| --- Log opened Wed Apr 04 00:00:35 2018 |
| 00:05 | <@Tamber> | *amuses a little at the mention of ladder logic under "other programming languages"* |
| 00:06 | <&McMartin> | #51-#100 has significant churn indeed. |
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| 04:41 | <&McMartin> | "We recommend you upgrade your beep to boop" |
| 04:41 | <&McMartin> | https://twitter.com/dan_ballard/status/981163247721111552 |
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| 04:43 | <&[R]> | I'm guessing it's setuid 0? |
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| 04:44 | <&[R]> | I'm guessing it's setuid 0? |
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| 05:50 | <&[R]> | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhixgUqwRTjxglIswKp9mpkfPNfHkzyeN <-- watching this ATM |
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| 08:29 | <&[R]> | http://www.energymech.net/users/proton/ <-- some stuff McM might find interesting |
| 08:34 | <&McMartin> | That - in particular, twsinit - is relevant indeed to my interests |
| 08:35 | <&[R]> | Oh? |
| 08:35 | <&McMartin> | Once I finish my Genesis stuff, my next thing I plan on learning about is how a BIOS system goes from power on to actually being useful |
| 08:35 | <&McMartin> | That twsinit right there is a simplified tiny Last Step. |
| 08:36 | <&[R]> | There's also sinit |
| 08:36 | <&McMartin> | (First step is probably going to end up being "just read the syslinux source") |
| 08:36 | <&[R]> | Which is simpler |
| 08:36 | <&[R]> | https://core.suckless.org/sinit |
| 08:36 | <&[R]> | <3 syslinux |
| 08:36 | <&[R]> | Syslinux > grub > lilo |
| 08:37 | <&[R]> | Actually, in certain situations, I'd rather use lilo |
| 08:38 | <&[R]> | (Grub's strong tie to the BIOS boot order makes it impossible to install when the BIOS can only have on item in said boot "order") |
| 08:50 | <&McMartin> | Admittedly strong ties to BIOS is a feature for me at the start of this project |
| 08:50 | <&McMartin> | I guess BIOS counts as retrocoding now, doesn't it |
| 08:51 | <&McMartin> | And not just because it was introduced in 1981 and thus predates the Commodore 64 |
| 08:53 | <&McMartin> | Also, man, LILO |
| 08:53 | <&McMartin> | I think the last time I used LILO I was putting it on floppy disks |
| 08:58 | <&[R]> | To clarify, by "strong ties to the BIOS" I mean the disk you're installing GRUB to must /currently/ be in the BIOS boot order |
| 08:59 | <&[R]> | Which nothing else actually requires for the install step |
| 08:59 | <&[R]> | Also you need to know what position the thing is in in the current order |
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| 11:15 | < Vornlicious> | Whyyyy |
| 11:15 | < Vornlicious> | (re: grub) |
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| 17:01 | | * gnolam WTFs at openpyxl. |
| 17:03 | <@gnolam> | In its __init__.py it reads __version__ etc from a separate .json file. |
| 17:03 | <@gnolam> | Naturally, this fucks up any attempt at packaging and distribution. |
| 17:05 | <@gnolam> | The JSON file in question is a simple 1:1 string->string dictionary for the values. |
| 17:05 | <@gnolam> | Why. Just... why? |
| 17:07 | <@gnolam> | Instantiating a JSON parser to get a Python dictionary from *what is already a Python dictionary, because the syntax is the same*. |
| 17:07 | <@gnolam> | And then assigning values from said dictionary. |
| 17:08 | <@Tamber> | "But this way, it's not hardcoded!" |
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| 21:15 | <&ToxicFrog> | https://drawings.jvns.ca/distributed-systems/ |
| 21:46 | <&[R]> | D: going to need to run memtest on this system I think |
| 21:46 | <&[R]> | FF repeatedly segfaults when accessing websites (but interestingly enough not my main dailies) |
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| 21:54 | <&[R]> | https://drawings.jvns.ca/csrf/ <-- took me a while to understand "you can generate a random everytime a user logs in" |
| 22:03 | <&[R]> | "'C' stands for linerizable" wut |
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| 23:34 | | * Tamber ponder. |
| 23:36 | <@Tamber> | BCD-encoded date in, BCD decoded, decoded values `snprintf`'d to a string, which is fed to `strptime`, to produce a `struct tm`, which is fed to `mktime` to produce a UNIX time value. |
| 23:36 | <@Tamber> | Horrific, or just merely terrible~? |
| 23:37 | <@Tamber> | (I did try skipping the stupid dance with the strings, and populate a `struct tm` myself with the values I had, but it never seemed to give the right values on output.) |
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| --- Log closed Thu Apr 05 00:00:37 2018 |