started out |
21:03 | < afny> | I was cheap, so a lot of my guts are light bley |
21:03 | <+MittenNinja> | the iguanas are all black except for the cheese slopes and tiles |
21:03 | < afny> | I always found taps to be much cheaper in bley, for instance |
21:03 | <+MittenNinja> | really? |
21:03 | <+MittenNinja> | i guess i never looked |
21:03 | < afny> | might've just been the four stores I was buying from |
21:04 | < afny> | I only have ten black taps |
21:04 | < afny> | really sucks for making guns |
21:04 | < afny> | I'll get more eventually. |
21:04 | < FreefallGeek> | I dont mind dropping a bit of money on a hobby, I just don't want to buy a bunch of stuff I won't use. |
21:04 | < FreefallGeek> | and I love me some wargames. |
21:04 | < FreefallGeek> | I've got a few grand in heroclix and another few grand in 40k. |
21:04 | < afny> | if you actually get into it, you'll probably break down your companies and rebuild them enough times to make all the parts you get worthwhile |
21:04 | < FreefallGeek> | But when I found a wargame that lets me play with Legos? Sold. |
21:05 | < FreefallGeek> | Hey huhwhozat, that picture I linked you: what are the pieces clipped onto the shoulders? They're angled in almost a diamond patern but are flat and clip on |
21:06 | < huhwhozat> | hold on |
21:07 | <+MittenNinja> | afny: absolutely |
21:07 | < huhwhozat> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=44676 |
21:07 | <+MittenNinja> | even my "finished" companies still change slightly |
21:07 | < huhwhozat> | I think that's the part |
21:09 | < FreefallGeek> | You're looking at the black one, I'm talking about the red "armor" on his shoulders. :) |
21:10 | < FreefallGeek> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/31146427@N02/7161589159/in/set-72157629901492370 |
21:11 | <+MittenNinja> | those are minifig shields |
21:12 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=48494 |
21:12 | <+MittenNinja> | to be exact |
21:12 | < huhwhozat> | that |
21:12 | < afny> | wow |
21:12 | < afny> | those are sweet |
21:13 | <+MittenNinja> | i used some on one of my old builds |
21:13 | < huhwhozat> | I spent about 2 hours going through almost every category in bricklink, wishlisting things I might want :) |
21:13 | < FreefallGeek> | those are cool |
21:13 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/6889954808/in/photostream |
21:13 | <+MittenNinja> | the guy in fron |
21:13 | <+MittenNinja> | t |
21:13 | < FreefallGeek> | And sadly there are none in black |
21:14 | < FreefallGeek> | actually |
21:14 | < FreefallGeek> | according to bricklink they're not made in red |
21:14 | < FreefallGeek> | are we certain that's what that is? |
21:14 | <+MittenNinja> | it is |
21:14 | < afny> | it's an LDD render |
21:14 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
21:14 | < afny> | colors aren't guaranteed to be accurate |
21:14 | <+MittenNinja> | you cna make anything any color in ldd |
21:14 | < afny> | that's what I meant about make sure your pieces actually come in the right colors |
21:15 | < afny> | when using LDD to plan a build |
21:16 | < FreefallGeek> | So besides the three t connectors, any super-secret blocks I need to make sure I have lots of |
21:16 | < FreefallGeek> | or ones that i wont get in random lego sets |
21:17 | <+MittenNinja> | travis bricks come in super handy |
21:17 | <+MittenNinja> | ummm... |
21:17 | <+MittenNinja> | pretty much any modified 1x1 or 1x2 plate |
21:17 | <+MittenNinja> | droid torsos |
21:17 | <+MittenNinja> | headlights |
21:18 | <+MittenNinja> | 1x1 round plates are super useful |
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21:18 | <+MittenNinja> | SOREN |
21:18 | <+MittenNinja> | whats up ma |
21:18 | <+MittenNinja> | +n |
21:19 | < FreefallGeek> | I saw lots of photos of items that looked like chainguns. |
21:19 | <+MittenNinja> | usally just a technic rod with |
21:19 | < FreefallGeek> | Are those actual pieces or are they just made with four bars. |
21:19 | <+MittenNinja> | one of the end caps on it |
21:20 | <+MittenNinja> | or were you thinking of these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7424291330/in/photostream |
21:21 | < afny> | I think you're still the only one to do that |
