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| 00:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | McMartin: at least here, if they fail sometimes without actual changes to the tests or the code they're testing they're "flaky", not "brittle" |
| 00:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | "brittle" is "they fail consistently, but as a result of changes to the code under test that do not actually violate the constraint the test is allegedly checking" |
| 00:50 | <&ToxicFrog> | In these case they are not flaky at all, but none of us are sure if the consistent test failures indicate an actual problem or if the test is just overly sensitive to internal details of the server that don't affect the correctness of the end result |
| 00:50 | <&ToxicFrog> | and the person who wrote them no longer works there! |
| 00:51 | <&McMartin> | Oh that's a good point, yeah, I was conflating flaky with brittle there. |
| 00:51 | <&McMartin> | If I have infinite resources I get to say "we have a problem and the question is whether it's the test or the tested" |
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| 13:17 | <@gnolam> | https://twitter.com/d_feldman/status/1558309810801631233 |
| 13:23 | < abudhabi> | Asymmetric encryption is not a human-shaped interface, episode 27379. |
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| 21:28 | <&McMartin> | "This is not what “industry standard encryption” means" |
| 21:28 | <&McMartin> | I remember that joke from one of the famous keynotes about Alice and Bob! |
| 21:28 | <&McMartin> | something like how some keys are weaker and must be avoided, so that means other keys must be stronger, so what we need to do is find the strongest key and then all use that |
| 21:28 | <&McMartin> | (it was a keynote intended as humor) |
| 21:30 | <~Vornicus> | doesn't standard ecc use a specific elliptic curve |
| 21:30 | <&McMartin> | I'm not sure that that isn't like saying "doesn't SHA-2 use a specific initial state" |
| 21:31 | <&McMartin> | (which is to say I don't think it's the curve itself that's the key, but I was never good at this and the best I got wasn't recently) |
| 21:31 | <~Vornicus> | I know even less than you but that's a thing that got stuck in my brain |
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| 21:43 | <~Vornicus> | *reads wikipedia* okay that sounds about right. the curve is the domain |
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| 23:55 | <&McMartin> | OK, I need to finish this damn article today |
| 23:55 | <&McMartin> | On the other hand, I could also take my third nap |
| --- Log closed Sun Aug 14 00:00:09 2022 |