| --- Log opened Mon Feb 18 00:00:32 2019 |
| 00:32 | <@Alek> | McMartin, I was considering springing the $300 for a 2060 instead... :P |
| 00:33 | <@Alek> | but can't really justify THAT with the crap machine I still have. |
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| 03:11 | | * McMartin nods |
| 03:11 | <&McMartin> | Like, at some point I'm going to spring for a complete hardware refresh |
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| 03:11 | <&McMartin> | And I'm finding myself really reluctant to crack $1500 for the entire budget |
| 03:12 | <&McMartin> | I don't think a 2060 is going to make sense there either. |
| 03:17 | <@Alek> | I basically need a PSU, CPU, mobo, and set of RAM. the rest I have. Well, I'd keep the PSU too but it IS about 10 years old... |
| 03:18 | <@Alek> | anything else, like a second SSD for games and a small one for swap drive, would be just bonus. :P |
| 03:21 | <&McMartin> | Not sure if I'm going to need to upgrade the monitor. It's too old for HDMI input. :P |
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| 05:36 | <&McMartin> | woohoo |
| 05:36 | | * McMartin commits a glorious travesty |
| 05:36 | | * McMartin had his assembler output a complete bootable disk image |
| 05:36 | | * McMartin also had the disk image be 144 bytes long |
| 05:37 | <&McMartin> | totally gross |
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| 06:35 | <@Alek> | O_o |
| 06:41 | <&McMartin> | There's nothing *special* about a disk image as a target, really; it's not that far from making a file that you can directly load into an emulator (which indeed is what you do with disk images!) |
| 06:42 | <&McMartin> | I'd just never actually done this before, and the Atari disk format is flexible enough that it will not complain if you tell it that this is an unusually shitty disk that only has one sector on it. |
| 06:42 | <&McMartin> | (The program is just a little Hello World thing, there's no reason for it to take up more than one sector) |
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| 11:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | whoops |
| 11:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | I started writing a blog post for one of my projects and in the process I realized that it's all wrong and needs to be completely redesigned |
| 11:56 | <@TheWatcher> | Wait, you have a blog? |
| 12:04 | <@TheWatcher> | https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1097376503141146624 .... |
| 12:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yes, although I only recently revived it after a two-year hiatus |
| 12:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | http://toxicfrog.github.io/ |
| 12:11 | <@TheWatcher> | Oh, yay, it has RSS. |
| 12:26 | <~Vorntastic> | Yay |
| 12:26 | | * TheWatcher hairpulls at students using node and express while possessing absolutely no idea about servers, http, and damn near anything web-related |
| 12:33 | <~Vorntastic> | I glanced at node and decided to run in the other direction |
| 12:33 | <&ToxicFrog> | TheWatcher: it does! Because someone on another net asked for it :P |
| 12:34 | <~Vorntastic> | Part of this I suspect it's personal prejudice: I feel like it makes it hard to tell where code is running sometimes |
| 12:35 | <~Vorntastic> | And so I end up preferring to have quite different languages client side and server side |
| 12:36 | <@TheWatcher> | vorn: node is a cavern of spiders. I need to look after half a dozen systems that use it, and wrote something in it a while ago as an exercise, and it's a fucking trainwreck |
| 12:37 | <~Vorntastic> | Though I suspect this can be problematic in certain applications, because it means (since I don't think full state should need to cross the wire every time, really) that a good part of the app code needs to be reduplicated |
| 12:38 | <~Vorntastic> | Hmm, checking something |
| 12:39 | <~Vorntastic> | I suppose there asm.js which a lot of things seem to be able to target. |
| 12:39 | <@TheWatcher> | Given the choice between node and python for web dev, I'd choose python, even though the language gives me a headache. |
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| 17:45 | | * Vornicus takes a page from jerith, and does the obvious thing to make sure that the invariants remain respected via unit tests: actually test the goddamn invariants |
| 17:46 | <&jeroud> | Yup. Test the things that need testing. |
| 17:46 | <~Vornicus> | I was having trouble because, uh |
| 17:47 | <~Vornicus> | I had a static setup. If I tested essentially entry by entry, I'd be recapitulating the thing in the code exactly |
| 17:47 | <&jeroud> | What language? |
| 17:47 | <~Vornicus> | lua |
| 17:47 | <&jeroud> | So Hypothesis probably won't help you. |
| 17:47 | <~Vornicus> | But the thing is - in previous attempts, *the setup I had written was wrong* |
| 17:47 | <&jeroud> | Property-based testing ftw. |
| 17:48 | <~Vornicus> | thus so too were the tests! |
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| 19:19 | | * Vornicus stuffs a really ridiculous number of invariants in there. And he hasn't even gotten to the ones about actual geometry! |
| 19:28 | <~Vornicus> | 61 lines. There are a surprising number of things that must always be true. |
| 19:40 | <~Vornicus> | Okay. Red tests means write code. |
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| 21:57 | <~Vornicus> | and tests are green once more. hell yes. |
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| 23:40 | <&McMartin> | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyqBpMgV4AAlz6j.jpg:large |
| 23:43 | <@Reiv> | oof |
| --- Log closed Tue Feb 19 00:00:34 2019 |