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| 11:37 | < Jessikat`> | Send help I'm starting to grok allocators on an intuitive level |
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| 12:02 | | * ToxicFrog sends Jessikat a cat |
| 12:09 | < Jessikat> | I've also got the go ahead to fix a bunch of stuff in the engine >:) |
| 12:12 | <@TheWatcher> | \o/ |
| 12:13 | < Jessikat> | And, importantly, delete the last remaining usage of auto_ptr from the company |
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| 13:40 | | * TheWatcher hairpulls at this page |
| 13:41 | <@TheWatcher> | Something keeps adding "?<unixtimestamp>" to the end of images on this page. But only when I'm /not/ looking at it in the dev tools |
| 13:49 | <@TheWatcher> | Ugh, its foundation doing it, wtf |
| 13:49 | <@TheWatcher> | +' |
| 14:21 | <@TheWatcher> | There, dealt with |
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| 14:32 | < Jessikat`> | Murder it |
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| 15:05 | <&[R]> | Foundation? |
| 15:08 | < Jessikat`> | Hard to make up |
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| 15:11 | < Vorntastic> | Foundation: CSS and js framework |
| 15:12 | <&[R]> | Ah |
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| 15:27 | <@TheWatcher> | Yeah. It's excellent, but does have a few... idiosyncracies occasionally. |
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| 16:52 | < Jessikat> | It's so much fun to get a code review back with someone correctly using a new type you added without having asked you first |
| 16:52 | < Jessikat> | Documentation victory! |
| 16:53 | < Jessikat> | (This being a lightweight synchronous broadcast callback type that you can register functions with) |
| 16:53 | < Jessikat> | (commonly known as a signal in some frameworks) |
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| 18:06 | < simon_> | Jessikat, reminds me of when my high school teacher had printed a Wikipedia article for class that I'd written. :-D |
| 18:06 | < simon_> | Jessikat, without knowing. |
| 18:14 | < Jessikat> | Hm? :) hehe |
| 18:14 | < Jessikat> | Nice |
| 18:33 | <&jeroud> | \o/ |
| 18:34 | <&jeroud> | I had a lovely experience the other day watching talk videos from the recent conference I spoke at. |
| 18:36 | <&jeroud> | Someone who really knows his shit (and learned the hard way) mentioned in his talk that if anyone wants to know how to do Python stuff in docker *right*, go watch the video of my colleague's talk from the previous day. |
| 18:37 | <&jeroud> | Turns out that putting effort into doing stuff well, documenting it, and publishing it on the interwebs is really useful for other people who need similar things. |
| 18:42 | < Jessikat> | :D |
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| 19:14 | <&McMartin> | Jessikat: Woo, signals |
| 19:14 | | * McMartin needs to get to optimizing the Hell out of his asynchronous write-once value repository with callbacks attached, known variously as a "completable future" or a "task completion source". |
| 19:15 | <&McMartin> | It turns out that monomorphizing it is over half the text section of some of our executables x_X |
| 19:16 | < Jessikat> | monomorphizing? |
| 19:17 | <&jeroud> | "specialising"? |
| 19:17 | <&McMartin> | Repeatedly expanding its template arguments |
| 19:17 | <&jeroud> | McMartin: Are those different from "promises"? |
| 19:18 | <&McMartin> | jeroud: That depends on what language you're working in! |
| 19:18 | <&McMartin> | If it is Javascript, then no |
| 19:18 | <&McMartin> | The thing JavaScript calls "promises" does not match the other things called that. |
| 19:18 | <&McMartin> | I no longer remember the taxonomy, just that there are like five conflicting definitions. |
| 19:19 | <&jeroud> | Ah. |
| 19:21 | <&jeroud> | The thing I'm used to hearing described as a promise is what Twisted calls a Deferred. |
| 19:21 | <&McMartin> | And which I first learned simly as a "future". |
| 19:22 | <&McMartin> | But yes, my little C++ class is based quite closely on JS promises and C# TaskCompletionSources. |
| 19:23 | <&McMartin> | But I used templates to make them typecheck and that turns out to be a significant cost for small but highly asynchronous-I/O-based applications. |
| 19:23 | < Jessikat> | McMartin: recursively defining? |
| 19:24 | <&McMartin> | I suspect the issue is breadth, not depth, given the rest of the architecture; it's interfacing with a structure-based RPC mechanism that kind of assumed you were using a language with reflection. The effect might be close to recursion though. |
| 19:24 | <&McMartin> | But it also means I might be able to get away with making it polymorphic and making the templated portion consist of nothing but compile-time checks. |
| 19:25 | <&jeroud> | I have been fighting Rust again since yesterday afternoon. |
| 19:28 | <&jeroud> | I found a UI library thing that is actually usable for what I want to do (except maybe dynamic font scaling, I haven't checked that yet) but I'm still spending most of my time running around adding explicit dependencies on various transitively included crates so I can reference their types so I can put the inside of a loop in one function and the outside of the loop in another. |
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| 22:26 | <&McMartin> | From the Department Of Computer Language Religious Wars: https://i.redd.it/pjrpnjyynjtz.jpg |
| 22:30 | < Jessikat> | XD |
| 22:30 | < simon_> | haha |
| 22:48 | <@himi> | . . . wait, is "\t" /really/ == 0? |
| 22:48 | <@himi> | Jesus |
| 22:53 | <&[R]> | > " \n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t" == 0 |
| 22:53 | <&[R]> | true |
| 22:54 | <&[R]> | > " 5 " == 5 |
| 22:54 | <&[R]> | true |
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