| --- Log opened Wed Nov 28 00:00:05 2018 |
| --- Day changed Wed Nov 28 2018 |
| 00:00 | <&[R]> | I'm sure the lead dev for backets.io is |
| 00:01 | <@Alek> | I kinda meant in here. :P |
| 00:04 | <&[R]> | "lightweight" "runs in browser" |
| 00:06 | <&[R]> | ... |
| 00:07 | <&[R]> | "lightweight" "written by ADOBE" |
| 00:07 | <&[R]> | I find that claim incredibly dubious |
| 00:11 | | Kindamoody|afk is now known as Kindamoody |
| 00:11 | <@Alek> | written in javascript, yet... |
| 00:50 | | * iospace mauls Alek and [R] |
| 00:52 | | celmin|away is now known as celticminstrel |
| 00:53 | <@celticminstrel> | McM: I kinda meant reading the file in my own program in order to extract a PICT image. |
| 00:54 | <&McMartin> | Oh |
| 00:54 | <&McMartin> | Uh, I can post the python script I used, I guess... |
| 00:55 | <@celticminstrel> | Does it use the struct module? If so I suppose it could be useful to see... |
| 00:55 | <@celticminstrel> | The program in question is written in C++, so I can't use any of the code directly, but... |
| 00:56 | <&[R]> | iospace: ? |
| 00:56 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, it's python with struct |
| 00:56 | <&McMartin> | http://mirror.informatimago.com/next/developer.apple.com/documentation/mac/MoreToolbox/MoreToolbox-99.html was the reference I used |
| 00:56 | <@iospace> | don't mind me |
| 00:56 | <@iospace> | :D |
| 00:56 | <&McMartin> | But it's slightly inaccurate about the where the type list starts |
| 00:56 | <&McMartin> | So here was my resource enumerator |
| 00:57 | <@celticminstrel> | Another thing that would be nice to have is documentation of sit files, though I imagine that might be a bit harder to find... |
| 00:58 | <&McMartin> | https://gist.github.com/michaelcmartin/1014b62787f2d8f5305d4a1c0d499ca4 |
| 00:58 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, I think .sit was proprietary |
| 00:58 | <@celticminstrel> | Exactly... |
| 00:59 | <&McMartin> | Anyway, that gist would take a binary representation of the resource fork and then pick it apart |
| 00:59 | <&McMartin> | If you look at the part where it's reading the length of a resource, that many bytes after the length is the resource itself. |
| 01:27 | <@Alek> | can someone please explain this to me? |
| 01:27 | <@Alek> | https://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_textarea_dirname.asp |
| 01:28 | <@Mahal> | Presumably relevant if you allow for RTL text input. |
| 01:29 | <@Alek> | ok, that's enough info in that direction, thanks. |
| 01:29 | | * Alek eyes this simple mail-form code. |
| 01:29 | <@Alek> | how to make it add a subject and send automatically without popping up the mail window? |
| 01:30 | <@Alek> | also, how do I make textarea NOT resizeable by mouse in the window? |
| 01:31 | <@Alek> | do I need to use the php version after all? I was hoping to avoid that. |
| 01:36 | <@Alek> | *sighs* looks like yes, I do need php. |
| 01:37 | <&[R]> | <Alek> how to make it add a subject and send automatically without popping up the mail window? <-- You mean how do you make it silently spam emails without letting the user know? |
| 01:37 | <@Alek> | btw, brackets seems to work just fine so far. decent wysiwyg and pretty good inline support for an attached css stylesheet, as well. |
| 01:37 | <@Alek> | R: ha. good point. |
| 01:53 | | * Alek gives in, uses a jquery/php combo, will have to learn enough php to make sure it's working once hosted somewhere. |
| 01:54 | <@Mahal> | You will find *very* quickly that one of two things happen |
| 01:54 | <@Mahal> | 1) it's rekt by scammers/spammers |
| 01:54 | <@Mahal> | 2) your host takes it down |
| 01:54 | <@Mahal> | or both |
| 02:03 | | * Alek GLARES at this couple of containers that insist on going on the left side of the window in spite of all he can do to center them. |
| 02:03 | | * Alek also glares at this other container that insists on overlapping the one above it. |
| 02:16 | | * Alek ALSO ALSO glares at the new form code, which added a ton of empty lines and he can't figure out how, or how to remove them. |
| 02:16 | | * Alek sighs. |
| 02:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | Aah, GUI programming |
| 02:18 | <@Alek> | HTML, but close enough. >_> |
| 02:22 | | * Alek looks at the growing list of requirements for testing this out on his own machine... |
| 02:22 | <@Alek> | what would you guys recommend for Baby's First Webserver? >_> |
| 02:23 | <@Mahal> | <cynical> these days I'd say "don't" |
| 02:25 | <&ToxicFrog> | Alek: if you just want static file serving, no server-side execution, nginx |
| 02:25 | <@Alek> | well, I'm gonna want php installed to test it, so that's some server-side execution, innit? |
| 02:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yes. |
| 02:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | You are entering a nightmare world from which there is no waking. |
| 02:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | Good luck. |
| 02:26 | <@Alek> | hah. |
| 02:26 | <@celticminstrel> | XD |
| 02:26 | <&[R]> | nginx + php-fpm works fine |
| 02:27 | <&[R]> | nginx supports FastCGI, php-fpm is PHP's official FastCGI server |
| 02:28 | | * Alek has even more complicated stuff down the line for this project alone. like a login with a code, not user+pass, to take people to a login area specified by the code. (couple-months temporary galleries for clients to view their photographs at and download them.) |
| 02:28 | | * Alek has had enough wrangling for the evening, though. |
| 02:28 | <@Alek> | thanks muchly |
| 02:28 | <&[R]> | If you want some non-PHP backend (nodejs, ruby, or python specifically) Phusion Passenger can be used as an nginx module that lets you run app-servers that it'll manage |
| 02:29 | <@Alek> | funny how that shortens to PhP, innit? :P |
| 02:29 | <&[R]> | *shrug* |
| 02:30 | | * Alek shrugs too. |
| 02:30 | <@Alek> | NOT having a good week, so far. |
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| 04:06 | <@celticminstrel> | I wonder if there's a way in PowerShell to ask the shell to wait for the process to terminate. |
| 04:06 | <@celticminstrel> | (A non-console process, in particular; if it's a console process it always waits anyway.) |
| 04:07 | <@Mahal> | which process are you asking it to wait for? |
| 04:07 | <@celticminstrel> | Wesnoth. |
| 04:08 | <@Mahal> | get powershell to query for the process then go from there? |
| 04:08 | <@celticminstrel> | ...sounds complicated. |
| 04:08 | <@celticminstrel> | FTR, the process is launched from the shell too. |
| 04:09 | <@celticminstrel> | But then it immediately gives control back to the shell. |
| 04:09 | <@Mahal> | get-process ? |
| 04:10 | <@celticminstrel> | If PowerShell supports && the same as bash does, then I suppose I could do something like "wesnoth && wait-for-wesnoth"... |
| 04:10 | <@celticminstrel> | Or even just "wesnoth; wait-for-wesnoth" assuming it supports that. |
| 04:11 | <@celticminstrel> | && wouldn't even make sense if it's not waiting for it, anyway... |
| 04:11 | <@Mahal> | while (get-process wesnoth).status notlike $null or something |
| 04:11 | <@celticminstrel> | Hmm. Okay, I'll give that a try later. |
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| --- Log closed Thu Nov 29 00:00:09 2018 |