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| 06:55 | <&[R]> | Ughhh |
| 06:55 | <&[R]> | PHP's heredocs |
| 06:55 | <&[R]> | The terminator has to be on its own line, and can only be alone or have a semi-colon. |
| 06:56 | <&[R]> | Makes them a bit annoying to use to pass multi-line things (like SQL queries) to functions :/ |
| 06:57 | < Vorntastic> | I always do the here documents as separate from the functions |
| 06:57 | < Vorntastic> | So I'll make the document and then pass it |
| 06:58 | <&[R]> | Yeah, but then you have them in one-use variables |
| 06:58 | <&[R]> | It looks silly |
| 06:59 | <&[R]> | Also the terminator can't have indentation either |
| 06:59 | < Vorntastic> | Which is another reason I keep them fully independent |
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| 09:08 | < simon_> | I'm not sure if this is Perl-specific wording, but when an argument/parameter is 'honored', does that mean that it's mandatory? |
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| 09:11 | <&Reiver> | That would be a really odd way to phrase it |
| 09:12 | < simon_> | yeah. I think it's just outdated. to me it sounds like it's the only parameter that is in the public API. but that's not true, either. I think the docstring is simply outdated. |
| 09:12 | < simon_> | like "all other parameters are subject to change" |
| 09:13 | <&[R]> | I've never heard that terminology |
| 09:13 | < simon_> | I've changed the wording to being required. |
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| 09:33 | <@TheWatcher> | I've never heard that, either, and I've been working with Azathoth's Holy Language for nearly 20 years now |
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| 09:49 | <&Reiver> | ... If TW hasn't heard of it, I'm not sure I /want/ to hear of it |
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| 11:14 | <&ToxicFrog> | simon_: generally that means "will have an effect" and it's used in situations where you're talking about something that isn't obviously an input to the function |
| 11:14 | <&ToxicFrog> | Like "when formatting the number, the current locale settings related to numeric separators are honoured" |
| 11:15 | <&ToxicFrog> | Context would help. |
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| 11:58 | < simon_> | ToxicFrog, ah, okay, in that sense I understand the word. |
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| 18:35 | <&jerith> | Yay algorithms and data structures. |
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| 19:04 | <&McMartin> | Indeed, but does something bring this up in particular? |
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| 19:15 | <&[R]> | Ugh... Outlook 365 broke WebDAV calendar syncing |
| 19:15 | <&[R]> | Which is a /major/ hangup for our company |
| 19:15 | <&[R]> | We use it for contractor dispatching |
| 20:16 | < Mahal> | broke it how? |
| 20:17 | <&[R]> | It errors out, unable to connect to the server (despite the same machines being able to connect to it just fine) |
| 20:18 | <&[R]> | Also undoing all of the syncing worked (though one machine has sync errors despite it not having any calendars setup for syncing). But I am completely unable to reinitiate the syncing process. |
| 20:33 | < Mahal> | are we talking "migrated to Exchange Online, now Things Work Different", or what? |
| 20:33 | <&[R]> | No? |
| 20:33 | <&[R]> | They worked two weeks ago. Now they don't. |
| 20:33 | < Mahal> | so an update to the OUtlook client, specifically? |
| 20:33 | < Mahal> | or to EOL? |
| 20:33 | <&[R]> | I think so |
| 20:34 | <&[R]> | I don't think Office 365 got EOL'd |
| 20:34 | < Mahal> | EOL = exchange online |
| 20:34 | < Mahal> | sorry |
| 20:35 | <&[R]> | We don't have Exchange at all |
| 20:35 | <&[R]> | Hence us using WebDAV |
| 20:36 | < Mahal> | ... OK, so... where are the actual calendars? gmail or some other thing? |
| 20:36 | <&[R]> | In Outlook |
| 20:36 | <&[R]> | When then syncs to WebDAV, and then the other Outlook instances download those callendars |
| 20:37 | <&[R]> | They get stored in the pst files or whatever AIUI |
| 20:41 | <&[R]> | And I run the WebDAV server, one client (mine) is syncing fine. |
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| 21:46 | <@gnolam> | https://twitter.com/Tuplet/status/613218929838698496 |
| 21:46 | <@gnolam> | https://twitter.com/xxivips/status/938366852039888896 |
| 21:51 | <&McMartin> | checks out |
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| 23:15 | <&[R]> | What does everyone use for a calendar system? |
| 23:16 | <&[R]> | Looking to replace Outlook in that capacity |
| 23:16 | <@ErikMesoy> | Yahoo Mail |
| 23:19 | <@Tamber> | Random pieces of paper that I lose. |
| 23:20 | <&[R]> | We need something that's more reliable than Outlook. |
| 23:21 | <&[R]> | Maybe a network of webcams, all viewable from one page, each looking at a white-board calendar |
| 23:21 | <@Tamber> | :) |
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