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| 00:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | At some point, that changed, because that's worked for me for many years |
| 00:05 | <&McMartin> | Would not surprise me |
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| 00:47 | <@celticminstrel> | I don’t really like p4 or git… I’ve occasionally considered trying others such as hg or darcs |
| 00:48 | <@celticminstrel> | I don’t like svn either (that’s the first one I used) tho I hear it’s improved a lot since I used it. |
| 00:48 | <&McMartin> | hg is one I've been meaning to get my head around, because its model of how DVCS works seems to be so different from Gits. |
| 00:48 | <@celticminstrel> | Really? |
| 00:49 | <&McMartin> | It seems like it offers a linear revision count, p4/svn style, which Git does not have because Git's model of DVCS says "such a thing is literally meaningless" |
| 00:49 | <@celticminstrel> | There are things I like better in git and things I like better in p4 but both of them also have problems. |
| 00:49 | <@celticminstrel> | Like, git has no idea what a “move” or “copy” or “split” is. |
| 00:50 | <&McMartin> | Git's plumbing knows about copies, and they've added limited support for move |
| 00:50 | <&McMartin> | (a copy is something it can dedup~) |
| 00:51 | <@celticminstrel> | Right, but it’s at a superficial level, right? It’s basically guessing it’s a move because of file similarity. |
| 00:51 | <&McMartin> | Yep |
| 00:51 | <@celticminstrel> | Whereas in p4 it’s actually recorded as a move. |
| 00:51 | <&McMartin> | But that does mean that frex `git log` will behave sensibly if it finds the move. |
| 00:51 | <&McMartin> | But yeah |
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| 16:36 | < NSGuest54131> | I get the distinct impression that XFCE is the unfavorite desktop of Mint developers. |
| 16:37 | <&[R]> | People still use XFCE? |
| 16:38 | < NSGuest54131> | Yeah, until an hour ago, I did. |
| 16:40 | < NSGuest54131> | I decided to use XFCE long ago, when I bought a laptop for general use, and it was shitty enough hardware that Cinnamon was too much overhead. I tried LXDE first, but that turned out to be super-broken. XFCE was better than that, and was light enough for that laptop. |
| 16:40 | < NSGuest54131> | I elected to still use XFCE when I got a new laptop for work. Probably due to familiarity. |
| 16:41 | < NSGuest54131> | But this one has over time been upgraded enough that running Cinnamon is no issue. |
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| 16:47 | <&[R]> | KDE is supposedly pretty light nowadays |
| 16:49 | < NSGuest54131> | I don't think I've ever used it, aside from possibly in high school computers. |
| 16:49 | < NSGuest54131> | Regardless, Cinnamon seems to work fine. No slowness after startup. |
| 18:03 | < NSGuest54131> | Hmmm. What's a good, durable tablet? Something like the tablet equivalent of Nokia dumbphones (and the 800 Tough). |
| 18:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | No idea, I'm still using a decapitated Lenovo Helix as a tablet. |
| 18:10 | <&ToxicFrog> | (which I would not recommend, overall) |
| 18:11 | < NSGuest54131> | Haha. |
| 18:12 | < NSGuest54131> | My main use cases are: ebooks, GPS and retarded social apps that require a SIM card to function. |
| 18:12 | < NSGuest54131> | Such as Signal, WhatsApp, etc. |
| 18:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | For ebooks I generally consider a tablet a poor second choice to an e-reader, unless they're comics or have lots of diagrams or colourwork in them. |
| 18:54 | < NSGuest54131> | Well, I need some sort of browser, because many of the ebooks I read are from openlibrary.org. Not sure whether it has any integrations with proper ebook readers. |
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| 20:23 | <&ToxicFrog> | Free books are in EPUB format (which is supported by everything except Kindles) and borrowable books use Adobe's ADEPT DRM (which supports everything except Kindles), so yes, although it doesn't support Overdrive (i.e. browsing and borrowing directly from the e-reader itself -- you have to check out the books on a computer and then sync them to the reader) |
| 20:34 | <&ToxicFrog> | Anyways, it sounds like you'd need a tablet regardless, so you can always start with that and then pick up an e-reader later if you want one. |
| 20:36 | <&McMartin> | Also, looking at your hostmask, you look like a regular, but it would appear that NickServ zapped you |
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| 21:29 | < abudhabi> | I am. |
| 21:29 | < abudhabi> | I just normally spare extremely little thought to my nickname. |
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