21:21 | < afny> | they are cool, but large |
21:22 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah they are big |
21:24 | <+MittenNinja> | another technique is to attach lightsaber blades to binoculars |
21:25 | <+MittenNinja> | but again, those end up being pretty big |
21:25 | < afny> | you mean four binocs? |
21:25 | < afny> | or just one |
21:25 | < afny> | I've seen randolph do that without lightsaber blades for a gatling hand look |
21:25 | < FreefallGeek> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/11263807@N04/7681501824/in/pool-438009@N25/lightbox / |
21:26 | < FreefallGeek> | in the back, on the left |
21:26 | < FreefallGeek> | also, where do they get those like back center |
21:26 | < FreefallGeek> | *those axes |
21:27 | < afny> | urgh, he really needs to cover up those exposed t joints on the wallop on the left |
21:27 | < afny> | um, it looks like that gatling in the back is just an axle with stud connection shoved into the end of a round 1x1 brick |
21:28 | < afny> | with a technic fiddly bit (don't know any technic terms) around it |
21:28 | < afny> | that technic axle is the go to gatling piece |
21:28 | < FreefallGeek> | is technic different then lego? |
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21:28 | < afny> | they're both made by TLG |
21:28 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah its the technic axle |
21:28 | < afny> | technic is compatible for the most part |
21:28 | < afny> | it's just different stuff |
21:28 | <+MittenNinja> | its just a different type of lego |
21:29 | < afny> | same quality plastic and all |
21:29 | <+MittenNinja> | you can still use it all with normal lego |
21:29 | <+MittenNinja> | its usually used for more mechanical/technical (hence the name) models |
21:29 | < FreefallGeek> | Where do those axes come from? |
21:30 | <+MittenNinja> | they're for minifigs |
21:30 | <+MittenNinja> | not sure what sets |
21:30 | <+MittenNinja> | the axe blade is a seperate piece |
21:30 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=53705 |
21:30 | <+MittenNinja> | then just snap that onto a rod |
21:31 | < afny> | the smaller axe that wallop has is one piece |
21:31 | < afny> | but I don't know anything about it |
21:31 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
21:31 | <+MittenNinja> | its from the LotR sets |
21:31 | <+MittenNinja> | i think |
21:32 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=94158f |
21:33 | < FreefallGeek> | What are the pieces call that are smooth on top? looks like I'll need a lot of those |
21:33 | <+MittenNinja> | tiles? |
21:33 | < afny> | I like this Mercutio guy |
21:33 | < afny> | and yeah, tiles |
21:33 | < afny> | I just got a handful of them in LIME |
21:33 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah, he's been watching for awhile |
21:33 | <+MittenNinja> | just started building after i pulled him over from deviantart |
21:33 | < FreefallGeek> | Where are you seeing his stuff? |
21:34 | <+MittenNinja> | wait no |
21:34 | <+MittenNinja> | nvm |
21:34 | <+MittenNinja> | thought you were talking about marcus |
21:34 | < afny> | I like his builds |
21:34 | < afny> | I was talking about Mercutio's posts, though |
21:34 | < afny> | dunno if I've seen many of his builds |
21:35 | < afny> | it really wasn't relevant at all to what we were talking about :P |
21:35 | < FreefallGeek> | Are there any "big" sets that have a bunch of tiles, slopes, etc in useful colors? Something for someone who has no legos to get a hefty amount of them to start experimenting |
21:36 | <+MittenNinja> | eh |
21:36 | < afny> | I dunno if this is always true, but I think you very rarely get your money's worth with sets, and even less with big sets |
21:36 | <+MittenNinja> | not particularly |
21:36 | <+MittenNinja> | yea |
21:36 | < afny> | especially if you only want to build robots |
21:36 | < afny> | better to just get good at shopping bricklink and hit your local lego stores |
21:36 | <+MittenNinja> | honestly your best bet is to bricklink what you need |
21:36 | < FreefallGeek> | I dont have any local lego stores, sadly. |
21:37 | < afny> | garage sales are good, too, if you live in a high pop. area |
