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| 14:45 | | * VirusJTG eyes the software engineers |
| 14:45 | <&VirusJTG> | Just now overheard from software engineering |
| 14:46 | <&VirusJTG> | "That's not a bug, it's a Volkswagen" |
| 14:46 | | * VirusJTG continues to eye software engineering |
| 14:47 | | * Emmy snickers |
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| 14:52 | <&VirusJTG> | This leads me to a question, what monstrosity are they about to release into production? |
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| 14:53 | <@TheWatcher> | >.< |
| 15:01 | < Emmy> | VirusJTG: VW diesel emissions fraud software :P |
| 15:04 | <&VirusJTG> | I hope not |
| 15:04 | <&VirusJTG> | this is a FINTECH shop |
| 15:11 | <@TheWatcher> | https://i.imgur.com/kpTtT.gif |
| 15:12 | < Emmy> | well, you got to hide those payoffs somehow |
| 15:25 | <&VirusJTG> | lol |
| 15:26 | <&VirusJTG> | and people wonder why devs and sysadmins don't always get along.... |
| 15:26 | <@TheWatcher> | And why everyone hates devops >.> |
| 15:26 | <&VirusJTG> | yeah, not a fan of devops |
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| 18:45 | <&jeroud> | Are we talking the "devs are responsible for deployment and troubleshooting" devops, or "we've rebranded our ops team to get Agile points" devops? |
| 18:46 | <&jeroud> | (Hint: If "devops" is somebody's job description, you're doing it wrong.) |
| 19:10 | <&[R]> | Obviously the proper solution is to fire one team and have the other take over the role, then pocket the entire team's salary as a "bonus" |
| 19:10 | <&[R]> | IT people are IT people right? |
| 19:12 | | * Emmy is theoretically a devop? |
| 19:20 | <&[R]> | Is there any other person that is a dev and/or an op? |
| 19:24 | <&VirusJTG> | I R sysadmin |
| 19:28 | < Emmy> | for that one specific project, Not really. I develop and do the heavy lifting in support |
| 19:29 | < Emmy> | i've got a first-line colleague that can do some of the support and troubleshooting, but his knowledge of the product is rather shallow |
| 19:31 | <&VirusJTG> | jeroud to answer your question, devs doing code, build, test, and deploy dev ops, but also the devs trying to automate systems engineering's job with a lack of systems engineering knowladge |
| 19:31 | <&VirusJTG> | both forms of dev ops are known to raise my blood pressure and my wrath. |
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| 19:46 | <@Tamber> | "Sometimes it's devops, sometimes it's just psy-ops." |
| 19:50 | < McMartin> | I seem to think of devops as the people who build the automation systems as opposed to the people who exclusively wrangle them. |
| 20:07 | <@abudhabi> | Hmm. How do I change the style of a given XFCE terminal window only? Without affecting the general style? |
| 20:14 | <&VirusJTG> | I do not know |
| 20:14 | <&VirusJTG> | I would have to tinker with that one |
| 20:31 | <&jeroud> | I've always been responsible both for writing code and for running it in production. |
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