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| 04:34 | <&McMartin> | MY BLADE THIRSTS FOR NECKS |
| 04:34 | <&McMartin> | THE ROAD OF BLOOD AND BONE MUST BE PAVED |
| 04:34 | | * McMartin enters the dread command "emacs configure.proto" |
| 04:39 | <@celticminstrel> | ... |
| 04:39 | <@celticminstrel> | What. |
| 04:41 | <&McMartin> | Autotools is misbehaving and thus I must exact a horrific vengeance involving various dread rituals |
| 04:42 | <@celticminstrel> | Well I'd love to hear more but zzzzzz... |
| 04:43 | < [R]> | Autotools needs to die |
| 04:43 | <&McMartin> | Not my choice |
| 04:44 | < [R]> | Obviously |
| 04:44 | <&McMartin> | But yes, this is why I have no qualms about paving my wake with the mangled bodies of those who set my path |
| 04:44 | <&McMartin> | And because coding is inherently kind of tedious there is of course also a duty to make it sound like a heavy metal album cover |
| 04:45 | <&McMartin> | \m/_(>_<)_\m/ |
| 04:59 | | * macdjord sentences McMartin to Python Purgatory |
| 05:00 | <&McMartin> | Beats M4 hell |
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| 05:05 | < [R]> | m4 seems kind of useless |
| 05:05 | < [R]> | I was hoping it was some kind of text templating library |
| 05:05 | <&McMartin> | Maybe if you squint real, real hard |
| 05:06 | < [R]> | But to use it as such, you have to jump through a ton of hoops to the point where you're better off using bash as a templating engine. |
| 05:06 | < [R]> | (And I have used bash as a templating engine) |
| 05:09 | | * [R] looks at wikipedia example |
| 05:10 | < [R]> | Having ` open a quote and ' close one is absurd |
| 05:11 | <@macdjord> | [R]: I've seen that, occasionally, in plaintext. |
| 05:11 | <@macdjord> | It's horrible. |
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| 05:12 | <&McMartin> | So, yeah, all the autotools scripts are M4-based and they all suffer from varieties of needing to escape your bash-based arguments a varying number of times to prevent things from going berzerk |
| 05:13 | < [R]> | macdjord|slep: Right. But this is in *code*. It makes me think there's an obvious error, but nope. m4 processes it just fine. |
| 05:13 | < [R]> | I hope that's simply a convenience thing and not an actual requirement |
| 05:14 | < [R]> | NOPE |
| 05:14 | < [R]> | WTF |
| 05:14 | < [R]> | D: |
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| 05:20 | <&McMartin> | Remember, GNU tools are so good that anyone who uses them will fall in love with freedom forever and abandon all other tools to use theirs exclusively |
| 05:20 | <&McMartin> | To do otherwise would be to hate freedom |
| 05:22 | < [R]> | lol |
| 06:05 | <~Vornicus> | what |
| 06:16 | < [R]> | GNU tools are randomly pretty crap |
| 06:16 | < [R]> | Autotools is a shining beacon of that |
| 06:30 | <&McMartin> | Vornicus: |
| 06:30 | <&McMartin> | "To improve the use of proprietary systems is a misguided goal. Our aim, rather, is to eliminate them. We include support for some proprietary systems in GNU Emacs in the hope that running Emacs on them will give users a taste of freedom and thus lead them to free themselves." |
| 06:31 | <&McMartin> | From https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html |
| 06:32 | <&McMartin> | Strictly speaking, my paraphrase above is too generous |
| 06:33 | <&McMartin> | It's not the quality of the software that will make them fall in love with it forever, but the fact that they are constrained in different ways by the license |
| 06:41 | <&McMartin> | In other news, o_O. |
| 06:41 | <&McMartin> | Bumbershoot Software hit a pageview record today. |
| 06:49 | <&McMartin> | Also, release! https://bumbershootsoft.wordpress.com/2018/09/25/release-lights-out-for-the-atari-2600/ |
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| 07:15 | <@abudhabi> | Can I mark a package as DO NOT UPDATE EVER? |
| 07:20 | < [R]> | With? |
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| 07:26 | <@abudhabi> | [R]: I don't understand the question. I don't want Chrome/Chromium to be updated past 68. |
| 07:28 | < [R]> | "Package" implies you're using a package manager. |
| 07:28 | < [R]> | You asked a question that requires knowledge of which package manager you're using to answer it. |
| 07:29 | <@abudhabi> | You could have just assumed dpkg. :V |
| 07:29 | < [R]> | I like to assume people like themselves |
| 07:30 | < [R]> | apt-mark hold chromium |
| 07:30 | < [R]> | Supposedly |
| 07:31 | < [R]> | https://www.tecmint.com/disable-lock-blacklist-package-updates-ubuntu-debian-apt/ <-- there's a few other ways in that |
| 07:43 | <@abudhabi> | That's a rather incredible assumption. :V |
| 07:45 | <@abudhabi> | Thanks, anyhow. |
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| 11:30 | | * gnolam flails at the Hardest Problem. |
| 11:31 | <@gnolam> | ... wait, rubber ducked it |
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