21:37 | <+MittenNinja> | more reason to use bricklink |
21:39 | < FreefallGeek> | Fess up, what's the average amount you spend on bricklink for one purchase? ;) |
21:39 | < FreefallGeek> | My shopping cart price is already skyrocketing. |
21:39 | < afny> | I've only done it once, and spent about 55 |
21:39 | < afny> | but I had to painstakingly cut it down from near 100 |
21:39 | < afny> | it took forever. |
21:42 | <+MittenNinja> | recently? between 30 and 70 bucks |
21:42 | < huhwhozat> | Mitten, you were the one who spray-painted those sand green round 2x2's right? |
21:42 | < huhwhozat> | what paint did you use for that? |
21:42 | <+MittenNinja> | i used vinyl dye not paint |
21:42 | <+MittenNinja> | paint doesnt work to well |
21:42 | < huhwhozat> | ah |
21:43 | < huhwhozat> | how'd you go about getting it in Lego colors? |
21:43 | <+MittenNinja> | i didnt :) |
21:43 | <+MittenNinja> | its "moss green" used for the interior of a 69 camero |
21:44 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7190094893/in/photostream |
21:44 | <+MittenNinja> | the one on the right is the lego sand green |
21:44 | <+MittenNinja> | the others are dyed |
21:44 | <+MittenNinja> | they're close, but not the same |
21:45 | < huhwhozat> | ahhh I see |
21:47 | < huhwhozat> | where'd you shop for that. Online? Auto stores? |
21:48 | <+MittenNinja> | online is probably your best bet |
21:48 | < huhwhozat> | I just want to get an idea of what's available |
21:48 | <+MittenNinja> | although you have to be careful to make sure you're getting vinyl dye and not vinyl paint |
21:48 | <+MittenNinja> | i havent been able to find a place locally that sells it |
21:48 | <+MittenNinja> | you might have better luck tough |
21:48 | <+MittenNinja> | *though |
21:49 | < FreefallGeek> | Mitten: What design program do you prefer? |
21:49 | < FreefallGeek> | LDD or something else? |
21:49 | < huhwhozat> | I'm getting some results on amazon. looks like VHT mostly? |
21:49 | <+MittenNinja> | if you have an auto shop that specializes in classic muscle cars you might be able to find some |
21:49 | <+MittenNinja> | Freefall: physical bricks :p |
21:49 | < afny> | high five |
21:49 | < FreefallGeek> | :-P I don't have any of those. |
21:50 | < FreefallGeek> | There really just needs to be a "10 of everything" button on bricklink. |
21:50 | < afny> | ten isn't enough |
21:50 | < afny> | IT ISN'T ENOUGH. |
21:50 | <+MittenNinja> | i'll use ldd on occasion to check if something works or to show someone a concept of a build when i havent ordered pieces yet |
21:50 | <+MittenNinja> | but otherwise i build with bricks |
21:50 | <+MittenNinja> | 10 is enought for maybe 2 frames |
21:50 | <+MittenNinja> | MAYBE |
21:51 | < FreefallGeek> | There's no way I'm getting out of this for less than a few hundred then. |
21:51 | < FreefallGeek> | Damn you all. |
21:51 | < FreefallGeek> | Your shiny flikr photos have given me the "must by legos" bug. |
21:51 | <+MittenNinja> | huhwhozat: this is what i got http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/store/product/16971/Camaro-Vinyl-dye-12oz-can -moss-green-69/ |
21:51 | < FreefallGeek> | I blame you. |
21:52 | <+MittenNinja> | blame josh, vincent, and soren |
21:52 | <+MittenNinja> | it's all their fault |
21:53 | < FreefallGeek> | And penny arcade. |
21:53 | < huhwhozat> | cool, thanks |
21:53 | < FreefallGeek> | If it hadn't been for them, I wouldn't have stumbled upon this game. |
21:54 | < afny> | same |
21:54 | < FreefallGeek> | Mitten: How many conventions have you run this at? |
21:55 | <+MittenNinja> | Just one so far |
21:55 | <+MittenNinja> | at this point I'm meeting up with people in the area and playing at local game shops to get some exposure for the game |
21:55 | < FreefallGeek> | Have you run other games at conventions? |
21:56 | <+MittenNinja> | nope, first time :) |
21:56 | < FreefallGeek> | How was it? Nerve-wracking? |
21:56 | <+MittenNinja> | not really. If anything it was busy. |
21:56 | <+MittenNinja> | on one day I almost didnt have time to go get something to eat |
21:56 | < FreefallGeek> | awesome. |
21:57 | < FreefallGeek> | People reacted well to a wargame played with legos? :) |
21:57 | <+MittenNinja> | the table cleared for a minute and i was like "if i dont pack up and get food now, i never will" |
