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| 07:59 | | * gnolam flails at The Hardest Problem. |
| 08:01 | <~Vorntastic> | Fancy_wismo |
| 08:04 | <@gnolam> | Naming Things is hard enough without the people requesting the feature changing their minds halfway through about what the feature should actually be. :P |
| 08:05 | <@ErikMesoy> | CustomerNames_Feature |
| 08:33 | <@gnolam> | Ehh, that gives me sebA/sebB/sebC vibes. |
| 08:34 | <@ErikMesoy> | What are those? |
| 08:41 | <@gnolam> | There was a project Derakon worked on where the previous developer had just named things after himself instead of anything descriptive. |
| 08:41 | <@gnolam> | Like sebA.py, sebB.py, sebC.py, etc. |
| 08:44 | <@ErikMesoy> | I can see how that would be a problem. |
| 08:44 | <~Vorntastic> | Oh my God I had blocked that from my memory |
| 08:46 | <@gnolam> | Anyway, https://i.imgur.com/HxbyfpZ.png |
| 08:49 | <&McMartin> | <3 |
| 09:19 | < Pink> | I guess seb heard of namespaces but decided the name said it all? |
| 09:20 | <~Vorntastic> | I mean my code is often named after me, like I have a lib named vornmath |
| 09:21 | <&McMartin> | Also Vornonoi, and Vorns Ahoy, and several other things |
| 09:21 | <~Vorntastic> | But that at least tells you what I'm after |
| 09:21 | <~Vorntastic> | Crossvorns |
| 09:21 | <&McMartin> | To be fair Vornonoi is the only possible name for that project |
| 09:21 | <&McMartin> | Also presumably you are already aware of this |
| 09:21 | <~Vorntastic> | Oh yes |
| 09:21 | <&McMartin> | But there is a brand of floor and desk fans by the name of VORNADO |
| 09:22 | <~Vorntastic> | I own one~ |
| 09:22 | <&McMartin> | Also, it is worth noting that the sebcode was not merely sequential letters. |
| 09:22 | <&McMartin> | They meant things about the modules |
| 09:22 | <&McMartin> | sebH, for example, was the module that held the "helpful" functions. |
| 09:23 | <~Vorntastic> | C'mon |
| 09:23 | <&McMartin> | This is technically no worse than the sadly omnipresent Utils.py module |
| 09:24 | <~Vorntastic> | Technically |
| 09:29 | <~Vorntastic> | I need to add more neat shit to vornmath but that's fallen off the back of the stove again |
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| 15:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | https://github.com/Apple-FOSS-Mirror/Libc/blob/2ca2ae74647714acfc18674c3114b1a5d3325d7d/gen/wordexp.c#L192 |
| 15:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | tl;dr apple libc implements (or used to implement) POSIX.1 wordexp(3) by shelling out to perl. |
| 15:20 | <~Vornicus> | what. |
| 15:33 | <@TheWatcher> | ahahahahha |
| 15:33 | <@TheWatcher> | That's awesome |
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| 17:28 | < Yossarian> | $ sobriety.sh -l |
| 17:28 | < Yossarian> | 349 days, 23 hours, 28 minutes, 5 seconds |
| 17:28 | < Yossarian> | 4 'errors' accumulated |
| 17:37 | <~Vornicus> | ??? |
| 17:48 | <&[R]> | Errors being prescribed stuff? |
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| 19:59 | <&[R]> | # sed 's/$'"/echo \\\r/" input.txt > output.txt |
| 19:59 | | * [R] cringes |
| 20:00 | <&[R]> | From: http://www.xappsoftware.com/wordpress/2009/04/09/dos2unix-using-sed-how-to-remove-m-chars-from-a-dos-file/ |
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| 20:02 | <&[R]> | `echo | sed 's/$/\r/g' | xxd` and `... | sed 's/\r$//g' | xxd` are what you'd want |
| 21:17 | <&McMartin> | [R]: I don't remember the exact invocation, but I remember someone won an Obfuscated Perl context with a dos2unix implementation |
| 21:17 | <&McMartin> | ... in zero lines of Perl |
| 21:18 | <&McMartin> | Because you could make it happen with commandline options alone, none of which were -e |
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| 21:39 | <&[R]> | Nice |
| 21:40 | <&[R]> | If you make a certain assumption, you can do it with tr |
| 21:40 | <&[R]> | Or cut (but that'll damage the data even more if the assumption is wrong |
| 21:41 | <@Reiv> | what's this? |
| 21:41 | <&McMartin> | Some of my lazy retrocomputing lately has involved the 8-bit Atari systems, which for some godforsaken reason uses 0x9b as its newline |
| 21:41 | <&McMartin> | Reiv: Conversion from DOS/Windows/Internet Standard \r\n line endings to \n Unix ones. |
| 21:41 | <&[R]> | Reiv: https://termbin.com/fqwd |
| 21:43 | | * Vornicus checks c64, 0x0d |
| 21:44 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, \r alone was the microcomputer standard |
| 21:44 | <&McMartin> | And honestly |
| 21:44 | <&McMartin> | Most early DOS programs I can think of used \r as being the "real" return. |
| 21:45 | <&McMartin> | Definitely in BASIC if you were trying to print a newline you did it with PRINT CHR$(13). |
| 21:45 | <&McMartin> | Er, in GW-BASIC |
| 21:46 | <&McMartin> | Now I'm curious if that was a BASIC quirk or not. |
| 21:46 | <&McMartin> | \r alone is now usually marked as "Mac newline" despite the fact that no Mac has used bare \r as a newline for approximately 20 years |
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| 21:55 | | * McMartin looks at man perlrun |
| 21:55 | <&McMartin> | OK, I can't get it to work |
| 21:56 | <&McMartin> | But I'm pretty sure that dos2unix in zero lines of perl involves both -p, -l, and -i. |
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