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| 13:02 | | * TheWatcher blinks |
| 13:02 | <@TheWatcher> | How did I not know about this? |
| 13:04 | <@TheWatcher> | From the chrome dev tools console, 'debugger;' will break stuff you've entered through the console like setting breakpoints through the sources tab would. So things like '$.ajax({ ...blabla..., success: function(result) { debugger;....blabla... }});' let you break and inspect the contents of 'result' |
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| 14:35 | <@TheWatcher> | Wait, how did this code ever work? |
| 14:55 | <~Vornicus> | duct tape and blood rites |
| 14:56 | <@TheWatcher> | Well, it is javascript |
| 14:56 | <@TheWatcher> | so, yeah |
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| 18:22 | <&McMartin> | JavaScript: Making Perl Look Good Since 1996 |
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| 18:41 | <&McMartin> | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/03/intel-outlines-plans-for-meltdown-and-spectre-fixes-microcode-for-older-chips/ |
| 18:41 | <&McMartin> | They're actually going far enough back to reach my old Windows desktop. |
| 18:52 | <&VirusJTG> | impressive |
| 18:55 | <&McMartin> | (Which is a Nehelem) |
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| 19:42 | <&McMartin> | https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode |
| 19:45 | <~Vornicus> | 1,671 issues, 278 pull requests |
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| 22:02 | <@macdjord> | Anyone have recommendations for internet connection health tracking software for Windows? My connection has been flaky for a while and I'd like something that would keep track of the various disconnections, slowdowns, high latency periods, etc., and tell me things like what times of day its happening most, is it between me and the wifi or between the router and the world, etc. |
| 22:05 | <&[R]> | EventLog? |
| 22:06 | <&[R]> | Also I think there's also a thing called "Performance Monitor" which logs to EventLog |
| 22:07 | <@macdjord> | [R]: I don't know where to find the information I need in eventlog. |
| 22:07 | <&[R]> | Yeah, I think you need to configure the other thing to watch the NIC |
| 22:09 | <&[R]> | Win+R: perfmon.msc |
| 22:10 | <@macdjord> | [R]: That looks like it could do what I need, but I have no clue how to actually make it do so. |
| 22:10 | < Mahal> | macdjord: wifi info is event viewer, applications and services logs, Microsoft, Windows, WLAN-Autoconfig |
| 22:11 | < Mahal> | Also, if you're sitting on a home network; basically goodluck. |
| 22:12 | < Mahal> | Neither Windows nor home-network equipment are designed with performance logging in mind. |
| 22:14 | <&[R]> | macdjord: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc961845.aspx <-- primer |
| 22:15 | <@macdjord> | Mahal: My expectation was that I'd install some software which would sit in the system tray and every 5s it would ping google.com and record if it got through, how long it took, if the wifi was connected or not, etc., and then at the end of the day I would open the program and get a nice graph of how many failure happened in each hour. |
| 22:19 | < Mahal> | That's a lovely idea, but that's not how wifi works~ |
| 22:20 | < Mahal> | Seriously, that's not actually a good way to analyse wireless performance. |
| 22:20 | < Mahal> | the reason being that it's more about local physics of the radio waves than anything else. |
| 22:20 | < Mahal> | Is there interference / noise? |
| 22:20 | < Mahal> | Is there other wifi in the area? |
| 22:21 | < Mahal> | 2.4ghz or 5? is there a microwave interfering with 2.4ghz? |
| 22:21 | < Mahal> | are there multiple devices and no QoS or poor airtime fairness causing poor user experience for one / other devices? |
| 22:21 | <@macdjord> | Mahal: AT this point, I'm trying to /figure out/ if the problem is my wifi or upstream. |
| 22:22 | < Mahal> | wireless *connectivity* at a raw level has about zero to do with wireless *performance* |
| 22:22 | < Mahal> | macdjord: got a network cable? |
| 22:22 | < Mahal> | (no, I'm not being facetious) |
| 22:23 | < Mahal> | you could just leave two pings running |
| 22:23 | < Mahal> | ping -t 192.168.1.1 (or wahtever your gateway is) and ping -t 8.8.8.8 |
| 22:23 | < Mahal> | (google) |
| 22:23 | < Mahal> | kill them after a few hours (ctrl C ) and compare statistics. |
| 22:24 | <@macdjord> | Mahal: The only ethernet port is on the router itself, which is at the other end of the house. I can move my laptop there to run a test, but it's not practical to leave it there all day just to see if this happens. |
| 22:25 | <@macdjord> | Mahal: It seems /really odd/ that there isn't a way to go 'Oh, hey, nightstar just pinged out. Hey wifi card, are you talking to the router right now?'. |
| 22:25 | < Mahal> | there is, it's called "ping 192.168.1.1" |
| 22:27 | <@macdjord> | Alright, I'll try that. |
| 22:27 | < Mahal> | (or whatever yourgateway is, I obviously don't know what it is) |
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