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| 11:13 | < Yossarian> | <&ToxicFrog> What I really want to play is a top-down, 2d version of the X games with a UI not designed by complete sadists |
| 11:13 | < Yossarian> | with no piloting of ships, just the combat portion of things? |
| 11:14 | < Yossarian> | X3:AP is best as it's gonna get, X4 has Lua interface for drawing UI elements but it uses some XML metalanguage for scripting and changing the game... there is a <patch> element that acts like diff / patch but yeah it's a pain |
| 11:15 | < Yossarian> | I want all the X3:AP assets inserted into X4 while Egosoft fixes trading bugs, mining fleet bugs, fleet bugs (fleet doesn't stick together), a whole plethora of things |
| 11:16 | < Yossarian> | blessed are the modders and reverse engineers are the saints, if I was as good as coding as I was 10 years ago I still would probably have a hard time reverse engineering X3's engine |
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| 12:21 | < Yossarian> | ToxicFrog: I've dreamt of a game that is played with vector like triangles and such on a map representing ships, with scouts and such. |
| 12:22 | < Yossarian> | Another undertaking would be taking Hearts of Iron 4 and simplifying it in a way where it doesn't take forever to plan it out and play |
| 12:24 | < Yossarian> | idea 3: Civilization 5 clone with rules in XML or JSON easily modifiable and of course game set up overall in MVC, View and Control being client based. From curses to whatever. |
| 12:29 | < Yossarian> | idea 4: ncurses / isometric / modular view & control D&D 3e / 3.5e combat engine with rules in the open (X4's <patch> feature in it's XML metalanguage is a brilliant idea) |
| 13:33 | < Yossarian> | Anyhow, with my ideas and building FOSS games, gotta acquire assets from pre-existing games as placeholders. I have a list of game data files in spreadsheet. |
| 13:35 | < Yossarian> | Not only the assets in and of themselves, but what games have formats that are actually useful in some way or make sense for the design of the inital game and then for mod/third party support (forking, people actually modding, etc). |
| 13:36 | < Yossarian> | I suppose I should upload the spreadsheet to a sharing place like... Google Docs? Hate Google but that's the only place I can think of with sharing and such with ease of modification by many people. |
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| 14:25 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yossarian: no, you have completely the wrong idea |
| 14:25 | <&ToxicFrog> | I mean something like X where you are controlling a single ship but can build stations, set up trade routes, hire fleets, etc |
| 14:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | If I want a 4X I have loads of those |
| 14:26 | < Emmy> | Reminds me of games like flash trek |
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| 18:11 | < Yossarian> | <&ToxicFrog> I mean something like X where you are controlling a single ship but can build stations, set up trade routes, hire fleets, etc |
| 18:11 | < Yossarian> | I think you just described X: Rebirth. |
| 18:12 | < Yossarian> | But people on Egosoft's discord are talking about they've modded the game where you can fly more than one ship. You're not stuck with a freighter forever. |
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| 18:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | You're not actually reading anything I say, are you. |
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