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| 22:34 | < FLHerne> | regex insanity https://infosec.exchange/@SophosXOps/111325951903303608 |
| 22:37 | < SmithKurosaki> | So, dumb question because it's been more than a decade since I've needed it - are there still any Windows Bash Shells that don't require me to just spin up a VM? |
| 22:37 | < abudhabi> | Uh, Windows Linux Subsystem? |
| 22:38 | < abudhabi> | Or whatever's it called. |
| 22:38 | < SmithKurosaki> | That's just about a VM from what I can tell |
| 22:38 | < SmithKurosaki> | I dont think I'll have the mem available for that |
| 22:38 | < SmithKurosaki> | I thought PowerShell was what I was after, but maybe Cygwin is what I used to use? |
| 22:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | SmithKurosaki: PowerShell is MS's new shell to replace cmd.exe. It has some bash-like features but the syntax is completely different. |
| 22:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | You probably want Cygwin (lots of linux) or MSYS (small amounts of linux); both come with bash as standard. |
| 22:40 | < SmithKurosaki> | Thank you. Was hoping you'd pop in since you were the one that introduced me to it ages ago |
| 22:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | (that said, my understanding is that WSL is pretty light on the memory usage; it might be worth a try regardless) |
| 22:40 | < SmithKurosaki> | Also, hi :) |
| 22:41 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hi! |
| 22:41 | < SmithKurosaki> | I was looking at WSL - I will either be running 3-4 windows of FF or a mix of Chrome/FF during Desert Bus, and I've had issues with mem with just what I needed to have running last year |
| 22:43 | < SmithKurosaki> | But, now that I have extra duties I need a bash shell for grepping old runs while running the chat account for the archive group |
| 22:44 | | * ToxicFrog nodnod |
| 22:47 | < SmithKurosaki> | IF I still had a tower, I'd get more RAM, but laptops I do not wish to attempt to manually upgrade. I *do* have an old win10 box I could swap to a Linux VM box, but that's a bit of effort I'm not up for right now |
| 22:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | Quick and dirty option: burn a liveUSB of your preferred linux distro and boot the win10 box from that? |
| 22:54 | <&McMartin> | If you only need bash and not a _complete_ set of binutils, Git for Windows has a usable bash system inside of it that can be opened "Git Bash" from the Start Menu or made a startup terminal within the Windows Terminal app |
| 22:56 | < SmithKurosaki> | ToxicFrog: That's the plan post-bus. I need to figure out how you did that before |
| 22:58 | <&ToxicFrog> | These days it's pretty easy; most liveCDs are also working liveUSB images. So, download preferred ISO, burn to USB (if you're on linux use `dd`, on windows I think there's something called rawwrite or similar?), reboot and select USB from the boot menu and away you go. |
| 22:58 | <&ToxicFrog> | Some will boot into a ramdisk, some (I know SUSE does this) will automatically repartition and reformat the rest of the USB stick to save stuff across runs. |
| 22:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | If you need something ultra-minimal there's stuff like TinyCore Linux, but these days that's less necessary. |
| 23:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | ("ultra-minimal" here meaning "will fit on a 32MB USB flash drive from 20 years ago") |
| 23:01 | < SmithKurosaki> | You mean your $250 256mb'r :p |
| 23:01 | < SmithKurosaki> | Yea, I've got a fair number of USB sticks kicking around for thigns |
| 23:01 | < SmithKurosaki> | things* |
| 23:03 | <&ToxicFrog> | I don't know what your distro of choice is these days but it probably has the same capability, so give it a shot |
| 23:05 | < SmithKurosaki> | Probably roll fedora tbh. I liked it on the triple boot, and while I don't *need* to get into the servers at work, it's all RHEL |
| 23:06 | <&McMartin> | It's less RHEL than it once was, but it's been my day-to-day for over a decade now and I've always found it simpler to deal with than Ubuntu or Debian |
| 23:06 | <&McMartin> | The Pi400 has been sharpening my Debianoid skills though |
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| 23:10 | <&ToxicFrog> | I've been all in on NixOS for servers for ages now, and just switched my laptop from SUSE to NixOS as an experiment (a similar experiment in 2016 went badly) and it's working out great |
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| 23:12 | <&McMartin> | If I build a completely new Linux system at some point I'll probably have a look at Fedora's approach to Nix-y stuff |
| 23:13 | <&McMartin> | "Silverblue", apparently; their keyword is "immutable desktop" |
| 23:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | At some point I'm going to completely snap and try nixos on the gaming pc just to see how good proton is when it has actual hardware to play with, rather than a potato with openGL support |
| 23:17 | <&McMartin> | I'm getting enough use out of that Pi 400 that I'm seriously considering getting it a new drive that will let it do actual work |
| 23:17 | < SmithKurosaki> | ToxicFrog: If you want to set it up on my old laptop as a test, I won't complain. Got a 1050 in it |
| 23:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | It looks like Silverblue is based on layered immutable images but doesn't go all in on the non-FHS madness like Nix does |
| 23:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | SmithKurosaki: nah, I'd just use durandal as a testbed |
| 23:18 | < SmithKurosaki> | valid |
| 23:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | It's got enough space that I could set aside a partition for it, and then it would be an apples-to-apples comparison vs. win10 on the same hardware |
| 23:30 | < SmithKurosaki> | Makes sense |
| 23:34 | < SmithKurosaki> | I just wish I could transfer my Bluebeam install off my old win10 laptop, but only got one key from school and this laptop wasn't even a twinkle in the eye when I had to install it |
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