| --- Log opened Mon Jul 30 00:00:56 2018 |
| 00:01 | <&[R]> | It's not a real service |
| 00:01 | <&[R]> | It's just the GNAA (supposedly) being stupid any annoying |
| 00:04 | < Mahal> | well yeah, I realise that, it just amuses me. |
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| 00:22 | < deltam> | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ |
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| 00:22 | <&McMartin> | I do find the joke wears thin the fiftieth time |
| 00:24 | <@TheWatcher> | "Current number of AKILLs: 757" |
| 00:24 | <@TheWatcher> | Yeah, it's getting slightly ridiculous. |
| 00:26 | <&[R]> | Use the ssh thingy? |
| 00:27 | <&[R]> | <WorldPeace> hi friends. would this help mitigate the current botnet spam that slashnet (among other networks) is receiving? https://github.com/kaniini/antissh |
| 00:27 | <&[R]> | (Also normally I would advocate against clicking anything WorldPeace linked, but this time it's a good link) |
| 00:28 | <@TheWatcher> | I tend to have ethical problems with attempting to open connections to hosts that haven't granted me permission to do so. |
| 00:30 | <@TheWatcher> | Call me old-fashioned. |
| 00:40 | <~Vornicus> | the funny thing is the botnets *also* point at that very antissh repository, I guess trying to poison the well? |
| 00:42 | <~Vornicus> | it is legitimately what it says it is but, well, i'm kind of old-fashioned myself |
| 00:46 | <@TheWatcher> | Yeah, that, too. I really wonder about that one. |
| 00:47 | <@TheWatcher> | But ugh, it's 0:47, I should at least attempt to sleep |
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| 01:37 | < Shanmugamp7> | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ |
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| 02:22 | < lutoma> | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ |
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| 03:12 | < LadyElusive5> | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ |
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| 05:36 | < sujeet> | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ |
| 05:36 | < sujeet> | Make sure to report this IP to any DNSBLs you might think of! That'll totally stop the flood. https://dronebl.org/ I also recommend installing https://github.com/kaniini/antissh |
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| 06:23 | <&McMartin> | I have a strange urge to create a butt-ugly default-widgets X11 program and use as many of the super-dumb built-in cursor types like GUMBY and BOGOSITY as possible. |
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| 06:52 | < caf26> | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ |
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| 07:31 | < ablackack> | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ |
| 07:31 | < ablackack> | Make sure to report this IP to any DNSBLs you might think of! That'll totally stop the flood. https://dronebl.org/ I also recommend installing https://github.com/kaniini/antissh |
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| 07:46 | < KleinerMann> | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ |
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| 07:55 | <&McMartin> | Can we update the server-level Slayer script? |
| 07:55 | <&McMartin> | THE WISP WILL FIND THEM, THE HOOK WILL FOLLOW |
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| 08:28 | <&McMartin> | The stars are bioluminescent crabs clinging to the Crystal Sphere! Cheese is made of spiders! |
| 08:29 | <&McMartin> | This upcoming post about higher-order functions at the bare metal is getting a certain "run down the street screaming terrible truths that are being ignored" vibe to it |
| 08:31 | <&McMartin> | ("Closures are just objects with one method in their vtable! Displays are a strict subset of lambda lifting transforms!") |
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| 09:34 | < Mahal> | Christ. I used urlscan.io to see what was at that URL. |
| 09:34 | < Mahal> | Wish I hadn't. |
| 09:40 | <&McMartin> | Is that a malware scanner or a content filter? |
| 09:42 | <&McMartin> | Maybe I just shouldn't ask and rely on killbot |
| 09:43 | < Mahal> | urlscan.io is "is there malwares here at this destination?" and takes a screenshot for you. |
| 09:44 | < Mahal> | I use it a lot at work as "is this a phishy link or a legitimate one?" tool |
| 09:44 | < Mahal> | https://urlscan.io/result/3721a62f-33df-47f7-b4bd-488500948068 if you don't value your eyeballs. |
| 09:44 | <&McMartin> | No, no, I quite do, so I shan't. |
| 09:48 | | * McMartin instead watches a speedrun about rescuing bunnies |
| 09:48 | <&McMartin> | Which does in fact run at a truly implausible speed. |
| 09:49 | <&McMartin> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZFJ04u_wfs |
| 09:52 | <@TheWatcher> | Mahal: are we talking goatse.cx levels? |
| 09:52 | < Mahal> | no |
| 09:52 | < Mahal> | just text I didn't want to read |
| 09:52 | <@TheWatcher> | Ah, okay |
| 09:53 | | * McMartin suggests the high-speed bunny-rescue link instead |
| 09:54 | | * TheWatcher recommends https://twitter.com/scamperbeasts/with_replies |
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| 20:09 | <&jeroud> | I have just had to inappropriately anthropomorphise some code. |
| 20:10 | | * VirusJTG offers jeroud a drink |
| 20:10 | <&jeroud> | Before I took my dive into the pit of raw sewage that is Go, I was somewhat dreading a bit of work I needed to do in my Elixir project. |
| 20:11 | <&jeroud> | Nasty tests, mostly. |
