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| 01:45 | <~Vornotron> | https://i.stack.imgur.com/DpbOz.gif /me is nerdy at stackexchange |
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| 08:14 | <&McMartin> | New Bumbershoot post, in which I revel in my ignorance |
| 08:14 | <&McMartin> | https://bumbershootsoft.wordpress.com/2018/07/10/looking-back-on-the-mac/ |
| 08:42 | <&[R]> | Using the filesystem to control UI elements without using some symlink like feature seems silly. |
| 08:42 | <&[R]> | Reading the OS X diary |
| 08:51 | <&McMartin> | Classic Mac OS, being Insanely Great (tm), did not bother with symlinks |
| 08:51 | <&McMartin> | That's filthy Windows 95 stuff |
| 08:52 | <&McMartin> | (You didn't have *have to* use symlinks for the 9x/XP/Vista/7 start menus, but it was a *pretty good idea* to.) |
| 08:53 | <&McMartin> | But yeah, even now, in macOS, Launchpad's list of UI elements is constructed directly from the contents of /Applications and those are the raw app bundles themselves, right there. |
| 08:58 | < Vorntastic_> | Classic Mac had "aliases" which were.. Not quite shortcuts |
| 08:59 | <&McMartin> | Shortcuts themselves were not quite symlinks, so~ |
| 09:10 | < Vorntastic_> | Indeed |
| 09:20 | <&[R]> | Right, which makes the way it sounds like they did it absolutely absurd, why not use aliases? |
| 09:23 | < Vorntastic_> | Partly because the standard method of installing an app on Mac iswas literally drag the app into the applications fooled |
| 09:24 | <&McMartin> | "Which is to say it's actually not all that great, the community is full of jerks with superiority complexes, the tutorial materials read like marketing, and terrible ideas are official recommendations. |
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| 23:29 | | * ToxicFrog tinkers with a translation facilitator for System Shock 1 |
| 23:31 | <~Vornotron> | TF: I assume you've seen that somebody put out a campaign mod for SS1? |
| 23:31 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vornotron: yes, and I've started playing it |
| 23:31 | <&ToxicFrog> | Someone else on the same net has started work translating it into a new language, but the existing tools for that are...inadequate |
| 23:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | (most of this is happening on the Night Dive Studios discord server) |
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