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| 10:12 | <@ErikMesoy> | Grrrrrr. Half-translated interfaces. |
| 10:12 | <@ErikMesoy> | [Your Menu] [Profil] [Give Feedback] [Logg Ut] |
| 10:17 | <&McMartin> | Du musst deine Backfressen geben! |
| 10:18 | <&McMartin> | (pretty sure feedback isn't actually Backfressen) |
| 10:19 | <&McMartin> | At appears to be "das Feedback" for the signal processing kind and "die Reaktion" for the kind tthere. |
| 10:19 | <&McMartin> | That also said "Logg Ut" totally isn't German. |
| 10:26 | < Vorntastic> | I'm going to make an interface where every single message is in a different language |
| 10:26 | <@ErikMesoy> | Du musst deine Konto ausloggen!? (Interface is half Norwegian.) |
| 10:27 | | * McMartin got a message in german indicating that some shared document had been downloadedl |
| 10:27 | <@ErikMesoy> | Vorntastic: also, make the same message be in different languages sometimes, that's what this junkpile does |
| 10:27 | <&McMartin> | Misdirected - the curse of having no numbers in your email address - but still legible. |
| 10:27 | <&McMartin> | and "heruntergeladen" is a pretty great word. |
| 10:28 | <&McMartin> | So we can also add, based on that, "use words that would be the right ones in an alternate universe where tech terms had different source languages" |
| 10:28 | <&McMartin> | So stuff can be netherladen instead of downloaded. |
| 10:28 | <&McMartin> | It also means that people posting messages from a guest account with no name attached would be doing so uncouthly |
| 10:29 | <@ErikMesoy> | the workflow overview here describes how reports can move from Test stage, to In Progress stage, to Done stage. |
| 10:29 | <&McMartin> | But I draw the line at fingerlike interfaces. |
| 10:29 | <@ErikMesoy> | the report stage manager, however, lets me select from Test, Under Arbeid and Utført. |
| 10:30 | <&McMartin> | "Under Arbeid" is easy to guess but "Utført" would defeat me |
| 10:31 | <@ErikMesoy> | performed, executed, literally "driven out" |
| 10:31 | <&McMartin> | ... I can see "driven out" now that you say it. |
| 10:34 | <@ErikMesoy> | literal germanicisms and anglishisms might also be fun to put on one of those silly interfaces |
| 10:34 | <@ErikMesoy> | "Push this button to drive the test. The test is now being driven. You will receive a notification when the test has been driven out." |
| 10:35 | | * McMartin surreptitiously checks a Norwegian grammar. "Oh hey, its complexity is worn down about as much as English's, just in different places" |
| 10:36 | | * ErikMesoy curiouses what exactly is meant by "a grammar" here. What points is it comparing? |
| 10:36 | <&McMartin> | Well, literally, the wiki page for "Norwegian language", and the part I was noticing was that verbs don't inflect based on person |
| 10:36 | <&McMartin> | But that some dialects do on number. |
| 10:37 | <&McMartin> | English almost completely lost it for number but preserves a special form for third-person-singular. |
| 10:38 | <&McMartin> | I think English also might have more participles but I'm not positive there. |
| 10:38 | <@TheWatcher> | I just misread the last sentence of the first paragraph on there; "Norwegian forms a dialect continuum of more or less mutually unintelligible local and regional variants"... |
| 10:38 | <@ErikMesoy> | well, yes, it does that too :D |
| 10:38 | <&McMartin> | North Germanic seems to have held together better than West Germanic did. |
| 10:39 | <&McMartin> | I'm pretty good at guessing German but Dutch is always a mystery until it's been explained (as per "driven out") |
| 10:40 | <@ErikMesoy> | Norwegian has a dialect continuum where the question "How?" may be rendered "Hvordan?", "Korleis?" and/or "Åssen?" depending on where you are |
| 10:40 | <@ErikMesoy> | very much "more or less" mutually intelligible :P |
| 10:41 | <&McMartin> | TheWatcher and I probably think of very different things when we first think of a boot |
| 10:41 | <@TheWatcher> | Actually, not any more |
| 10:41 | <&McMartin> | Oh? |
| 10:41 | <&McMartin> | I suppose in that case the footwear meaning also always existed. |
| 10:42 | <@TheWatcher> | First hit used to be footwear, but that was before I spent 10 years in a relationship with an American ;) |
| 10:42 | <&McMartin> | I was thinking "the car part Americans call a trunk" |
| 10:43 | | * McMartin also still "fondly" remembers a confused incident from San Diego many years ago, where it ultimately became clear that a Mexican Spanish word for "insect" was a Puerto Rican Spanish for "the male member" |
| 10:43 | <@TheWatcher> | ... see, I no longer really know which way around is which anymore |
| 10:43 | < Vorntastic> | Did you get a boot to the head? |
| 10:44 | <&McMartin> | "Tyveri sikret ("Theft guaranteed") instead of Tyverisikret ("Theft proof")" |
| 10:44 | <&McMartin> | <3 |
| 10:45 | <@TheWatcher> | (That said, remembering that "bonnet" is the british version of "hood" is easy, because Myst finds it ridiculous and hilarious.) |
| 10:45 | <&McMartin> | It does rather imply that there is a thriving industry in automobile millinery. |
| 10:45 | <@ErikMesoy> | ah, yes, the gramatically important spaces :D |
