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| 18:01 | <&jeroud> | One day I will encounter a piece of cluster orchestration software that is easy to deploy and does what it says on the tin without any dealbreaker deficiencies. |
| 18:02 | <&jeroud> | Today was not that day. |
| 18:05 | <&jeroud> | Maybe I'm just doomed to reimplement every bloody component of this whole ecosystem and I should stop trying to find existing tools. |
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| 19:47 | <&McMartin> | The sobering realization that wheels were never invented in the first place. |
| 19:49 | < Vorntastic> | ?? |
| 19:49 | <&McMartin> | 10:01 <&jeroud> One day I will encounter a piece of cluster orchestration software that is easy to deploy and does |
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| 19:49 | <&McMartin> | what it says on the tin without any dealbreaker deficiencies. |
| 19:49 | <&McMartin> | 10:02 <&jeroud> Today was not that day. |
| 19:49 | <&McMartin> | 10:05 <&jeroud> Maybe I'm just doomed to reimplement every bloody component of this whole ecosystem and I should |
| 19:50 | <&McMartin> | stop trying to find existing tools. |
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| 19:50 | < Vorntastic> | Ah yes |
| 19:59 | < Jessikat`> | Cluster fuck you say |
| 20:04 | < Vorntastic> | Perfection |
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| 20:32 | <&jeroud> | I wouldn't even mind building all this shit if I had the team and budget to do it. |
| 20:33 | <&jeroud> | But my team is too small to even keep up with our non-building-all-this-shit workload. |
| 20:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | Brian Fargo, whose work I generally like, is apparently working on a new DRM system called "Robot Cache" that will -- purportedly -- (a) actually work, (b) solve the resale problem, (c) be open source and (d) use Blockchain™ |
| 20:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | I don't believe any of these claims except (d) and maaaaaaybe (c) |
| 20:37 | <&jeroud> | I don't believe anything useful will come out of blockchain until the hype cycle ends. |
| 20:37 | <&jeroud> | Also, has anyone solved the power problem yet? |
| 20:38 | <&jeroud> | I seem to recall blockchain being predicated on "he who burns the most fossils gets to control the transactions". |
| 20:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | jeroud: "blockchain", generically, is just "a merkle tree coupled with a consensus mechanism for determining which version of the tree is canonical" |
| 20:41 | <&ToxicFrog> | Bitcoin specifically uses the proof-of-work system you describe, where that mechanism is "agreement of the majority of the transaction processing pool" and it's designed to get worse as you add more computing power. |
| 20:46 | <&jeroud> | Ah. |
| 20:46 | <&jeroud> | Thanks for the clarification. |
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| 20:51 | <&ToxicFrog> | (as McMartin points out, git is "industry-standard blockchain technology"; the consensus mechanism is "whatever tree the corporate git server/project maintainer/github repo says is the correct one". The knots that cryptocurrencies tie themselves in, AIUI, are related to trying to come up with a distributed consensus model, and also a complete lack of knowledge of economics or monetary |
| 20:51 | <&ToxicFrog> | theory.) |
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| 21:36 | | * abudhabi mutters at overeager email validators. |
| 21:36 | < Mahal> | Mm/ |
| 21:36 | < Mahal> | ? |
| 21:37 | <&McMartin> | "No plus signs in email addresses omg" |
| 21:37 | <@abudhabi> | According to it, .info is not a valid domain or something. |
| 21:37 | <&McMartin> | Oh wow, that's even more impressive |
| 21:37 | <&McMartin> | I must assume this code predates the sale of arbitrary TLDs. |
| 21:39 | < Mahal> | Hahaah |
| 21:39 | < Mahal> | I had that happen with our web filtering product awhile back |
| 21:39 | < Mahal> | it wouldn't let me whitelist a .kiwi domain |
| 21:40 | <&McMartin> | Is that a real TLD now? |
| 21:40 | < Mahal> | I am in fact in New Zealand |
| 21:40 | < Mahal> | Yes |
| 21:40 | <&McMartin> | Or just an intranet gag |
| 21:40 | < Mahal> | Has been for sometime |
| 21:40 | <&McMartin> | Nice |
| 21:41 | < Mahal> | 2014...? I think? |
| 21:42 | < Mahal> | November 2013. |
| 21:42 | < Mahal> | So yeah, practically 2014 :P |
| 21:42 | <&McMartin> | .... |
| 21:42 | | * McMartin pokes at things |
| 21:42 | | * McMartin finds what may be his new favorite picture on Wikipedia |
| 21:42 | <&McMartin> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_(people)#/media/File:Kiwi_holding_kiwi.jpg |
| 21:43 | < Mahal> | :D |
| 21:44 | <&McMartin> | Definitely my new favorite caption. |
| 21:44 | <&McMartin> | (I was suddenly curious as to the kiwi bird's conservation status, which turns out to be "it's complicated") |
| 21:45 | < Mahal> | Yeah |
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| 21:50 | < Degi> | https://www.shadertoy.com/view/MlscWX |
| 21:52 | <&McMartin> | I remember that one |
| 21:52 | <&McMartin> | It's very impressive but part of me is very sad that we're using a fragment shader to ray-trace geometry |
| 21:52 | <&McMartin> | Like, there's a whole extra unit for that! |
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| 22:24 | <@mac> | Good news: I have determined the cause of my periodic hard-locks is /not/ playing YouTube in Firefix. |
| 22:24 | <@mac> | Bad new: Because it happened while playing a game instead. |
| 22:24 | <@mac> | Time to burn Memtest86 to a USB, I think. |
| 22:26 | <@TheWatcher> | Blegh. :/ |
| 22:26 | <@TheWatcher> | Good luck |
| 22:29 | <@mac> | I bought this laptop ~ 1 year ago. A couple weeks ago I got a reminder that my warentee was about to expire. Not sure now if it actualy has. |
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