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| 22:27 | | * Reiver attempts Darkest Math(tm). |
| 22:27 | | * Reiver hopes and fears that he can do this with Pythagoras, and spare him the fate of wrestling the dreaded Trig. |
| 22:28 | <~Vornicus> | ? |
| 22:29 | <~Vornicus> | what'cha got? |
| 22:31 | < abudhabi__> | Homework? |
| 22:40 | <@ErikMesoy> | Workwork? |
| 22:41 | <~Vornicus> | Reiver the math nerds are looming tell us |
| 22:55 | <&Reiver> | Then meet your doooooooom https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FBuLa2wiLjTnbZL4HAR1WTRbAkwIYe2P86HnCVUh-84/edit?usp=sharing |
| 22:55 | <&Reiver> | No homework, but "Make TV not fall on top of PC and ruin Reivers Life" work |
| 22:56 | <&Reiver> | This is a diagram of the corner of my lounge. There are windows on either side of the wall. I intend to try to mount a TV over the gap, and yes, diagonally is preffered so I didn't mind buying a 55" in the end. |
| 22:56 | <&Reiver> | Which I have just done. |
| 22:56 | <&Reiver> | The question on how to physically fix to the wall, however, is /not/ yet done. :V |
| 22:57 | <&Reiver> | I have located one wall stud in the expected location, .6m from the corner |
| 22:58 | <&Reiver> | I wish to mount the TV in a shallow angle... but need to make sure that whatever mounting arm I purchase will actually let it *sit* in that shallow angle, and I would prefer it did not wave about overhead furhter from the wall than it has to due exclusively to mounting bracket limitations. |
| 22:58 | <&Reiver> | But my intelligence on the mounting bracket arm lengths etc is, well, as much as the links in the document tell me. |
| 22:58 | <&Reiver> | (I can also buy elsewhere, but if I buy from there I'll be getting free shipping. No big deal if it's needed, but no point doing otherwise if it isn't, etc) |
| 22:59 | <~Vornicus> | So you need -- okay, the question (once we're here) is "does the mounting bracket fit in that little triangle" |
| 23:00 | <&Reiver> | Correct |
| 23:01 | <~Vornicus> | So question one, what do you need to do to mount that on the wall? Is one stud sufficient? |
| 23:01 | <&Reiver> | And, if it's not fully articulated (I suspect it will need to be but y'know), given the 600m mounting point, the heck does the TV end up etc |
| 23:01 | <&Reiver> | One stud is, I understand, sufficient |
| 23:01 | <&Reiver> | (I will be checking this with my respective DIY handyman parental units in the near future) |
| 23:01 | <&Reiver> | If it requires two studs I am in trouble because I've only got one between the window frames :V |
| 23:03 | <&Reiver> | Forgive the drawing, iti s very roughly to scale but not perfect |
| 23:03 | <&Reiver> | (Also in the end the 65" tvs were hahano in price, so, y'know, you work with what you have~) |
| 23:04 | <&Reiver> | And it is my preference that the TV be *relatively* flat against the wall a shown as opposed to, like, a 45 degree angle |
| 23:04 | <&Reiver> | Because that means it does not hover *directly* overhead when I am working at my PC, whose monitors and fancy expensive electronics sit directly below >_> <_< (nothing wrong with this plan at all, right) |
| 23:05 | <&Reiver> | (Also better viewing angles, but y'know) |
| 23:06 | <&Reiver> | But I don't know how to math what length/size the ~arms~ need to or could be |
| 23:06 | <&Reiver> | To be able to squeeze into little triangle between stud and, y'know, center of the TV |
| 23:07 | <&Reiver> | Presumably some depth is required for hinge mechanisms respectively as well, but it is my hope if I buy a sufficiently bendy set of arms that is relatively non-eventful |
| 23:08 | <~Vornicus> | ...no, this is fine |
| 23:09 | <&Reiver> | (As soon as I had volunteers to help I took a moment to throw together a Helpful Diagram because, y'know) |