| 10:46 | <&McMartin> | I think from their list my favorite is "Altfor Norge ("Too Norway") instead of Alt for Norge ("Everything for Norway", the royal motto of Norway)" |
| 10:46 | <&McMartin> | Because "Too Norway" is clearly their answer to the game developer festival "No More Sweden" |
| 10:48 | <@TheWatcher> | (but beyond that, I've long ago given up trying to keep straight which words are the british and which are the american, and end up using one or the other without thinking.... which can be hilarious, as my accent has also drifted, so sometimes people think we're both american) |
| 10:48 | <@ErikMesoy> | a funny unlisted one is "kjempefå" (very few) vs "kjempe få" (receive giant) |
| 10:49 | <&McMartin> | (I am somewhat baffled by the fact that I grew up in the part of the US that currently defines American Newscaster English, and my parents were raised in the part of the US that had previously done so...) |
| 10:49 | <&McMartin> | (... and that several of the Brits I mostly deal with via text all averred that I "should" have a BBC English accent) |
| 10:49 | <&McMartin> | (... apparently the "newscaster" part translates?) |
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| 15:47 | <@gnolam> | GHAghaegkaghl |
| 15:49 | <@gnolam> | If I ever get a time machine, I will use it to go back in time and kill every single motherfucker who gets it in their head to invent the telephone. |
| 15:51 | <@gnolam> | USE EMAIL LIKE A SANE PERSON |
| 15:54 | <@abudhabi> | Someone insisting on voice chat? |
| 15:55 | <@TheWatcher> | Telephones are the work of satan |
| 15:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | gnolam: counterpoint: email and phones are both awful |
| 15:57 | <@abudhabi> | emailhatestheliving.flv |
| 15:57 | <@gnolam> | Only in the same sense that stubbing your toe and getting a quadruple amputation are both awful. |
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| 16:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | Breakfast cereals: Kellogg's For Loops, Special K-Combinator, Cheer I/Os, Korn Flakes, Grep Nuts |
| 16:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | (h/t Bard Bloom) |
| 16:21 | < Jessikat`> | ._. |
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| 16:22 | <&ToxicFrog> | :D |
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| 16:49 | < Jessikat> | Oh sweet, my custom hash map is about twice as fast as the standard one |
| 16:51 | <~Vornicus> | Sweet |
| 16:56 | <~Vornicus> | I wonder what kinds of loads you put on hashmaps where you're at |
| 17:14 | < Jessikat> | Keep wondering, I guess |
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| 19:49 | <&[R]> | Hmm, I cached the output of `find`, and it's almost a gig. |
| 19:50 | <&[R]> | (Also took a couple of hours) |
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| 20:05 | <&ToxicFrog> | [R]: is that the size of the locatedb, or the size of `find /`? |
| 20:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | My locatedb is only 24MB, which is way smaller than I expected. |
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| 20:12 | <&[R]> | find -ls > find.log |
| 20:12 | <&[R]> | So a little bit bigger than a standard find |
| 20:13 | | * ToxicFrog nods |
| 20:15 | <&[R]> | It's about 500MB once I strip out all the extra stuff -ls adds |
| 20:15 | <&ToxicFrog> | Is there a particular reason you're using find for this rather than locate/updatedb? |
| 20:19 | <&[R]> | Because this is for a large collection of data that I'm not really wanting regular access to, but want to filter through to sort it. |
| 20:20 | <&[R]> | Also I don't want some of this stuff leaking through locate, not just because then it'd be noise, but also because I don't want the other user to see it. |
| 20:21 | <&[R]> | Also I had an idea to run a program through the find results (this is why the -ls) and use that to build a size of each of the directories going from the deepest directories to the most shallow |
| 20:22 | <&ToxicFrog> | Aah. |
| 20:23 | <&ToxicFrog> | On size, `du` can already do that, or `ncdu` for interactive usage. |
| 20:23 | <&[R]> | Which option to du? |
| 20:25 | <&[R]> | Oh -t looks useful |
| 20:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | Without arguments it already displays cumulative per-directory size for everything; it sorts by name by piping it through something to sort by depth instead isn't hard. |
| 20:32 | <&[R]> | Okay, yeah, I should've checked du's man page |
| 20:32 | <&[R]> | Also the server doesn't have the -t option :/ |
| 20:32 | <&[R]> | Guess I'll run it on the local copy |
| 20:33 | <&[R]> | du -t 1G -BG |
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| 20:53 | <&[R]> | Weird, GNU du didn't have -t in 2011, but did have it by 2015 |
| 20:53 | <&[R]> | Wonder why it took them so long to impliment something like that |
| 20:54 | <&McMartin> | It was probably some kind of enemy to freedom |
| 20:57 | < Degi> | What is -t |
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| 20:57 | <@Tamber> | threshold -- exclude files smaller than SIZE if positive, or larger than SIZE if negative |
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