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| 08:15 | <&McMartin> | https://twitter.com/JenMsft/status/1105462523745067008/photo/1 |
| 08:15 | <&McMartin> | I've made two of these three jokes before, but now I've got a third. |
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| 09:41 | <&McMartin> | Argh, what the fuck is wrong with this build system |
| 09:42 | <&McMartin> | Why are my unit tests catching bugs that the compiler should be flagging as errors, but isn't even identifying as warnings unless I build it for desktop instead of the actual platform it runs on |
| 09:42 | <&McMartin> | With the same compiler |
| 09:47 | <~Vorntastic> | Wild |
| 09:48 | <&McMartin> | This is not technically-incorrect-and-mattered-on-some-test-cases shit |
| 09:48 | <&McMartin> | This is "control reaches end of non-void function" |
| 09:48 | <&McMartin> | This is "refactoring corrupted the text to the point that there's a random function call where it shouldn't be, with the wrong number of arguments" |
| 09:49 | <~Vorntastic> | Wtfx |
| 09:49 | <&McMartin> | That latter turns out to be a call directly into the ObjC runtime, and the violence you have to do to C to get it to *accept* the primitives of the objc runtime are pretty extreme |
| 09:50 | <&McMartin> | So I can see where ARM vs x86_64 might actually matter there |
| 09:50 | <&McMartin> | But the only warnings Xcode is finding here are of the form "you haven't annotated these APIs to make them Swift-friendly" |
| 09:51 | <&McMartin> | Now that I'm running it through make (which calls into Xcode's compiler, thankyouverymuch) there are... a lot more issues here that really should be addressed |
| 09:54 | <&jerith> | McMartin: Maybe some stale build cache stuff? |
| 09:54 | <&McMartin> | My working theory is that CMake is turning off a lot of Very Important Options when it generates Xcode projects, as opposed to when it generates Makefiles. |
| 10:17 | <&McMartin> | ... OK, after passing this through sort and uniq, the 961 issues Xcode was missing have dropped to, um. 61. |
| 10:17 | <&McMartin> | Some of which are Actually Pretty Important and I'm a little vexed they weren't caught |
| 10:17 | <&McMartin> | Though some of them, given the level of C++ experience the team has, I'm not surprised passed code review. |
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| 10:18 | <&McMartin> | Total set of warnings is 147 warnings, but basically five categories of issue that boil down to "do this in all places in the code you have to" |
| 12:44 | <&ToxicFrog> | `mkdir /mnt/☺ /mnt/☹` |
| 13:03 | <@TheWatcher> | ... why would you do this? |
| 13:07 | <&jerith> | ... why wouldn't you? |
| 13:09 | <@TheWatcher> | Because surely `mkdir /mnt/☃` is the superior path! |
| 13:10 | <&ToxicFrog> | TheWatcher: I'm riffing on the tweet McMartin quoted earlier |
| 13:10 | <@TheWatcher> | Ooh |
| 13:12 | <~Vorntastic> | Don't forget `/mnt/🕴️` |
| 13:15 | | * TheWatcher ponders a directory of Bohemian Rhapsody remixes with the name ☈☇😱 |
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| 17:10 | | * jerith has just discovered that this code he's struggling with *doesn't* actually fit in his head. :-( |
| 17:18 | <~Vornicus> | :( |
| 17:18 | <~Vornicus> | vornonoi fits in my head, thank god |
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| 17:42 | <&jerith> | This mostly doesn't fit in my head because I'm making vast sweeping changes to it. |
| 17:43 | <&jerith> | So I need to keep both old and new state. |
| 17:46 | <&jerith> | I discovered that it didn't fit by spending a couple of hours trying to debug a problem and failing because some key pieces of information had fallen out of my head without me noticing. |
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| 23:03 | < Pinkhair> | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/497872424281440267/630143934940839936/42gyr1spwoq31.png |
| 23:06 | < ErikMesoy> | Also, closed as duplicate of previous glass. |
| 23:08 | | * Alek snerks. |
| 23:08 | <@Alek> | whereas previous glass has been abandoned for years, unanswered. |
| 23:09 | <&McMartin> | The glass is completely full; half with water, half with air |
| 23:11 | < Emmy> | Not only is the glass a stupid question, it's also a glaringly obvious security issue |
| 23:12 | < Emmy> | because glasses can shatter! |
| 23:12 | <&McMartin> | Your glass is also twice as large as it needs to be |
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| 23:41 | < Yossarian> | Long shot: does anyone have a Lenovo Thinkpad T440p? |
| 23:42 | < Yossarian> | Emmy: plastics are strong but... the production of plastic "glasses" are bad for the environment! |
| 23:45 | < Emmy> | McMartin: scaled for growth |
| 23:45 | < Emmy> | ehh, depends on how often you use them |
| 23:45 | < Emmy> | after all, producing glass require quite a bit of energy as well |
| 23:57 | <&McMartin> | Hm. Can you actually get blowable glass with preindustrial solar technology? |
| 23:58 | | * McMartin reads about glass. |
| 23:58 | <&McMartin> | Well, fused quartz, probably not. |
| --- Log closed Sun Oct 06 00:00:17 2019 |