code logs -> 2018 -> Sat, 08 Sep 2018< code.20180907.log - code.20180909.log >
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08:47
<&McMartin>
Hooray, my Atari project is now fully playable
08:47
<&McMartin>
619 bytes!
08:48
<&McMartin>
Though at the moment it cannot actually tell if you have won, but the way it makes new games is such that it kind of doesn't have to
09:04
<~Vorntastic>
It should make a stupid noise
09:04
<&McMartin>
yes
09:04
<&McMartin>
I have it all picked out
09:05
<&McMartin>
Also if you have won or not started it should randomly change the foreground and background colors every four seconds, as seen in Combat and Space Invaders
09:06
<&McMartin>
And then, finally, I have a bunch of unused screen and ROM space and I'm going to attempt The Penultimate Technique to have a high-res title graphic.
09:06
<&McMartin>
The Penultimate Technique is described at https://lparchive.org/Solaris/Update%2010/ among other places
09:35
<~Vorntastic>
If that's the penultimate technique, what's the ultimate technique
09:35
<&McMartin>
It's a technique about penultimates
09:35
<&McMartin>
(It exploits a mode where the graphics displayed are the second-most-recent write to the graphics register)
09:37
<&McMartin>
It was *intended* to let you have your graphics loop last 152 cycles instead of 76 without halving your vertical sprite placement resolution, but two years before The Great Crash it got repurposed for super-high-res score displays
09:37
<&McMartin>
... and then the console stayed in commercial support eight further years after the Great Crash
09:38
<&McMartin>
So basically all games of import for the console post Yars' Revenge, inclusive, use that trick and basically nothing uses VDEL for its intended purpose but Combat and Breakout
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09:39
<&McMartin>
did that get through up through Breakout?
09:39
<&McMartin>
hopefully tastic stayed around
09:42
<~Vorntastic>
Yes
09:43
<~Vorntastic>
Lines end with register, displays, crash, breakout
09:43
<&McMartin>
that's all of them
09:48
<~Vorntastic>
So, there is no Omnislash
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10:02
<&McMartin>
Not as such no
10:04
<@abudhabi>
Hrm. I need to upgrade libcairo2 past what my package manager thinks is stable. What's the easiest way to do this? I need it for the new version of MySQL Workbench.
10:09
<&[R]>
For one machine or plural?
10:09
<@abudhabi>
One machine.
10:10
<&[R]>
Make a new package with the updated version, that way when upstream has a version that's even newer, it'll update seamlessly and properly.
10:11
<@abudhabi>
I'm not sure what that means.
10:12
<@abudhabi>
How do I make a new package?
10:12
<&[R]>
What's your package manager?
10:13
<@abudhabi>
I use aptitude usually. There's also apt-get, and Mint's graphical update manager.
10:13
<@abudhabi>
For this operation, I'm using gdebi to try to install mysql workbench.
10:13
<&[R]>
So... dpkg
10:13
<@abudhabi>
It tells me that, "
10:13
<@abudhabi>
"Dependency is not satisfiable: libcairo2 (>= 1.15.8)".
10:14
<@abudhabi>
Yeah.
10:15
<&[R]>
Honestly, your best option is to look up how to make an RPM package then use alien to convert it.
10:15
<&[R]>
Making a .deb normally is needlessly complicated
10:17
<@abudhabi>
What if I simply obtain the deb of the version I need and install it?
10:17
<&[R]>
That might work, depends on the compilation environment and options of that package
10:19
<@abudhabi>
Or I could try to find a different mysql client.
10:20
<&[R]>
Or run it in a Docker container
10:20
<@abudhabi>
I have very little experience with docker.
10:20
<&[R]>
Or in a chroot of another distro or an updated distro
10:21
<&[R]>
https://fleshless.org/pages/spark.html <-- provides a rootfs tarball
10:22
<&[R]>
Gentoo stage3 would also work I think
10:35
<@abudhabi>
Or I could just switch over to my Windows machine and install WB there.
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23:25
<&[R]>
Windows never ceases to amaze me how much lag it has between having a USB device plugged in and it being usable
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