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| 03:48 | <&McMartin> | I never got past Tarn Adams' attitude towards his interface design |
| 03:58 | <@Reiv> | ? |
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| 04:04 | <&McMartin> | The early documentation for GIMP was not merely "opaque" but "actively offensive" |
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| 04:52 | <@celticminstrel> | …actively offensive documentation? How can documentation be actively offensive? o.O |
| 05:06 | <@Reiv> | HA HA YOU CAN'T FIND THE DRAW BUTTON YOU UTTER BUFFOON? GO AWAY AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE EVEN DOING WITH OUR GLORIOUS PINNACLE OF SOFTWARE YOU COMPLETE TWAZZOK. |
| 05:07 | <@Reiv> | :p |
| 05:07 | <@celticminstrel> | For a second there I thought we’d been invaded by a spam bot. |
| 05:12 | <@Reiv> | Then my work here is done. |
| 05:13 | <@Reiv> | Oh, I should have written it in l33t to make it extra-offensive to the eyeballs, but even I have my limits nowadays. |
| 05:13 | <@celticminstrel> | For extra bonus points, write it in mathematical chalkboard bold. |
| 05:22 | <&McMartin> | Reiv is almost exactly correct |
| 05:22 | <&McMartin> | The bit that sticks in my mind was the seven page tutorial on "where the line tool is" |
| 05:23 | <&McMartin> | Which was operating on the assumption that the reader already knew that there wasn't one and that you used the shift key to shfit into a constrain-to-line mode with the normal pencil tool |
| 05:23 | <&McMartin> | And instead needed a lavishly-illustrated five-page guide as to where on the keyboard the shift key was |
| 05:23 | <@celticminstrel> | WTH… |
| 05:25 | <@Reiv> | And you thought I was joking? :) |
| 05:25 | <&McMartin> | I am assuming however that the initial line above was more objecting to things like "not having a line tool in the first place", rather than being insufferable about it |
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| 08:02 | <@gnolam> | McMartin: for extra fun, at the time at least *the two weren't equivalent*. |
| 08:03 | <@gnolam> | You got an extra unavoidable blob at your first click. |
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| 08:25 | <&[R]> | So basically GIMP was designed to be gimped |
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| 14:17 | <&[R]> | https://old.reddit.com/r/programminghorror/comments/bhrdgd/this_way_of_programming_commonly_known_as_whitney/elv5tru/ |
| 14:21 | <~Vornicus> | why would -- uh -- why |
| 14:45 | | * TheWatcher looks up "Whitney style", backs away slowly |
| 15:08 | < catalyst> | "Houston, we have a problem"? |
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| 17:55 | <@Tamber> | Ah, line noise, my favourite~ |
| 17:57 | <&McMartin> | I mean. APL |
| 17:57 | <&McMartin> | APL requires *extensive* unicode support just to render its traditional (custom charset) source code. |
| 17:58 | <&McMartin> | What you are looking at here is the problem that C++ templates were designed to solve |
| 18:23 | < catalyst> | slicing your arm off? |
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| 18:24 | <&McMartin> | "Doing piles of implementation in macros for the C Preprocessor to deal with" |
| 18:26 | < catalyst> | hmm |
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| 23:00 | <~Vornicus> | today is a good day: I set up a 1-letter pull request |
| 23:04 | <@Tamber> | 'A!'? |
| 23:08 | <~Vornicus> | I changed from `1` to `i`, to fix a shuffle implementation |
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