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| 03:19 | <&Reiver> | What *is* the point of webp? I find it vastly irritating. |
| 03:23 | <&McMartin> | It's a Google thing, first off, not an organic standard like PNG or an industry one like JPG |
| 03:23 | <&McMartin> | It's designed to get better compression than either while being able to act like both. |
| 03:27 | <&McMartin> | The one that drives me nuts is HEIC, which is an apple thing that isn't quite RAW but it's what iPhoto keeps trying to export or share |
| 04:26 | <&Reiver> | ... do we need better compression than PNG or JPG on the modern internet, really |
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| 07:54 | < abudhabi_> | What does "organic" mean in this context? |
| 08:23 | <&McMartin> | PNG was basically created by Some Dude Posting A Thread On Usenet. |
| 08:26 | < abudhabi_> | Ah. |
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| 08:28 | <&McMartin> | (And, I mean, these guys are good at what they did, but they are hardly the Joint Picture Experts Group) |
| 08:39 | < abudhabi_> | Hm. webp support is allegedly getting added in Mint 21. |
| 08:39 | < abudhabi_> | https://tree.taiga.io/project/linuxmint-linux-mint-21-1/us/216 |
| 08:39 | < abudhabi_> | I'm not sure I want to upgrade this early after release. |
| 08:39 | < abudhabi_> | IME, early adopter Mint versions have shitty backwards compat. |
| 09:38 | < FLHerne> | McMartin: to be fair, JPEG XL is largely based on FLIF, which was first posted by some dude on a forum |
| 09:42 | < FLHerne> | https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/free-lossless-image-format-flif.76305/ |
| 09:43 | < FLHerne> | (which reminds me, my friend is *still* waiting on the Pyra he preordered in 2015) |
| 09:43 | < FLHerne> | even for an amateur project, it's kind of a total mess |
| 14:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | > ... do we need better compression than PNG or JPG on the modern internet, really |
| 14:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | At scale, small savings in file size result in mind-boggling amounts of bandwidth (and cpu time and power) saved |
| 14:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | Allegedly, WebP offers smaller sizes than JPEG in lossy mode for all but the lowest quality settings, and smaller sizes than PNG in lossless mode |
| 14:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | It's also based on the WebM video standard, so for anything implementing WebM the incremental cost of adding WebP support is small |
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