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| 11:11 | | * TheWatcher would dearly love to find whoever decided `crontab -r` should a) be a thing and b) require no confirmation and place their figgin on a spike. |
| 11:11 | <@TheWatcher> | (relatedly: horay for backups!) |
| 11:12 | <~Vorntastic> | And their non-figgin on a different spike? |
| 11:15 | <@TheWatcher> | Quite. |
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| 13:37 | <&[R]> | TheWatcher: Paul Vixie I'm guessing |
| 13:37 | <&[R]> | Dillon's cron doesn't have -r, it has -d instead |
| 13:38 | <&[R]> | Which likewise doesn't seem to need a confirmation |
| 13:38 | <&[R]> | crontab file [-u user] replace crontab from file |
| 13:38 | <&[R]> | crontab - [-u user] replace crontab from stdin |
| 13:38 | <&[R]> | There's also those |
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| 22:35 | <@iospace> | so |
| 22:35 | <@iospace> | job hunting |
| 22:35 | <@iospace> | find listing |
| 22:35 | <@iospace> | "Typical work week is 8-5, M-F" |
| 22:36 | <@iospace> | ok, some allowances for "welp some OT is needed, I-" |
| 22:36 | <@iospace> | "Some evenings and weekends work as well as on-call status" Yeah no |
| 22:37 | < Mahal> | depends on the role.\I mean that's a requirement in my job description as a systems / network engineer |
| 22:37 | < Mahal> | some evening & weekend work for upgrades, oncall, etc. If I was a die-hard 8-5'er I'd be shit at my job. |
| 22:37 | <@iospace> | yeah |
| 22:37 | <@iospace> | this is a "programmer analyst" job |
| 22:37 | <@iospace> | almost certainly paying salary |
| 22:38 | <@iospace> | meaing lol get fucked if you want OT |
| 22:39 | <@iospace> | oh, and under technical skills: "Skilled in the use of an Integrated Development Environment (IDE) such as Eclipse and the development languages associated with the IDE such as C# or Java" |
| 22:39 | < Mahal> | o.O |
| 22:40 | <&McMartin> | How is that a butts-in-seats job and not a deadline job |
| 22:41 | <&McMartin> | (Also I do know one person who hires people in your area but I haven't heard back from them yet; if you can shoot me a link to a CV or something I can be more aggressive about forwarding...) |
| 22:41 | <&McMartin> | (Er, 'your area' being geographic. I have no idea if his group is hiring, but he might know some people, I guess?) |
| 22:42 | < Mahal> | man, I don't even remember what country you're in, iospace |
| 22:42 | <@iospace> | US |
| 22:45 | <@iospace> | McMartin: which area, mine or Mahal's? |
| 22:45 | <&McMartin> | Yours |
| 22:45 | <@iospace> | Looking to move to Milwaukee? |
| 22:48 | <@iospace> | I'm in that weird doldrum of "too much exp for entry level, but probably too little for senior" (3 years professional experience total) |
| 23:02 | <@iospace> | BUT |
| 23:02 | <@iospace> | I also have a BS Comp Sci and an Associates of Applied Science in Electrical Engineering Technology |
| 23:03 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, this does not sound like a shitty resume, but it also sounds like you need specific introductions that ordinarily I would not be in a position to make :) |
| 23:07 | <@Reiv> | McMartin: Sometimes it's a butts-in-seats job because they want you to be sitting around and available to be interrupted by whatever the Really Urgent Thing Of The Day is |
| 23:07 | <@Reiv> | This is, literally, why I come to work and work my hours -_- |
| 23:08 | <@Reiv> | And why WFH arrangements are ad-hoc and occasional. |
| 23:09 | <@Reiv> | It's all about work flexibility, you see! If I need to schedule a plumber, sure! But I can't take a routine day of WFH every week, oh dearie me, what if they need me for a meeting or someone comes looking. |
| 23:09 | <@Reiv> | No, I need to be immediately available to be interrupted from whatever I'm doing. This is Progress. |
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| 23:36 | <@iospace> | last job was such shit |
| 23:37 | < Mahal> | I'm fortunate in the flexibility have here |
| 23:37 | < Mahal> | I choose not to work from home often, because *I* know I perform better in the office. |
| 23:37 | < Mahal> | but if I need to, I can. |
| 23:37 | <@iospace> | ok, so i miiiiiiight be looking at a job for Intel? |
| 23:37 | < Mahal> | and sick leave is hugely flexible. |
| 23:37 | <@iospace> | might? |
| 23:37 | <@iospace> | maybe? |
| 23:37 | <@iospace> | i had an initial phone screen with a placement agency working with them |
| 23:39 | <@Reiv> | good luck |
| 23:40 | <@Reiv> | Mahal: Yeah, the bit that really brasses me off here is that a) there are other departments in the organisation who /do/ allow WFH as a regular, X-days-a-week thing, why the hell isn't IT one of them, and b) we literally just went through an 'all options on the table' thing to try and improve parking issues around the building as our numbers keep i |
| 23:40 | <@Reiv> | ncreasing |
| 23:41 | <@Reiv> | We went "... You know, at least two of the three major teams in IS could transition to partial WFH and average out at two employees on site every day" |
| 23:42 | <@Reiv> | "Nah, we were more thinking ebikes and carpooling" |
| 23:42 | | * Reiv mumbles |
| 23:42 | < Mahal> | One o my colleagues has at least one day a week off work (too much leave). Two others have scheduled WFH days. Boss works 3 days /wk |
| 23:42 | < Mahal> | I choose not to formallly work from home often, because I can't trust myself to do so |
| 23:43 | <@Reiv> | I WFH really great |
| 23:43 | <@Reiv> | In small amounts |
| 23:43 | <@Reiv> | Let the work pile up then WFH one day to slog through the leave-me-alone bits |
| 23:43 | <@Reiv> | (Disclaimer: We're a team half the size we should be; work piles up by default) |
| 23:46 | < Mahal> | Yeah, my colleagues tend to lave the "don't intterupt me, assholes" stuff for WFH days |
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