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| 03:09 | <&McMartin> | oh no, this code worked the first time |
| 03:15 | <&McMartin> | Time to add stuff to it until it breaks |
| 03:26 | < Yossarian> | I've been playing Egosoft's X4 (pirated since there was no demo) and 1) I suck at playing it as opposed to the previous game, X3. 2) the way the game is constructed apparently is through xml files |
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| 14:44 | <&ToxicFrog> | > the way the game is constructed apparently is through xml files |
| 14:44 | <&ToxicFrog> | so not much has changed since X2 then~ |
| 14:44 | <&ToxicFrog> | (the reason the X2 script editor is so weird is that the scripts are basically XML serializations of the script's syntax tree. It's really gross.) |
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| 15:29 | <@TheWatcher> | .... wat |
| 15:29 | <@TheWatcher> | Just why would you even |
| 15:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | A question I ask myself a lot about the X series. |
| 15:57 | <~Vornicus> | I mean it is X |
| 15:57 | <~Vornicus> | why wouldn't it use XML |
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| 16:51 | < catalyst> | did someone take entirely the wrong lesson from Lisp |
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| 17:18 | <@TheWatcher> | Honestly, with the x devs, taking entirely the wrong lesson is not out of character~ |
| 17:19 | < Yossarian> | <&ToxicFrog> (the reason the X2 script editor is so weird is that the scripts are basically XML serializations of the script's syntax tree. It's really gross.) |
| 17:21 | < Yossarian> | Yeah, it's strange. I assume there is some C++ groking the XML serializations, but I have to install Civilization V (I've heard the game's base rules are implemented in a similiar fashion but yeah Egosoft lives up to their name... X4, no MP, didn't carry over the models from X3? so now there is only like 20 ships, gg) |
| 17:22 | < Yossarian> | because I've been wanting to write an implementation of a table-top game but not sure how to make the game logic modular so people can change things |
| 17:28 | < catalyst> | building moddable rules systems is haaard |
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| 17:47 | < Yossarian> | yeah, I guess I'm kinda looking at games to get a feel for various systems but IMO Egosoft fucked X4 up, I launched X3:TC on a lark and just the feel... was much more fun |
| 18:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | There is prior art in the "modular tabletop game engine" space; check out Tabletop Simulator (commercial) and VASSAL (foss) |
| 19:04 | <&McMartin> | https://i.redd.it/5kabvtyr8v371.png |
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