| --- Log opened Fri Oct 14 00:00:37 2022 |
| 00:50 | | * abudhabi__ hates windows updates. |
| 00:53 | < abudhabi__> | If you turn them off somehow, like disabling the internet connection, they'll just come back to bite you once you turn it back on. With a vengeance. |
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| 03:08 | <@celticminstrel> | Windows Update is malware. |
| 03:12 | < Mahal> | Given the alternative, which is _actual_ malware, I'll take Windows Updates. |
| 03:17 | <~Vornicus> | oh no having to let your computer do a thing as you're turning it off for the night how dare |
| 03:36 | <@celticminstrel> | Who actually turns it off for the night…? |
| 03:56 | <~Vornicus> | sane people |
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| 05:07 | <@macdjord> | Automatic updates: a good idea. 'Hey we rebooted your computer without asking while you were away; hope you didn't have anything important running': not so much. |
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| 07:50 | < abudhabi__> | I see opinions are divided. |
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| 10:16 | < abudhabi__> | I'd at least want some kind of boomer-inaccesible option to turn on manual updates only. One that won't be closed as a loophole the next time I decide to actually do update. |
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| 11:20 | <~Vorntastic> | A button that says "un-solve the most important problem in computer security", check |
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| 11:38 | <@ErikMesoy> | abudhabi_: There is a boomer-inaccessible option for making Windows updates manual only with registry editing. |
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| 12:57 | < abudhabi_> | Sounds like loopholes waiting to be closed. :V |
| 13:00 | < abudhabi_> | For context, my use case here is a virtual machine I use almost entirely for character sheet editing, because the software I'm using runs only on Windows. |
| 13:02 | < abudhabi_> | Occasionally, I use it for something else, that requires turning on the internet for it. And whatever I'm doing becomes a chore, because suddenly updates. |
| 13:20 | < abudhabi_> | Vorntastic: Are you the security guy at your company? 😉 |
| 13:21 | <~Vorntastic> | I work at a gas station |
| 13:22 | <~Vorntastic> | But no the biggest problem on the Internet for the entire 21st century is computers that haven't gotten their security updates so malware doesn't have to try |
| 13:23 | < abudhabi_> | I gathered. |
| 13:28 | < abudhabi_> | I'm not against updates per se, but they shouldn't be a regular annoyance. "You must reboot" is bad enough. "I have rebooted without even asking you for permission" is at least malware-adjacent. |
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| 15:47 | <@macdjord> | Vorntastic: 'We have automatically installed updates; they will be automatically applied next reboot' is fine. Big flashy button that says 'You have important updates; CLICK HERE to reboot' is also fine. But if the computer reboots without my permission, /that's a fatal crash/. |
| 15:48 | <@macdjord> | I'm fine with automatic updates, just not with automatic /reboots/. |
| 15:53 | <@macdjord> | ErikMesoy: If you know of a way to disable auto-reboot - preferably while letting updates still be automatically downloaded and applied - via registry in the current version of Win10, I'd like to hear it. I've used several methods, all of which subsequently stopped working. |
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