21:57 | <+MittenNinja> | well, youre here because someone told you about a lego tabletop wargame didnt you? |
21:58 | < FreefallGeek> | Absolutely. Then again I'm a nutcase. |
21:58 | <+MittenNinja> | pretty much everyone appreciates lego |
21:58 | < FreefallGeek> | Indeed. |
21:58 | <+MittenNinja> | even if someone had no interest in the game they stopped by to ask what is was and check out the lego mechs doing battle on the table |
21:58 | < FreefallGeek> | Very cool. |
21:59 | <+MittenNinja> | i had to put up a sign the second day because almost everyone who walked by kept asking me "what is this?" while i was trying to teach people how to play |
21:59 | < FreefallGeek> | So have many other people been running this game at cons or are you leading the game promotion charge |
21:59 | <+MittenNinja> | josh has run some stuff out on the east coast |
21:59 | <+MittenNinja> | im sure they'll be at pax prime |
21:59 | <+MittenNinja> | and there are some people doing some MFZ related stuff out at gencon |
22:00 | <+MittenNinja> | but as far as I know, im the only one doing anything near the rockies |
22:00 | < afny> | I know Malcom did a con, too |
22:00 | < afny> | but I don't know where |
22:00 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah, hes in the UK |
22:00 | < afny> | Con-nnection or something |
22:00 | <+MittenNinja> | north of Lancaster i believe? |
22:00 | < FreefallGeek> | Where are you based at Mitten? |
22:00 | <+MittenNinja> | denver |
22:01 | < FreefallGeek> | I lived in colorado springs for a while |
22:01 | <+MittenNinja> | nice! |
22:01 | < FreefallGeek> | well, at the academy, but near the springs |
22:01 | <+MittenNinja> | where are you now? |
22:01 | < FreefallGeek> | Oklahoma. |
22:01 | <+MittenNinja> | ah |
22:01 | <+MittenNinja> | you should make sure to come up to the denver comiccon next year |
22:01 | <+MittenNinja> | its gonna be HUGE |
22:01 | < FreefallGeek> | I can probably swing that, actually. |
22:01 | < FreefallGeek> | Is that June? |
22:02 | <+MittenNinja> | it was fathers day weekend this year |
22:02 | <+MittenNinja> | not sure if they'll keep that the same next year though |
22:03 | <+MittenNinja> | this year was the first year they've done it |
22:03 | <+MittenNinja> | pulled in over 20,000 attendees |
22:03 | <+MittenNinja> | second biggest opening con in history |
22:03 | <+MittenNinja> | theyve already booked Stan Lee for next year |
22:03 | < FreefallGeek> | very cool |
22:03 | < huhwhozat> | do you know who to ask about the GenCon events? That's in my area |
22:04 | <+MittenNinja> | theres a thread on the forums about it somewhere |
22:04 | | * huhwhozat goes off to serach |
22:04 | <+MittenNinja> | DeathZero is the guy you want to talk to though |
22:04 | < FreefallGeek> | mitten in those flickr photos are all of those your companies? |
22:04 | <+MittenNinja> | he's based in Indy |
22:04 | <+MittenNinja> | Freefall: yep |
22:05 | < FreefallGeek> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7382274226/in/set-72157630140524298/lig htbox/ |
22:05 | < FreefallGeek> | I love that beige guy in the background |
22:05 | < huhwhozat> | yeah I've talked to Death some |
22:05 | < FreefallGeek> | with that sick rifle |
22:05 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7363059946/in/photostream these guys? |
22:05 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah they're one of my avoriter |
22:05 | < FreefallGeek> | yep |
22:06 | <+MittenNinja> | wow... *favorites |
22:06 | < FreefallGeek> | Can I ask a critical question? |
22:06 | <+MittenNinja> | sure |
22:06 | < FreefallGeek> | Why do you leave that one plate on the arm where you can see the interior |
22:06 | < FreefallGeek> | wouldnt a flat tile look better there? |
22:07 | <+MittenNinja> | you mean on the shoulder? |
22:07 | < FreefallGeek> | yeah |
22:07 | <+MittenNinja> | thats there to hold the net on |
22:08 | < FreefallGeek> | ah. Gotcha |
22:08 | <+MittenNinja> | if i put that flush against the shoulder it wouldnt stay |
22:08 | < FreefallGeek> | the net is awesome |
22:08 | < FreefallGeek> | looks like a mecha guilli suit |
22:08 | < huhwhozat> | agreed :) |
