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| 09:58 | | * TheWatcher fingertappity, sets mysql to deleting some 40 million rows of junk from a database, thumbtwiddles |
| 10:59 | <&jeroud> | One of my colleagues did that a couple of months ago. |
| 11:04 | <&jeroud> | The data science team was very confused about why their numbers suddenly looked very different. |
| 11:05 | <&jeroud> | (He'd forgotten to tell them that he'd archived it and where they can find it.) |
| 11:16 | <&Reiver> | snerk |
| 11:16 | <&Reiver> | OH GOD WHAT DID YOU oh it's in an archive, ok |
| 11:55 | <&jeroud> | The archiving was a planned thing that everyone knew about, not precisely when. |
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| 12:47 | <@TheWatcher> | This was just extranous data in piwik/matomo - almost 4GB of access data we didn't need |
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| 14:01 | <@TheWatcher> | Good fucking gods |
| 14:01 | <@TheWatcher> | Mediawiki LDAP auth is a sodding trainwreck |
| 14:03 | <@sshine> | I just spoke with a recruiter on the phone, and he asked me "How good at C# are you, for example?" and I just don't know how to respond. so we came up with a 1-10 scale where 10 was "the guy who was best at C# at my old job". but still, I find it very difficult to differentiate between language proficiency, proficiency within a language paradigm, and general problem-solving ability. |
| 14:03 | <@TheWatcher> | Used to be you had one extension, LdapAuthentication, that was really well documented and just bloody worked. |
| 14:05 | <@TheWatcher> | Now they've gone Full Enterprise on the damned thing, and you have 6 different extensions all doing different bits of the work, with documentation that can't be described as shit because that would be an insult to the common turd |
| 14:07 | <@sshine> | haha. a sales guy just came up and said "wow, your screens look like you're a hacker!" and I said "watch this. $(cmatrix)" -- I've been waiting a year for someone to request it. |
| 14:07 | <@TheWatcher> | Heee |
| 14:08 | <@sshine> | how do you guys rate your own language/tech-specific skills? |
| 14:08 | <@sshine> | I mean, if it were a framework (drupal, django, rails), there'd be definite value in putting that down. |
| 14:08 | <@sshine> | but I don't know how you're "good at C#". I mean, I landed a C# job saying "I know Java, and they're pretty much the same, right?" and they agreed and hired me. |
| 14:09 | <@sshine> | I mean, I say what languages/tech I've used at my old jobs, and I say what languages/tech I'd like to work with. but saying "I know these 20 languages" seems like a combination of bragging / exaggerating, and I don't like either. |
| 14:10 | <@sshine> | also, I don't mention that I worked for years with Drupal and that I was responsible for Windows servers at my old job because I wanted to be the guy to insert 384GB of RAM sticks into one machine. :-D |
| 14:22 | <~Vorntastic> | That's a decent amount of ram |
| 14:24 | <@sshine> | it was enough RAM for me to volunteer as tribute. |
| 14:24 | <@sshine> | the next time, however, I'll probably ask what maintenance tasks inserting the RAM entails. ;-) |
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| 19:39 | <&jerith> | sshine: "I have contributed code to both CPython and pypy" usually does the trick. ;-) |
| 19:42 | <&jerith> | I once got to one-up someone who was trying to wave his "I am responsible for so much hardware" phallus around by casually remarking that it takes an annoyingly long time to deploy control plane updates to ten thousand machines in three datacentres. |
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| 20:02 | <&McMartin> | sshine: I generally state years of experience, and if they want to drill down, experience with specific subsets of a language or platform. |
| 20:03 | <&McMartin> | This is important for me, because while at this point I have, for example, five years of experience with Objective-C |
| 20:03 | <&McMartin> | One would usually also conclude from that that I also have similar levels of experience with Cocoa and the tooling surounding it |
| 20:04 | <&McMartin> | But no, my focus was on the "talk to the OS and the hardware, not the user" end of the iOS/macOS libraries |
| 20:04 | <&McMartin> | So that's something else I need to also point out |
| 20:04 | <&McMartin> | And even within Cocoa |
| 20:04 | <&McMartin> | We used to do a coding challenge that boiled down to "build a tiny application based around this one somewhat complicated widget" |
| 20:05 | <&McMartin> | This turns out to be an interview question that we nowadays would consider "trivia question", and the result bear it out, in that if you look at individual developers' responses to it, it would take between one hour and three days |
| 20:05 | <&McMartin> | And that's clearly "OK, you 'know Cocoa', but did that include this one class" |
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