| 20:11 | <&jeroud> | There's also a very strange transient test failure that we haven't been able to reproduce locally. |
| 20:12 | <&VirusJTG> | I'm reverse engineering my empolyure's network. It has had 7 people running it over the past 12 years, of many differing skill levels, and it looks as such. |
| 20:12 | <&VirusJTG> | our I hate transient issues |
| 20:12 | <&VirusJTG> | oi* |
| 20:12 | <&VirusJTG> | they are my least favorite kind of issues |
| 20:12 | <&jeroud> | So this afternoon, I decide it's time to do the bit of work I've been dreading. |
| 20:12 | | * VirusJTG nods |
| 20:13 | <&jeroud> | Not only do I pretty much immediately find a clean way to make these terrible tests awesome, I also somehow manage to consistently trigger the transient test failure. |
| 20:14 | <&VirusJTG> | thats good news |
| 20:15 | <&VirusJTG> | that should give you a clear, or at least clearer idea on how to resolve it |
| 20:15 | <&jeroud> | Turns out it's a race condition, because the log entry we're capturing is logged from somewhere other than the code it's about and thus isn't guaranteed to be done when we expected. |
| 20:15 | <&jeroud> | So adding a 50ms sleep to the test should sort it out. |
| 20:15 | | * VirusJTG nods |
| 20:16 | <&jeroud> | But I have reached the conclusion that both of these things happening in under an hour means this code is trying its best to say "welcome back, I missed you!" |
| 20:17 | <&VirusJTG> | its never good when the computer knows exactly who you are... |
| 20:17 | <&jeroud> | It's so very nice to be back in a language that is well designed. |
| 20:18 | <&jeroud> | VirusJTG: My computers had better bloody recognise me. How else would they know when to be scared? :-P |
| 20:19 | <&VirusJTG> | lol |
| 20:19 | <&VirusJTG> | point |
| 20:19 | <&VirusJTG> | it seems that every time I dig into this network I find something else routing something that we didn't know did anything. |
| 20:20 | <&jeroud> | Yup, this is what happens when humans try to run things. |
| 20:21 | <&VirusJTG> | damn humans |
| 20:21 | <&jeroud> | We aggressively automate, and we can (in most cases) rebuild our infrastructure from scratch in under a day. |
| 20:22 | <&jeroud> | (It helps that we've deployed about half a dozen copies of it so far.) |
| 20:24 | <&jeroud> | Also, we're operating at about the edge of what a team of four can realistically manage. |
| 20:25 | <&jeroud> | Which is to say, well beyond the limits of what an *average* team of twenty could do. >:-) |
| 20:32 | <&VirusJTG> | lol |
| 20:32 | <&VirusJTG> | point |
| 20:32 | <&VirusJTG> | I'm the senior of a team of 2 |
| 20:32 | <&VirusJTG> | inhariting a system |
| 20:32 | <&VirusJTG> | run by many different minds |
| 20:32 | <&VirusJTG> | and it looks like it |
| 20:32 | <&VirusJTG> | I'll get it sorted |
| 20:32 | <&VirusJTG> | but it is going to take years |
| 20:34 | <&jeroud> | Just migrate everything to The Cloud. Give all your money to Amazon or Microsoft and let them make the problems go away. |
| 20:34 | <&jeroud> | (I can *almost* say that with a straight face. Just a little more practice...) |
| 20:35 | <&VirusJTG> | Tempting, but there are some things that won't fix... |
| 20:35 | <&VirusJTG> | I have to fix other things first before I can do that |
| 20:36 | <&jeroud> | (Also, please don't give your money to Google. It will be a long time before I can forgive them for Go.) |
| 20:37 | <&VirusJTG> | hehe |
| 20:37 | <&VirusJTG> | I can understand |
| 20:45 | <@ErikMesoy> | I still haven't forgiven them for killing Reader. |
| 20:46 | <&VirusJTG> | Yeah, that pissed me off too |
| 20:47 | <&VirusJTG> | I've been using newsblur as a replacement, it isn't as good as reader was, but it is a passible substitute. |
| 21:29 | <~Vorntastic> | Wheeee, math |
| 21:35 | < Mahal> | Occasionally we get execs excited by Cloud Everything |
| 21:35 | < Mahal> | They stop being excited when they find out how much more than on prem it costs |
| 21:36 | < Mahal> | (It’s damn near an order of magnitude more for the amount and kind of data we chuck around. On prem storage is still where it’s at for now) |
| 21:36 | <&McMartin> | itym "private cloud" :P |
| 21:36 | < Mahal> | (Plus the significant increase in commercial bandwidth needed) |
| 21:36 | < Mahal> | Hahahha |
| 21:37 | <&VirusJTG> | yeah |
| 21:37 | <&VirusJTG> | That issue right there |
| 21:37 | < Mahal> | We do leverage some cloud services :P |
| 21:39 | <&VirusJTG> | My main struggle right now is figuring out how all of this crap is put together, between what we control, what we lease and don't direcxtly control, and what we put in what cloud. |
| 21:39 | < Emmy> | thank god my boss is rather anti-cloud like me :D |
| 21:39 | <&VirusJTG> | Solar Winds is helping a lot in this endeavor, but it is a journey of learning. |
| 21:41 | <&McMartin> | What is "Solar Winds" in this context? |
| 21:41 | <&VirusJTG> | network mapping and monitoring software |
| 21:42 | <&VirusJTG> | it helps to idenfity what kind of device is connected to what other type of device, and if you have read access to the device (we don't for all of them) it can tell you on what physical port the connection is made |
| 21:43 | <&VirusJTG> | it isn't perfect, but it is far better than some other players in that field. |
| 21:44 | | * McMartin nods |
| 21:53 | <&VirusJTG> | Reverse engineering a network that has grown organicly over time is always harder than building it the first time |
| 21:53 | <&VirusJTG> | such is life |
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