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12:37 | | * TheWatcher stabs visual studio c# documentation comments |
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12:39 | <@TheWatcher> | With doxygen comments, I can do `int foo; ///< The amount of foo in the bar` - fuck if I can find a way to do this with xml comments |
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12:45 | < catalyst> | I've not figured out how to make VS spit out built documentation from a C# project |
12:46 | < catalyst> | Rust is just the best |
12:46 | < catalyst> | everything should be like cargo |
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14:18 | <@ErikMesoy> | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of each of the people who worked to implement "you cannot copy text from this document" in googledocs. |
14:46 | < abudhabi> | Yes. |
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16:35 | <&[R]> | I've been tempted to tempted to try Knuth's documentation code thing |
16:36 | <&[R]> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literate_programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_(programming_system) |
16:52 | < john_cephalopoda> | The RETRO Forth language is designed with something like that. The file is text by default and code is embedded between lines of "~~~", like this: https://cuttle.space/tmp/rasc-x86.txt |
17:00 | < john_cephalopoda> | There is also an html exporter that makes it look very pretty. For the file above, that would look like this: https://cuttle.space/tmp/rasc-x86.html |
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17:49 | < john_cephalopoda> | Hm, the uses of VR and HMDs are currently very limited, and the support on Linux is not very good. |
17:51 | < john_cephalopoda> | I got an HMD and tried it on Windows before. The only things that really works is the virtual house with giant netflix cinema in Microsoft's Mixed Reality Portal. |
17:52 | < john_cephalopoda> | There aren't many games. There are like 10 demos for some rail shooters available though. |
17:53 | < john_cephalopoda> | From my point of view, the best use for an HMD these days is having a bunch of virtual screens floating around. |
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18:57 | <&McMartin> | R: There is a modern iteration of WEB that was designed to scale much more drastically |
18:59 | <&McMartin> | Except I can't find my links to it |
18:59 | <&McMartin> | (The Inform 7 text adventure language was originally built in WEB, then grew beyond it and ultimately its creator had to make a new WEB-like system that could scale sufficiently.) |
19:00 | <&McMartin> | (Happily its own source code describes this evolution and the need for it in detail!) |
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19:02 | <&McMartin> | Mmm. It's been taken down as part of the rewrite of the webpage, it looks like. |
19:02 | <&McMartin> | I hvae it on web archive, but let's see if it moved... |
19:03 | <&McMartin> | https://web.archive.org/web/20180322184538/http://inform7.com/sources/inweb/ |
19:06 | <&[R]> | john_cephalopoda: HMD? |
19:06 | <&[R]> | McMartin: nice |
19:06 | <&[R]> | I was also looking at noweb |
19:09 | <&McMartin> | I think that comes up in inweb's prologue as well |
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19:09 | <&McMartin> | CBlorb is also a very nice bit of source. |
19:10 | <&McMartin> | Ah yeah |
19:10 | <&McMartin> | "When he wound up his short-lived Literate Programming column in CACM (vol. 33, no. 3, 1990), Christopher Wyk made the perceptive criticism of LP that "no one has yet volunteered to write a program using another's system for literate programming". Well, we haven't, either: we use our own inweb, rather than Knuth's CWEB or more modern alternatives like Norman Ramsey's noweb. As a program inweb is not |
19:10 | <&McMartin> | especially interesting; it's both a simplification of CWEB, removing unwanted gadgets and distracting typography, and also an extension, providing for much larger projects with more internal structure, and for languages other than C" |
19:16 | <&McMartin> | I have joked in the past that there are perhaps five people I trust to write Perl code. |
19:16 | <&McMartin> | To the extent that it is not a joke, the author of inweb is one of them, and our own TheWatcher is another. |
19:19 | <&McMartin> | I have also said, and I'm not sure the degree to which it is a joke, that a lot of the code-walkthrough articles I've written for my tech blog are basically artifacts of literate programming, but in assembly language. |
19:35 | < john_cephalopoda> | [R]: HMD = Head-Mounted Display |
19:36 | < john_cephalopoda> | In my case a Windows Mixed Reality headset by Fujitsu. |
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22:31 | <&McMartin> | https://imgur.com/gallery/MPSo00X |
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22:58 | < john_cephalopoda> | Hmm, considering to switch distros. |
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23:05 | <&[R]> | What are you on now, and what problems are you having? |
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23:19 | < john_cephalopoda> | Currently on CRUX. No serious problems, just a bit annoyed by the limited number of available packages sometimes. Writing ones myself is simple but it's always a bit of a hurdle to take. |
23:24 | < john_cephalopoda> | Hm, getting late. Night. |
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23:47 | <&[R]> | Immediate thoughts are either Void Linux or https://fleshless.org/pages/spark.html (if someone wants to share this when he gets back) |
23:48 | <&[R]> | Otherwise Gentoo if he wants to continue compiling everything |
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