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| 06:53 | <&McMartin> | ... ok, that's enough for tonight. |
| 06:53 | | * McMartin gets this code to fail consistently and in a way that makes a nice picture he can screencap |
| 06:53 | <&McMartin> | This weekend I can throw all that out and replace it with something that works. |
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| 07:05 | <~Vorntastic> | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/330089431379869708/822157712045244436/unknown.png my road thingy now has curves between tiles |
| 07:06 | <&McMartin> | sweet |
| 07:08 | <&McMartin> | Meanwhile the part that does work: https://bumbershootsoft.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/gem_hello.png |
| 07:08 | <&McMartin> | Also shown: why it was basically OK for the Mac to be monochrome back in '87 |
| 07:08 | <~Vorntastic> | I had made my own demo picture but this one you must admit is way sweeter than anything i could have come up with |
| 07:09 | <~Vorntastic> | Mint sherbet is a color all right |
| 07:09 | <&McMartin> | Gotta mix mint sherbet with eye-searing white |
| 07:10 | <&McMartin> | Even dumber because this thing has a better palette (though fewer simultaneous colors) than the Sega Genesis |
| 07:11 | <&McMartin> | With 12-bit truecolor you go with this of all things |
| 07:11 | <~Vorntastic> | Genesis is ...512, right? And you can get them all? |
| 07:12 | <&McMartin> | Genesis is 4096, but you can only specify 512 of them; the remainder come out of special "highlight" and "shadow" layer interactions. |
| 07:12 | <&McMartin> | 64 simultaneous, 16 per background tile or sprite unit |
| 07:13 | <&McMartin> | The ST line starts with 512 but later editions go to 4096 |
| 07:13 | <&McMartin> | Has 16 color 320x200 and 4 color 640x200 |
| 07:14 | <&McMartin> | So I guess the ST was worse than the Genesis except for the part where it came out four years earlier. |
| 07:15 | <&McMartin> | STs at the time the Genesis came out had 4096. |
| 07:17 | < Yossarian> | Genesis needs a UNIX / Linux / BSD like port. |
| 07:18 | < Yossarian> | Is there a linux kernel for older arch? |
| 07:18 | <&McMartin> | Genesis only has 64KB of RAM. |
| 07:19 | <&McMartin> | If you want to run a Unix-like system on the ST, it... kinda ultimately became one. |
| 07:19 | < Yossarian> | it might be able to address more |
| 07:19 | <&McMartin> | TOS+FreeMint, though you probably want to put that on a TT or a Falcon because |
| 07:19 | <&McMartin> | Unix really wants at least a 68020 |
| 07:20 | < Yossarian> | or using the cartridge slot to address |
| 07:20 | <&McMartin> | And STs (and the Genesis) are 68000 and don't have proper memory protection |
| 07:20 | <&McMartin> | 16MB address space is fine |
| 07:20 | <&McMartin> | But yeah, the ST OS is this mashup of CP/M, MS-DOS, and POSIX |
| 07:20 | <&McMartin> | And in the end the POSIX parts took over and it was basically A Unix. |
| 07:21 | <&McMartin> | Linux for m68k was aimed at high-end Ataris probably more than it was aimed at Amigas |
| 07:25 | <&McMartin> | gcc needs FreeMint though, it won't compile to '87-era TOS. |
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| 07:38 | <&McMartin> | Looks like NetBSD has m68k Ataris and Amigas on their Tier II support list. |
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| 08:33 | < Yossarian> | Wait, weechat has mono dependencies? |
| 08:33 | < Yossarian> | or |
| 08:34 | < Yossarian> | apt-get upgrade isn't good syntax for apt-get |
| 08:38 | < Yossarian> | updates everything with updates, speaking of which, look at this: |
| 08:38 | < Yossarian> | https://i.imgur.com/JB1arwe.png |
| 08:38 | < Yossarian> | wow |
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| 13:31 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yossarian: IIRC `update` fetches the latest package index, `upgrade` updates all installed packages to the latest version, but I don't apt much |
| 13:31 | <&ToxicFrog> | And I have no idea what I'm looking at there. |
| 13:38 | <&[R]> | Likewise, I'm guessing he's excited the package is only 1MB? |
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| 18:02 | < Yossarian> | ToxicFrog: it looked for the package and then proceded to try and update every available package with a version difference |
| 18:02 | < Yossarian> | I might be switching to arch based distro soon |
| 18:02 | < Yossarian> | 128GB SSD is not enough for a computer person to live on, alas |
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| 18:27 | < Emmy> | not nearly |
| 18:33 | <&[R]> | I lived with a 200GB HDD for a source-compiled distro for a while |
| 18:33 | <&[R]> | It was NOT fun |
| 18:34 | <&[R]> | Especially with some generating many dozens of 2+GB pre-stripped binaries |
| 18:34 | <&[R]> | And the build scripts not thinking that maybe one wouldn't want to purge all the build artifacts post-build |
| 18:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | ancilla only has 64GB for /nix, but nixos doesn't keep around intermediate build artifacts (only the original source tree + the build outputs you actually want) and it doesn't need to share that space with /home or the like, so it works out ok |
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