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| 04:14 | <&McMartin> | Oh gross, this sound chip has no envelope generator, and you have to step down each voice's volume manually if you want notes to fade |
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| 06:18 | | * McMartin gets it to play scales. |
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| 07:31 | < Vornlicious> | Hooray |
| 07:54 | <&McMartin> | Next: Multivoice playback, and then nyancat |
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| 11:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | Can I ask someone without a google-hosted email address to help me test something? |
| 11:43 | <@TheWatcher> | Sure |
| 11:44 | <@TheWatcher> | I run my own mailserver, so what do you need? |
| 11:45 | <&ToxicFrog> | I need to send you a bunch of messages from @ancilla.ca addresses, and then have you send me those messages with all headers intact. |
| 11:45 | <@TheWatcher> | Righto |
| 11:45 | <@TheWatcher> | Fire away |
| 11:45 | <@TheWatcher> | chris@starforge.co.uk |
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| 11:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | Thanks! It might be a minute, there is an Alex insisting on playing "Bigger Pharmas" |
| 11:48 | <@TheWatcher> | No worries, I'll be around until 13:00 GMT or so |
| 12:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | TheWatcher: ok, sent you seven test messages. |
| 12:02 | <@TheWatcher> | Okay, got them, one sec |
| 12:04 | <@TheWatcher> | And sent back :) |
| 12:04 | <&ToxicFrog> | Thank you! |
| 12:10 | <&ToxicFrog> | Ok. Verdict: mostly works but I have a bug report to file against GMAIL-SMTPD |
| 12:12 | < Vorntastic> | Now I'm curious |
| 12:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vorntastic: so, on inbound mail, gmail (including GAFYD) treats foo+bar@ the same as foo@ |
| 12:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | On outbound mail sent via SMTP things get a bit weird, apparently |
| 12:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | If the From: line matches one of that user's configured aliases, everything works fine |
| 12:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | If it matches one of the aliases with a + suffix, it strips the suffix and adds a Sender: Name <actual_username@host> header |
| 12:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | if it doesn't match any alias, it replaces the From: with the actual username |
| 12:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | In the latter two cases, no warning is given to the user that this will happen |
| 12:21 | <&ToxicFrog> | The mail is just silently sent with the wrong envelope and headers |
| 12:22 | < Vorntastic> | Aha |
| 12:23 | <&ToxicFrog> | The good news is that none of this appears to affect DKIM cleanliness or spamassassin's opinion of it in general. |
| 13:06 | <@TheWatcher> | I really should set up dkim on starforge |
| 13:06 | <@TheWatcher> | But not now, now I go for haircut |
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| 16:17 | <@mac> | Ahem. As I was saying... |
| 16:17 | <@mac> | Mahal: So, I ran the 'ping gateway; ping google' test you suggested. Gateway dropped approximately 2/3rds as many packets as google did; additionally, I managed to catch the disconnection that happened ~10 minutes ago, and it coincided with a bock of dropped-on-both packets, plus one 'General failure' which google tells me means 'no IP interface configured'. |
| 16:17 | <@mac> | I think this means the problem is solidly on the wifi side of things. |
| 16:18 | <@mac> | Any suggestions on how to further diagnose or correct it? 'Cause all I can think of is running a very long ethernet cable across the house. |
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| 16:27 | | * Vornotron looks into rikki, discovers it's written in...golang |
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| 16:36 | < Emmy> | mac: analysed wifi channels yet? |
| 16:36 | <@mac> | Emmy: How would I do that? |
| 16:37 | < Emmy> | take one smartphone, say, an android, download a wifi analyzer app |
| 16:38 | < Emmy> | those apps take a look at all the wifis you can receive and output it some graphical data |
| 16:38 | < Emmy> | allowing you to see if your wifi isn't overpowered by a lot of others on the same channel |
| 16:39 | < Emmy> | and then you can also walk about in the house and see if your reception has any 'dead spots' |
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| 16:41 | <@macdjord|slep> | Emmy: I'll try that; thanks. |
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| 18:10 | <@mac> | Emmy-Noms: Thank you for the suggestion. It does look like it might be channel saturation that's the problem. Unfortunately, /all/ the 2.5gHz channels are overloaded here, and our router doesn't support the 5GHz band. On the plus side, we now have a clear upgrade path. |
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| --- Log closed Sun Mar 18 00:00:50 2018 |