22:08 | <+MittenNinja> | thats the idea :) |
22:08 | < FreefallGeek> | really nice. |
22:09 | < FreefallGeek> | Ah, i just saw that in the description |
22:09 | < FreefallGeek> | so thats actually your defense dice? |
22:09 | < FreefallGeek> | lol |
22:09 | < FreefallGeek> | really cool |
22:09 | < FreefallGeek> | and damn you again *tries to find net on bricklink* |
22:09 | <+MittenNinja> | the nets are lego as well |
22:09 | <+MittenNinja> | just type net in the search bar |
22:10 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=71155 |
22:10 | < FreefallGeek> | so Soren built those Fat Snakes? |
22:10 | < FreefallGeek> | Do you know Soren irl or something"? |
22:11 | <+MittenNinja> | he just moved out of denver to malaysia |
22:11 | <+MittenNinja> | i met him through MFZ |
22:11 | < FreefallGeek> | how long has this mfz thing been around? |
22:11 | <+MittenNinja> | the company was a reward for one of the kickstarter levels |
22:11 | <+MittenNinja> | as mfz? about 6 months. |
22:12 | <+MittenNinja> | before that there was mechaton |
22:12 | <+MittenNinja> | i gave him some direction for the build i wanted and he threw them together. |
22:12 | < FreefallGeek> | what are those small pieces on either side of the eye |
22:12 | < FreefallGeek> | those are really cool |
22:13 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=49668 |
22:13 | < huhwhozat> | oh no, please don't overuse the teeth :P |
22:13 | < huhwhozat> | they're great, in SMALL QUANTITIES |
22:13 | < FreefallGeek> | Lies. |
22:13 | < huhwhozat> | (like the fat snakes) |
22:14 | < FreefallGeek> | *orders 600* |
22:14 | <+MittenNinja> | the MgN versions use like 8 |
22:14 | < afny> | I've started to use them as feet in hardsuits |
22:14 | <+MittenNinja> | yeha, they work well there |
22:14 | < afny> | I don't have nearly enough of them |
22:15 | < FreefallGeek> | It makes me sad when I realize even a basic 1x1 with a clip is 5 cents |
22:15 | < huhwhozat> | yeah, I must say I don't like them on the back of th MgN :P |
22:15 | < huhwhozat> | personal pref. tho |
22:15 | < afny> | that seems a little high, but I might be wrong |
22:15 | < afny> | look at different stores/colors |
22:15 | < afny> | I feel like I bought them for three cents |
22:16 | < FreefallGeek> | how many did you buy |
22:16 | < FreefallGeek> | see this is the problem im running into |
22:16 | < FreefallGeek> | I look at just the 1x1 and 1x2 |
22:16 | < FreefallGeek> | and there are a hundred different configurations |
22:16 | < FreefallGeek> | lol |
22:16 | < FreefallGeek> | If I bought 20 of all of them |
22:16 | <+MittenNinja> | dont buy 20 of all of them |
22:16 | < huhwhozat> | afny, how long have you been involved with MF0? |
22:16 | <+MittenNinja> | buy these |
22:16 | < afny> | uhh, since the second time tycho posted about it I think |
22:17 | < afny> | when he posted the first rules draft |
22:17 | < afny> | I had looked at the kickstarter and stuff the first time he posted it, but I didn't get into it until the draft. |
22:17 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=6019 |
22:17 | < afny> | and I dunno, I bought probably 20-30 light bley vertical clip plates, but that's something that i had a lot of to start with |
22:17 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=4081b |
22:17 | < afny> | in black |
22:17 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=4085d |
22:17 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=2540 |
22:18 | < afny> | yeah, that's the meat |
22:18 | <+MittenNinja> | everything else as far as mod plates go is more or less situational |
22:21 | < huhwhozat> | what's the diff between http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4085b and http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4085d ? |
22:21 | < FreefallGeek> | what pieces did you use to make that ruler on the flikr? |
22:21 | < huhwhozat> | U clip cs. O clip? |
22:21 | < huhwhozat> | which means? |
22:21 | <+MittenNinja> | slight variation in the shaoe of the clip |
22:21 | <+MittenNinja> | Shape* |
22:22 | <+MittenNinja> | the O clips are the newer ones, and in my experience hold a bit better |
22:22 | <+MittenNinja> | but they all work |
