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| 19:06 | < abudhabi> | One of the things I dearly hate is online stores that don't actually let you pay them to get the goods, because of some technical quirk or other bullshit (like region-locking). |
| 19:10 | < abudhabi> | For example, I would like to pay to stream some TV show I got recommended. Just shut up and take my money, or at least be extremely up-front (you have my IP!) that you don't serve my kind. |
| 19:12 | < abudhabi> | But no, I'm being led on until the payment stage, where bloody Paypal has to tell me that no, my card is registered in Europe, and this site doesn't do business with anyone outside the US. |
| 19:13 | < abudhabi> | And people wonder why so-called piracy is so popular. Not only have they got you beat regarding price, but also they actually bloody let you have the content. |
| 19:17 | <&[R]> | <abudhabi> And people wonder why so-called piracy is so popular. Not only have they got you beat regarding price, but also they actually bloody let you have the content. <-- it amazes me how much the US' MAFIAA bitches about Canda being a bastion of piracy while they geolock all this shit from us |
| 19:17 | <&[R]> | Like, HELLO? Get a fucking clue |
| 19:18 | <&[R]> | Like I was on bittorrent.com looking to PAY to torrent some stuff, but like 99.9999% of it was geolocked to the US |
| 19:18 | <&[R]> | Then they wonder why that venture imploded |
| 19:19 | <&[R]> | Thanks for making blank CDs more expensive here you fucking cunts |
| 19:20 | <@Tamber> | It's hard to get someone to understand something, when their paycheck relies on not knowing it. |
| 19:23 | <@ErikMesoy> | ...I don't think that's the right saying when the someone is turning down money. |
| 19:27 | < abudhabi> | ErikMesoy: I think Tamber is suggesting that the regulatory bodies to blame for this (and I bet they are to blame) have something to gain from region-locking. |
| 19:28 | < abudhabi> | The stores aren't blameless, though. Their interfaces for informing you that you are a second-class citizen are extremely shoddy. |
| 19:29 | < abudhabi> | This is especially egregious when they do accept your money, but due to your region, you get a post-account-creation limited offer that doesn't include the thing you wanted. |
| 19:29 | < abudhabi> | I'm looking at you, H-dive. |
| 19:32 | < abudhabi> | Another one that I remember well is 23andme being retarded about its international offers. I got redirected in loops when trying to buy one of their products that is available to the world at large. |
| 19:32 | < abudhabi> | Because they have a product that is exactly the same, but also directed at the internal US market, and someone apparently messed up the webpage for that use case. |
| 20:05 | <@gnolam> | Weeeeell. In that /particular/ case I have no sympathies. |
| 20:05 | <@gnolam> | Because 23andme. |
| 20:07 | < abudhabi> | No sympathy for them or me? :V |
| 20:17 | <@gnolam> | For you in that case. |
| 20:18 | <@gnolam> | Because there it's more "saved by the bell". |
| 20:25 | < abudhabi> | Why? |
| 20:30 | <@gnolam> | Uh. |
| 20:30 | <@gnolam> | They're, like... a *parody* of a predatory dystopian company, except they're actually for real, and you were about to give them your DNA - for them to give away to everyone else. |
| 20:35 | <&[R]> | They're the seeds to a horrible dystopia and have no qualms about accelerating everything that is innately horrible about their bussiness model |
| 20:35 | <&[R]> | Much like all of these DNA kit companies |
| 20:38 | < abudhabi> | I see. |
| 20:41 | <&[R]> | https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/11/judge-said-police-can-search-dna-millions-americans-without-their-consent-what-s-next |
| 20:41 | <&[R]> | https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/all-in-the-family-dna-investigation/85-179895c9-1b7e-4e93-8ab4-beae25a44a79 |
| 21:57 | <&Reiver> | Have they started selling the DNA markers to insurance companies to adjust your premiums yet? |
| 21:59 | <&McMartin> | This is, for the moment, illegal in the US as it violates the community rating provisions of the Affordable Care Act |
| 21:59 | <&Reiver> | ... so we're saved only from it due to Obamacare? |
| 22:00 | <&McMartin> | It is conceivable that somebody's lobbyists might have tried to ban it otherwise |
| 22:01 | <&McMartin> | But tailoring premiums to individual patients has been illegal for over ten years |
| 22:01 | <&McMartin> | Now, if everyone in a geographic region is related to each other you could get around it that way |
| 22:02 | <&McMartin> | But (a) this is not true and (b) if it were you would not need DNA analysis to learn what to do with your premiums |
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