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| 16:44 | < abudhabi> | Bloody hell. Firefox just refused to work in new tabs until I restarted it. Explicitly so! Restart required. 😐 |
| 17:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | Installed an FF update when it was running, I take it? |
| 17:17 | < abudhabi> | Probably. |
| 17:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | AIUI, this is because opening new tabs may require spawning new sandbox processes, which requires exec()ing or ldopen()ing stuff on disk that was just replaced by the update, which -- in the case of an ABI mismatch -- can flat crash your firefox session |
| 17:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | So they force a restart to prevent that from happening |
| 17:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | (I suspect that this is not an issue on nixos, but haven't tested it there yet) |
| 17:20 | < abudhabi> | I see. |
| 17:21 | < abudhabi> | Chromium doesn't do this for some reason. |
| 17:25 | <@gnolam> | It's specifically Firefox on Linux. |
| 17:25 | <@gnolam> | It's weird that it doesn't warn you. |
| 17:29 | < abudhabi> | I was surprised. |
| 17:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | Firefox on windows can't swap out the files while they're in use anyways, and Chrome does something different, AFAICT, where it stages the files and installs them properly on next startup (and constantly whines about how you need to restart to install updates until then) |
| 17:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | gnolam: warn you how? FF's first clue that you're installing system updates is when the files on disk change. |
| 17:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | If they want to make this a smoother user experience I think they'd have to do something similar to what Chrome does. |
| 17:57 | < abudhabi> | Well, what Chrome does is a warning, I suppose. |
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| 18:47 | <&ToxicFrog> | Chrome's approach is "you can update without interference with your current session, but none of the updates actually take effect until you restart" |
| 18:47 | <&ToxicFrog> | FF is "updating effectively forces you to restart to apply the update" |
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