22:22 | < FreefallGeek> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7180443105/in/photostream/ |
22:22 | < FreefallGeek> | that chestpiece in the middle is sick |
22:23 | <+MittenNinja> | the ruler is made of these http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=30387 |
22:23 | < huhwhozat> | thanks Mitten |
22:23 | <+MittenNinja> | np |
22:23 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah thats a pretty standard chestpiece for the chub |
22:24 | < FreefallGeek> | So what do you remove from the bot when, say, your High Mobility Legs are destroyed? |
22:25 | <+MittenNinja> | the 2x2 plates on the side of the legs |
22:26 | <+MittenNinja> | chest piece comes off for the armor |
22:26 | <+MittenNinja> | gun and pile bunker for the weapons |
22:26 | < afny> | I can never do the chest piece for armor thing, but apparently it's standard |
22:27 | < afny> | I feel like it's not believable as a cockpit anymore if you remove that piece |
22:27 | <+MittenNinja> | i always think of the pilot as being in between the taps in the torso |
22:28 | < afny> | if a pilot fills up almost the whole of a Hi-leg head |
22:28 | < afny> | then I can't see them filling much less than the whole of a Chub torso |
22:28 | < afny> | I don't view the taps as representative of anything real |
22:28 | <+MittenNinja> | im going off of a 2b1p lego dude |
22:29 | <+MittenNinja> | not the pictures from the rulebook |
22:29 | <+MittenNinja> | if you go by that, the high leg shouldnt be that cramped |
22:29 | < afny> | its still pretty cramped if you hold it in your hands compared to a 7p fig |
22:30 | < afny> | I dunno, I mean |
22:30 | < afny> | I think the slope is definitely representative of armor |
22:30 | < afny> | designed to protect the pilot |
22:30 | < afny> | but removing it just removes too much bulk, especially near the waist |
22:31 | <+MittenNinja> | eh, like the rules for the game, i try not to overthink realism |
22:31 | < afny> | I'm not too concerned with realism |
22:31 | < afny> | I guess I just don't like the way a chub looks with four studs in the chest |
22:31 | < huhwhozat> | imo, it's a matter of preference. AS long as both you and you're opponent know what it represents, it'll be fine |
22:32 | <+MittenNinja> | you could always pop a 2x2 tile on there after removing the slope |
22:32 | < huhwhozat> | though really, once things start getting blown off a frame, it's not going to look all that pretty :P |
22:32 | < afny> | I only have one Chub in all my companies right now |
22:32 | < afny> | and it's got a shoulder mounted chaff launher |
22:32 | < afny> | +c |
22:32 | < FreefallGeek> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7516677656/in/photostream/ |
22:32 | < afny> | its* |
22:32 | < FreefallGeek> | What are those awesome shoulders? |
22:33 | <+MittenNinja> | bionicle pieces |
22:33 | <+MittenNinja> | it was more of an experiment that something i was actually going to use |
22:33 | < huhwhozat> | whaoh I hadn't seen this guy yet |
22:33 | <+MittenNinja> | there is just too much of a hollow gap inbetween the upper arm and lower arm |
22:34 | < huhwhozat> | I really like the bayonets :) |
22:34 | < afny> | yeah, I never really bought those arms |
22:34 | < afny> | it was the color that killed it for me, too |
22:34 | < huhwhozat> | looks a bit skinny around the thighs |
22:34 | < afny> | hard to tell them apart from the weapons |
22:34 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
22:34 | <+MittenNinja> | like i said, more of an experiment than anything else :) |
22:34 | <+MittenNinja> | plus i wanted to mess with an opening cokpit as well |
22:34 | <+MittenNinja> | +c |
22:35 | < afny> | lots of good stuff came out of that period though, if I recall |
22:35 | <+MittenNinja> | yep |
22:35 | <+MittenNinja> | i actually discovered a few of the techniques i used on the MgN fat snakes |
22:36 | <+MittenNinja> | namely the legs |
22:39 | < FreefallGeek> | Mitten did you already have a large lego collection prior to playing mf0? |
22:40 | <+MittenNinja> | sort of, but very little of it was useful for this |
22:41 | <+MittenNinja> | i started out by getting parts to build 5 of squieu's mini-frames from PAB online |
22:41 | <+MittenNinja> | then bricklinked parts from there to mod them a bit |
