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04:32 | <&McMartin> | "wow, 230 - 220 * 0.5 = 5!" |
05:42 | < catalyst> | hm |
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11:01 | < Yossarian> | hmmm |
11:08 | < Yossarian> | file locking mechnaisms on linux like systems are generally poor across processes? |
11:09 | < Yossarian> | what are some solutions to such a thing? |
11:13 | < Yossarian> | i mean there are advisory locks but |
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11:23 | < Yossarian> | perhaps this is why my bash history is always inaccurate across gnu screen and tmux? |
11:23 | < Yossarian> | they all have their own copies in memory |
11:37 | < Yossarian> | or a lock file |
11:38 | <&[R]> | Bash doesn't write to the history file until it closes |
11:38 | <&[R]> | File locks have /zero/ to do with this |
11:38 | < Yossarian> | i was thinking of an abstract problem |
11:39 | < Yossarian> | but hard file locks seem silly |
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13:58 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yeah, there are various gross hacks you can do to get history syncing across bash sessions but it's not an out of the box feature like it is in zsh. |
14:03 | <&ToxicFrog> | Re file locking on linux, linux does support sysv mandatory locks (if a file has the setgid bit set and the gx bit unset locks on it are mandatory rather than advisory), for filesystems mounted with the `mand` option |
14:03 | <&ToxicFrog> | However, it applies only to fcntl/lockf (not to flock) and has known race conditions that make it not 100% reliable |
14:04 | <&ToxicFrog> | Generally locks on linux/UNIX are a way for different processes of the same program to avoid stepping on each other, not a way for one program to protect its data from outside interference./ |
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