| --- Log opened Wed Jan 15 00:00:20 2020 |
| 00:41 | < ToxicFrog> | PascalCase for types, kebab-case for everything else~ |
| 00:52 | <&McMartin> | Have not heard kebab-case before for the lisp standard, I accept this |
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| 00:56 | <&McMartin> | https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/01/patch-windows-10-and-server-now-because-certificate-validation-is-broken/ |
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| 01:43 | <&McMartin> | Note: if you've set Windows to normally ignore or defer "non-critical updates", this isn't actively being exploited yet so it's still only "important" instead of "critical" -- you'll probably want to prioritize today's Patch Tuesay. |
| 01:43 | <&McMartin> | *Tuesday |
| 01:44 | <&[R]> | Apparently the NSA "found" this |
| 01:44 | | * [R] suspects they no longer needed that feature |
| 01:45 | <&[R]> | So this is all a good publicity thing for them now |
| 01:45 | <&McMartin> | It's comforting to pretend that every massive fuckup was somebody's conspiracy |
| 01:46 | <&[R]> | Last time I suggest that MS couldn't produce not fucked up things people yelled at me, I'm just hedging bets here |
| 01:48 | <&McMartin> | The code responsible for the Shellshock exploit in bash was published for 25 years before anyone noticed. |
| 01:48 | <&McMartin> | It's *true* that MS can't produce not fucked up things, but this is hardly a quality unique to them. |
| 01:49 | <&[R]> | Yeah |
| 01:53 | <@gnolam> | Something something Debian OpenSSL keys. |
| 01:53 | <&McMartin> | My favorite case is the case in (openSSL?) where someond fixed a flagrant programming error and this made all the generated crypto keys trivial to brute-force crack. |
| 01:54 | <&McMartin> | Because it was relying on uninitialized data |
| 01:54 | <&[R]> | systemd, steam, that game that did the Windows version, all doing `rm -rf /` |
| 01:54 | <&[R]> | Actually systemd could be listed a few times |
| 01:54 | <&[R]> | <McMartin> My favorite case is the case in (openSSL?) where someond fixed a flagrant programming error and this made all the generated crypto keys trivial to brute-force crack. <-- gnolam beat you to mentioning that |
| 01:54 | <&McMartin> | I wasn't positive that was the same case~ |
| 01:55 | <&[R]> | The Debian packager ran valgrind and was trying to remove warnings |
| 01:55 | <&[R]> | Though TBF, relying on uninitialized data is pretty WTF |
| 01:55 | <&[R]> | Especially for a security product |
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| 02:16 | <@Reiv> | It was a source of entropy. |
| 02:17 | <@Reiv> | Maybe not unassailable entropy, but 'good enough' is presumably a convinience. |
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| 13:37 | <@sshine> | all the sales representatives have had their titles bumped, so "key account managers" are now "senior key account managers", for which the acronym (SKAM) means "shame" in Danish. |
| 13:41 | <~Vornicus> | never mind what it means in danish |
| 13:46 | <@sshine> | in Danish the word for developer is "udvikler", so I changed my job title to "indvikler" which means "complicator" |
| 13:47 | <@sshine> | (in truth, though, I refactor and delete more than I add.) |
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| 14:24 | <@TheWatcher> | ... so you have skammers doing sales. Awesome. |
| 14:24 | <@TheWatcher> | I support this Truth In Business approach to things!~ |
| 15:06 | <@sshine> | ;-) |
| 15:06 | <@sshine> | we only skam the most important clients. |
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| 21:43 | <&McMartin> | I suppose it should not be a huge surprise that the German word for "developer" is close to the Danish, but it is interesting that "Entwickler" sounds closer to the Danish for "complicator". |
| 21:55 | <@ErikMesoy> | Does German not have separate out- and in-wickling? :p |
| 21:55 | | * ErikMesoy feels a sudden urge to write Ent Wickler on a joke business card. |
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