22:41 | <+MittenNinja> | and slowly started building my collection from there |
22:42 | < FreefallGeek> | How long have you been doing this? |
22:42 | < FreefallGeek> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7584653934/in/photostream/ and how is that chestplate made? lol |
22:42 | <+MittenNinja> | since around march? |
22:43 | < afny> | Freefall, http://www.flickr.com/photos/jed_september/5693490016/in/set-72157626508973904 |
22:43 | < afny> | that's how an mgn looks internally |
22:44 | < afny> | you can do all sorts of different chests with it |
22:44 | <+MittenNinja> | you beat me to linking it :p |
22:46 | < afny> | one day I'm going to revist my MgN company |
22:46 | <+MittenNinja> | ive become a big fan of MgNs |
22:46 | <+MittenNinja> | really versatile |
22:47 | < afny> | they were the first things I built when my bricklink order came in |
22:47 | < afny> | I love that frame |
22:47 | <+MittenNinja> | Id still say that the MgN or the Mini-Frame is my favorite |
22:47 | < afny> | I've never really been a fan of the mini frame |
22:47 | < afny> | I really don't like the way the tpiece is utilized in the torso |
22:48 | < afny> | it's just too much of a focal point if you do anything other than lots of light bley |
22:48 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah, i can see that |
22:48 | <+MittenNinja> | there are ways to cover it up though |
22:48 | < afny> | this is still probably my favorite frame to base MFZ frames on: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=907843 |
22:49 | < afny> | the AFI specifically, not just zizy frames in genral |
22:49 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah the AF series is pretty good |
22:49 | <+MittenNinja> | I just have trouble finding ways to attach arms in a way I'm happy with to those frames |
22:50 | < afny> | the way the AFI gets to the head from the leg plate is what I really like about it |
22:50 | < afny> | most of the AF frames attack from a ring plate in the torso |
22:50 | < afny> | but the AFI gets a more rounded, utilitarian look by building the head up out of the backpack |
22:50 | <+MittenNinja> | one day i may mess with them more |
22:50 | < afny> | attach* |
22:51 | < afny> | and yeah, if you don't like hinge plate arms |
22:51 | < afny> | it can be a challenge |
22:51 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah and i dont really dig them |
22:51 | <+MittenNinja> | theyre ok for legs |
22:51 | <+MittenNinja> | but they bother me as arms |
22:51 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7589410162/in/photostream |
22:51 | < afny> | I'm a huge fan of them honestly |
22:52 | <+MittenNinja> | i like having wrist articulation |
22:53 | < afny> | you get it if you just put one clip plate on the interior stud |
22:53 | < afny> | although it's a different plane than the clip tile wrist articulation |
22:53 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
22:53 | <+MittenNinja> | you cant twist the wrist |
22:54 | <+MittenNinja> | which is pretty vital for using two handed weapons if you want your frame to actually hold them with two hands |
22:54 | < afny> | yeah, true |
22:54 | < afny> | really none of my frames can do that, though |
22:55 | <+MittenNinja> | alrighty, i gotta get ready for work |
22:55 | <+MittenNinja> | later fellas! |
22:55 | < afny> | I guess ape tanks can sort of hold a rifle across their chest, though the foregrip hand is just close |
22:55 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
22:55 | <+MittenNinja> | the fat snake snipers for example are actually holding their rifles with both hands |
22:55 | < afny> | yeah |
22:55 | < afny> | I never really build in elbow articulation |
22:56 | < afny> | hinge plate arms just happen to have it |
22:56 | < afny> | it is nice for those huge snipers |
22:56 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah or sure |
22:56 | <+MittenNinja> | +f |
22:56 | <+MittenNinja> | alrighty im out |
22:56 | < afny> | p/ |
22:56 | < afny> | o/* |
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23:08 | < FreefallGeek> | alright im out for a bit |
23:08 | < FreefallGeek> | later guys |
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