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| 01:49 | <&McMartin> | Ubuntu is probably the easiest mainline Linux to use for a starter |
| 01:50 | <&McMartin> | Fedora is aimed at power users and will do the job but it's also GNOME 3 which is bizarrely alien, and while Ubuntu is switching to GNOME 3 it's trying to bludgeon it into having things like an application launch bar. |
| 01:50 | <&McMartin> | After that, gnome-terminal and emacs (or gedit or Visual Studio Code or whatever) will be all she needs. |
| 01:52 | <&McMartin> | ... that also said |
| 01:52 | <&McMartin> | If the netbook is already running Windows, you can Python dev on that with Python and Notepad++ |
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| 01:54 | <&McMartin> | Linux Mint may be the smoothest launch and it's still one of the most popular distros but they've been deliberately ignoring a lot of modern libraries to keep the experience stable, which means if the goal is a general "familiarity with Linux" Mint is hard to leave |
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| 05:50 | <&McMartin> | https://twitter.com/rdegges/status/946342756426833921 |
| 05:53 | <&Reiver> | that's totally vaild in specific circumstances! |
| 05:54 | <&[R]> | Lies |
| 06:10 | <&McMartin> | It's funny, because the first two cases I can think of - BASIC arrays and Pascal strings - both have a seekrit zeroth element |
| 06:10 | <&Reiver> | I vaugely recall some compression (or was it search) algorathms start at 1 |
| 06:11 | <&Reiver> | Because they want to use the 0th bit for data tracking, and why set up a whole new variable when you can just borrow the array you already have |
| 06:11 | <&McMartin> | Right, that's like the Pascal string case, where the 0th character is the length of the string. |
| 06:12 | <&McMartin> | With BASIC, the 0th element is a perfectly cromulent element in all respects, it's just that the language lets you forget it exists |
| 06:12 | <&McMartin> | Because when you dimension arrays for it, you specify not the size, but the highest valid index |
| 06:12 | <&McMartin> | so DIM SUM(10) is actually an eleven-element array. |
| 06:13 | <@Alek> | mmm, dim sum. :P |
| 06:14 | <&McMartin> | I found my stash of juvenilia some years ago, and realized in a pang of lost opportunities that I had never in fact uttered a DIM SUM command. |
| 06:15 | <&McMartin> | Of course, half those programs were for BASIC dialects that only permitted two-character variable names anyway, not counting type warts. |
| 06:18 | <&McMartin> | Also, because I would have been, like, 11, any math sophisticated enough to require an array of sums would have been some program copied from my dad's Scientific American magazines. |
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| 07:13 | <@Alek> | here's for code from books and magazines! *raises toast* |
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| 07:26 | | * McMartin will drink to that |
| 07:26 | <&McMartin> | Sometimes heavily, in retrospect, upon realizing that the twenty-page program I could never get to work right as a kid was in fact fundamentally incomplete and published half-implemented. |
| 08:04 | <&Reiver> | lol |
| 08:05 | <@Alek> | they wanted to make you think for yourself on how to fix it. :P |
| 08:06 | <@Alek> | maybe they were hoping for a letter to the editor to fix their mistakes so THEY could run it. :P |
| 08:06 | <@Alek> | maybe it was an NSA test. :P |
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| 19:17 | <&[R]> | Wow... Edge chokes to death with 15 tabs on a 16 GB of RAM system |
| 19:17 | <&[R]> | I blame Windows' horrible swap performance |
| 19:19 | <&McMartin> | Is it at 100% RAM usage? |
| 19:21 | <~Vornicus> | also, while the netbook has windows on it already, it is a very large bear to use because it takes approximately three days to finish booting up |
| 19:23 | < ErikMesoy> | I had that problem once, I 'solved' it by always hibernating instead of turning off. |
| 19:25 | <&[R]> | 88% |
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| 19:37 | <~Vornicus> | yeah, this guy isn't terribly good at staying hibernated |
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