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| 03:54 | <@macdjord> | abudhabi: ... your /actual/ password? Not a randomly generated temporary one? Why are you doing business with these muppets? |
| 04:43 | <@Alek> | Vorn: there /was/. unfortunately. :( |
| 05:14 | | Derakon is now known as Derakon[AFK] |
| 05:22 | <@celticminstrel> | I kinda want to know WTH macdjord is talking about... |
| 05:28 | <@macdjord> | PMed. |
| 05:29 | <@celticminstrel> | I saw. |
| 05:29 | <@celticminstrel> | Wow. |
| 05:29 | <@celticminstrel> | Anyway, I must now sleep, for presumably obvious reasons. |
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| 07:52 | <@abudhabi> | macdjord: Was not aware of these gems before going into business with them. |
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| 13:08 | < Vornotron> | Hooray tests make life nice |
| 13:20 | < Vornotron> | also remembering to clean up potentially circular references makes things cost way less memory |
| 13:33 | < Vornotron> | Now I can find polys that aren't working correctly and see if I can figure out what it's doing to make that happen. It's perfectly consistent in its failure at least. |
| 14:50 | < Vornotron> | "is this still right?" *space bar* "yes!" |
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| 17:24 | | * abudhabi fights the good fight to get Yahoo to stop blocking the company mail server. |
| 17:24 | <@abudhabi> | We've got everything but rDNS and Yahoo considers us spammers. |
| 17:30 | < Emmy> | what a bunch of yahoos. |
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| 18:39 | < Vornotron> | aaaaaargh I have discovered the problem |
| 18:41 | < Vornotron> | Okay! Let's see if I can characterize this. |
| 18:43 | < Vornotron> | 1. we're clipping a polygon and have two distant points in the polygon's list. |
| 18:44 | < Vornotron> | This isn't *terribly* uncommon, though, so there's more that's going on |
| 18:46 | < Vornotron> | 2. we generate the intersection with the clipping plane and it picks the wrong distant end of the clipping plane |
| 18:49 | < Vornotron> | We have a true line that passes through finite space and The Line At Infinity and since The Line At Infinity gets a double cover there's two "intersections" that are truly the same |
| 19:05 | < Vornotron> | Okay. Knowing this I can *sort* of get there from here, though it's another damn special case. ...uh... ah. Okay. If the intersection is Distant, so are the poly points; I can dot with their sum (which turns out to be on the short/near side of the LaI) and if it's negative switch it to the other side. Uuuuugh. |
| 19:06 | < Vornotron> | Yeah. All right this sounds like it makes sense. |
| 19:19 | < Vornotron> | I don't *like* it at all |
| 19:21 | < Vornotron> | There Must Be A Better Way. |
| 19:36 | < Vornotron> | Oh! the right one is the one with the positive cross with first |
| 19:50 | < [R]> | abudhabi: rDNS is actually one of the major checks, so it's something you should have had setup already |
| 19:55 | <@abudhabi> | [R]: Nobody except Yahoo complained. And we learn now that rDNS costs extra to run. |
| 19:55 | < [R]> | lolwut |
| 19:55 | < [R]> | It was free for my bussiness internet |
| 19:55 | <@abudhabi> | I asked our web hosting and DNS provider. Gib 300 bucks/yr. |
| 19:57 | < [R]> | That's quite a bit more than it should cost. Is that letting you host the PTR records of your entire IP block? |
| 19:57 | < [R]> | Or is that still them hosting that and letting you call in to change the value? |
| 19:57 | | * [R] has to call in and change the value |
| 19:58 | <@abudhabi> | I don't know. I told them I want rDNS for <our IP> to <our mail server domain> and they said $300. |
| 20:08 | < [R]> | I'd ask what's all included in that package, seems pretty pricey. |
| 20:21 | < Vornotron> | aaahaaha, got you. Silence at last, and vornonoi now provides correct voronoi diagrams after clipping |
| 20:22 | < Vornotron> | Next: a better visualization. |
| 20:22 | < Vornotron> | ...tomorrow. |
| 20:22 | < Vornotron> | I need to shower and sleep for I have to work tonight |
| 21:32 | <@TheWatcher> | abudhabi: ... |
| 21:32 | <@TheWatcher> | bloody hell |
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| 21:51 | <@abudhabi> | TheWatcher: Highway robbery, yes/no? |
| 21:53 | <@TheWatcher> | I get rdns for free for my home internet. $300 is insane. |
| 22:06 | <&McMartin> | Hey SQL users - is "cursor" still live terminology for an index into a result set? |
| 22:17 | <@TheWatcher> | As far as I know it is, yes. |
| 22:19 | <@TheWatcher> | (Mysql/mariadb, oracle, and postgres all use the term in current docs, so) |
| 22:20 | | * McMartin nods |
| 22:20 | <&McMartin> | OK then |
| 22:21 | | * McMartin has encountered it in some very old programming books, where it's used as a substitute for pointers in languages that have arrays but not pointers or indeed references |
| 22:36 | | * TheWatcher finally gets search working correctly in DELIA GLOBE SILVER |
| 22:37 | <&McMartin> | That reminds me, I finally got enough context to get the terrible joke hidden in "BASHFUL INCENDIARY" |
| 22:41 | <@TheWatcher> | Heheh. Stross knows his old comics! |
| 22:42 | <&McMartin> | Well, it's more that Persephone Hazard was in fact explicitly a Modesty Blaise stand-in |
| 22:42 | <&McMartin> | (And was named for someone he met in a bar and promptly asked to make use of her name for a secret agent type because HOW COULD ONE NOT) |
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