| --- Log opened Tue Jun 07 00:00:20 2022 |
| --- Day changed Tue Jun 07 2022 |
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| 04:20 | | * McMartin eyes this Amiga program |
| 04:20 | <&McMartin> | Oh, FFS |
| 04:20 | <&McMartin> | ISA bullshit! On non-PCs! |
| 04:20 | <&McMartin> | Oh the humanity, etc. etc. |
| 04:20 | | * McMartin fiddles with preferences and the program starts working |
| 04:21 | | * McMartin mutters unkind things about CONFIG.SYS |
| 04:24 | <@celticminstrel> | ISA? |
| 04:27 | <&McMartin> | The PC expansion card standard that predated PCI. |
| 04:28 | <&McMartin> | Notable, among other things, for mostly being configured via hand-setting jumper cables, and also for being unable to access any memory beyond the lower megabyte. |
| 04:28 | <&McMartin> | That latter was the relevant bit here; the program I was testing only behaved properly when it happened to be assigned to the lower 256KB of RAM. |
| 04:29 | <&McMartin> | Meanwhile, here's a wonderful out-of-context line from the official Amiga OS documentation |
| 04:29 | <&McMartin> | "As an example, Exec memory region lists should be accessed only when forbidden." |
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| 14:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | Naming things is hard and I don't like it. |
| 16:46 | <@macdjord> | ToxicFrog: The two hard problems of CS: Naming things, cache invalidation, and off-by-one errors. |
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| 18:07 | <&McMartin> | also cache invalidation |
| 18:33 | <@ErikMesoy> | And exactly-once message delivery |
| 19:02 | <~Vornicus> | https://twitter.com/ancient_james/status/1534002794726031360 |
| 19:05 | < abudhabi__> | ErikMesoy: You should have said that twice. :V |
| 19:05 | <@ErikMesoy> | abudhabi__: Why, when people said cache invalidation twice? ;) |
| 19:06 | <@TheWatcher> | vorn: Impressive, but I'm slightly disappointed that he didn't fit a tiny FBR in there so it would be orientation agnostic |
| 19:06 | < abudhabi__> | ErikMesoy: Those are subtly different! :V |
| 19:07 | <@TheWatcher> | ... and of course, foone is there. |
| 19:07 | <@ErikMesoy> | Since the joke gets several hard problems added, I've seen it split into "Two hard problems of local systems" (Naming things, cache invalidation, and off-by-one errors) and "Two hard problems of distributed systems" (1. exactly-once message delivery, 2. message ordering, 1. exactly-once message delivery) |
| 19:09 | < abudhabi__> | Hah. |
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| --- Log closed Wed Jun 08 00:00:31 2022 |