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| 06:36 | <&McMartin> | https://i.redd.it/to6n8o3ir3h41.jpg |
| 06:44 | <~Vorntastic> | Wrong |
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| 09:19 | <&Reiver> | Does anyone have a tool for throwing together a quick custom deck of cards and then drawing at random from it? |
| 09:20 | <~Vorntastic> | I can write that in Python pretty quick |
| 09:20 | <~Vorntastic> | Like ten minutes |
| 09:21 | <&Reiver> | Which is why I was suprised it's not out there with the same convinience as, like, die rollers on teh internet |
| 09:21 | | * Reiver hms |
| 09:22 | <&Reiver> | Is it complicating scope much to have it able to be fed files with lists of cards? |
| 09:22 | <&Reiver> | (That way I can wrestle a CSV or whatever instead of needing to edit source code while assembling multiple decks) |
| 09:23 | <~Vorntastic> | Man I wish I knew where I put my files teaching Kaura to code |
| 09:23 | <~Vorntastic> | Because it was literally the program I had him write |
| 09:23 | | * Reiver has indeed tried learnin Python. Like, three times now. |
| 09:23 | | * Reiver should probably try once more, but... eesh |
| 09:24 | | * Reiver has the ADD meaning he picks up basic syntax, starts attempting to assemble meaningful suites of algoratms, then hits, like, one implementation detail (regex are a classic), gets handed the /tools/ to solve it, and collapses, because he was already trying to learn the first tool, dangit. |
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| 09:26 | <~Vorntastic> | Do you want me to try teaching you |
| 09:28 | <~Vorntastic> | (not right now, of course, but in general) |
| 09:30 | <&Reiver> | I mean |
| 09:30 | <&Reiver> | we've tried twice before |
| 09:31 | <~Vorntastic> | Fuck, have we |
| 09:31 | <&Reiver> | Yup |
| 09:31 | <~Vorntastic> | Welp |
| 09:31 | <&Reiver> | ISTR one time failed because I needed, basically, a linked list and for some reason dictionaries weren't good enough |
| 09:32 | <&Reiver> | And this then demanded a rearchitecture and the whole thing fizzled |
| 09:32 | <&Reiver> | And then the next one fell apart at the point I was left As An Excersize To The Reader and hit a regex and that was that |
| 09:32 | <&Reiver> | There has been another time with a regex as well which likewise failed |
| 09:32 | <&Reiver> | And that's been the list to date |
| 09:34 | <&Reiver> | Which is fair enough - #Code definitely has a bias to 'hand people tools, not answers', but in the case of especially regex it has a nasty habit of simultaneously being mission critical /and/ a whole new thing to learn with no relevant reference points |
| 09:35 | <&Reiver> | So I get stuck on trying to figure that one out and then the whole project collapses and that was Program #1 and so I get frustrated and go do something else less productive with my time |
| 09:35 | <&Reiver> | And by the time I'm feeling better about my inability to learn, like, two things at once any more, I've forgotten everything I learned the first time~ |
| 10:12 | <~Vorntastic> | But yeah the one I made with Kaura was awesome, it was while interactive cli program |
| 10:12 | <~Vorntastic> | And had like half a dozen tools |
| 10:14 | <~Vorntastic> | We also ran into an actual bug in the Python runtime |
| 10:21 | <&Reiver> | O.o |
| 10:21 | <&Reiver> | That's quite the trip |
| 10:21 | <&Reiver> | You know what? Sure, let's try again. |
| 10:21 | <&Reiver> | If anything else we can be quite certain it's doable, because it's been done before. |
| 10:22 | <&Reiver> | And I could use a little card shuffler as a one-off tool for Axes & Anvils. |
| 10:22 | <&Reiver> | I mean I could do without it just as easily by making a list in Excel and hitting randomise, but where's the fun in that~ |
| 10:24 | <~Vorntastic> | Question: do any of the cards have names that start with numbers |
| 10:27 | <~Vorntastic> | (magic the gathering follows this rule; a standard deck does not if you write as, say, "2 of hearts") |
| 10:29 | <~Vorntastic> | Well, before we get there: are there multiple cards of the same name in the deck |
| 10:33 | <~Vorntastic> | Also, I promise that there's no regex in this. |
| 10:33 | <~Vorntastic> | The Coolest Trick In Computer Science, though |
| 10:34 | <&Reiver> | There will be no duplicates, and I will be defining the names so can choose to put in numbers or avoid it if desirable |
| 10:35 | <&Reiver> | (The cards in question are also available in a table that numbers them for die rolls you see) |
| 10:35 | <~Vorntastic> | Okay with no duplicates that's more effort |
| 10:36 | <&Reiver> | I uh |
| 10:36 | <&Reiver> | Decks of cards do not usually have duplicates? |
| 10:36 | <~Vorntastic> | Er |
| 10:36 | <&Reiver> | Oh, magic, I see |
| 10:36 | <~Vorntastic> | I meant, without duplicates, one of the plans I had would have been more effort than it's worth |
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| 10:39 | <&Reiver> | Ah, this is a trick in which "2 of hearts" means "We have 2x Hearts cards in the deck" or some such? |
| 10:40 | <~Vorntastic> | Well, it would have turned that into two copies of "of hearts" but yeah |
| 10:50 | <~Vorntastic> | I'm working on architecture so we don't have to fuck with it later |
| 10:50 | <~Vorntastic> | But I'm also on my phone and at work and tired~ |
| 10:52 | <&Reiver> | legit |
| 10:52 | <&Reiver> | cheers vorn <3 |
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| 14:16 | < Pink> | L systems kinda blow my mind even more now that I'm learning how they work |
| 14:18 | <~Vorntastic> | Yes they're pretty wild |
| 14:28 | < catalyst> | L systems? |
| 14:32 | <~Vorntastic> | Fortunately Wikipedia's article is very good on this |
| 14:36 | < catalyst> | mm, stochastic |
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