| 23:10 | <~Vornicus> | if the right edge of your TV is at the window, the mount point is basically halfway between the wall and the window, and so too is the midpoint of the TV, and with the 55" TV you have about 15cm, comfortably between the wall distances |
| 23:11 | <&Reiver> | ... huh, okay |
| 23:11 | <&Reiver> | Oh, right |
| 23:12 | <&Reiver> | I guess the angle is not actually extreme enough to put them out of alignment too far from each other? |
| 23:13 | <~Vornicus> | No, the angle is quite shallow, and in any case the specs are such that even very extreme angles are fine |
| 23:13 | <~Vornicus> | you can point the tv so you can see it out the window |
| 23:19 | <~Vornicus> | for a 65" TV, the distance is 44cm |
| 23:20 | <&Reiver> | Yeah, that would've stuck out too much for my liking |
| 23:21 | <&Reiver> | Hm, okay |
| 23:21 | <&Reiver> | So as long as I can shrink the mounting bracket *down* to ~15cm depth, total |
| 23:21 | <&Reiver> | It'll be fine? |
| 23:21 | <~Vornicus> | Yep |
| 23:21 | <&Reiver> | Thank you! |
| 23:21 | <&Reiver> | That was the Magic Number I needed to do my hunting, along with "am I going to have trouble with mounting arms getting Janky" |
| 23:22 | <&Reiver> | Turns out no, the midpoints are roughly aligned so that's alright |
| 23:22 | <&Reiver> | Now I just gotta make sure it's skinny enough, excellent |
| 23:22 | <&Reiver> | (did you like my diagram) |
| 23:22 | <~Vornicus> | (it was not to scale at all and thus frustrating) |
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| 23:23 | <@ErikMesoy> | I went off and drew a couple of 102 x 118 pixel squares to scale to see how a TV would fit, it might be useful to do that too. Or even hold up a 55inch string to the relevant wall point to get a feel for it. |
| 23:24 | <&Reiver> | (Yes, I have concluded Google's diagram's biggest failing is the inability to set Properties and actually type anything for actual dimensions in, I eyeballed it very roughly using the Inch rulers but blarg) |
| 23:25 | <~Vornicus> | draw.io |
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| 23:28 | <&Reiver> | Was not part of the spreadsheet when I was in a hurry~ |
| 23:28 | <~Vornicus> | guess you can't get too much bigger. 68" would barely fit |
| 23:30 | <&Reiver> | Yeah |
| 23:31 | <&Reiver> | 65 was pushing it as was |
| 23:31 | <&Reiver> | And that would be hanging *overhead* which I suspect would be ... distracting |
| 23:31 | <&Reiver> | like, uh |
| 23:31 | <~Vornicus> | fuckin' breencasted |
| 23:31 | <&Reiver> | I have two monitors, gosh how to fit one sec |
| 23:36 | <&Reiver> | hah |
| 23:36 | <&Reiver> | I know it's not to scale, but very rough conceptually, green on diagram! |
| 23:36 | <&Reiver> | Is my two monitors and my rough position of my head. |
| 23:36 | <~Vornicus> | Oh |
| 23:36 | <&Reiver> | You see why I may have hesitated to go for the 65" :D |
| 23:36 | <~Vornicus> | It's Up There, I see |
| 23:36 | <&Reiver> | Yyyyyup |
| 23:38 | <&Reiver> | "You know, I'm not great at spatials. I bet I don't really want to have a TV *directly overhead*" |
| 23:39 | <~Vornicus> | yeah that might be bad |
| 23:39 | <~Vornicus> | even if you were good at spatials |
| 23:39 | <&Reiver> | Yeah |
| 23:39 | <&Reiver> | So the 55" feels a Good Compromise |
| 23:39 | <&Reiver> | And shit |
| 23:39 | <&Reiver> | Last time we bought a TV, 32" was the industry standard |
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| 23:45 | <&Reiver> | Whears 'roughly over my monitors' is... more palatable, haha |
| 23:45 | | * Reiver still hasn't decided how /high/ to mount it, but |
| 23:46 | | * Reiver will probably go with 'find the horizontal crossbraces and let that inform it' |
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