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| 15:27 | <&jerith> | Yay, my talk went well. |
| 15:28 | <&jerith> | It was a bit intimidating to talk to an overfull room with people sitting on the floor and standing at the back. |
| 15:29 | <&jerith> | https://za.pycon.org/talks/43/ should have a video up at some point. |
| 15:29 | <&jerith> | Maybe in a couple of days. |
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| 19:44 | <@gnolam> | https://twitter.com/rabcyr_alt/status/915386643946885120 |
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| 21:56 | <&jeroud> | My talk video in preview mode: http://youtu.be/H6HCRpUtawo |
| 21:57 | <&jeroud> | I'm pretty sure that URL won't change when we push the publish button. |
| 21:58 | <&jeroud> | The title, since it's not actually visible unless you click one of my links, is "Surviving a Legacy Codebase". |
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| 22:54 | <&McMartin> | jeroud: Hey, that old definition of legacy code was recently relevant! |
| 22:54 | <&McMartin> | Because ARM32 just self-destructed last month in the iOS ecosystem~ |
| 22:56 | <&McMartin> | Less of an issue in this era of high-level compiled languages like C, but not as thoroughly as one might always hope |
| 22:56 | <&jerith> | McMartin: But almost all modern code (except the small asm bits that people still write for various reasons) can generally be recompiled (maybe with some minor changes) for new systems. |
| 22:57 | <&McMartin> | Yeah |
| 22:57 | <&McMartin> | The pain point for this turned out to be "that assumes that someone still has the code and a compiler" |
| 22:57 | <&jerith> | The closest analogue I can think of "yeah, we ripped out that deprecated API. Sucks to be you." |
| 22:58 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, here it's more "Apple puts self-destruct codes on all apps that are reset when the developers pay dues" |
| 22:58 | <&McMartin> | "Oh, you wanted to keep using it? You're not part of this transaction." |
| 22:59 | <&McMartin> | The AArch64 transition was pretty smooth for us. |
| 23:05 | | * McMartin immediately steals the term "investigative tests". |
| 23:05 | <&McMartin> | (By the definitions used here, iOS 11 itself counts as legacy code~) |
| 23:42 | <@himi> | Just having the code doesn't necessarily mean it's particularly usable |
| 23:42 | | * himi has an app that he uses for boat design that hasn't been updated in ten years and was written in Delphi |
| 23:51 | <&McMartin> | ISTR that Delphi is actually surprisingly common still. |
| 23:52 | < Mahal> | ... boat ... design?? |
| 23:53 | < Mahal> | (There's one piece of irreplaceable software at work, which we've managed to kludge by running some sort of virtual Dos experience inside a win2k virtual machine in it's own little DMZ) |
| 23:53 | < Mahal> | (It is apparently indispensable in the ongoing maintenance of $significant_structure) |
| 23:53 | | * McMartin is aware of two possible technologies for "I need Actually DOS plz, or close enough" |
| 23:54 | | * McMartin checks TIOBE's index. Delphi's actually #11! |
| 23:54 | <&McMartin> | It's now beating Perl. |
| 23:54 | < Mahal> | nb: we know about DOSBOX and similar - they don't work. |
| 23:54 | <&McMartin> | That does surprise me. |
| 23:54 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, DOSBOX isn't intended to work |
| 23:55 | <&McMartin> | FreeDOS and Windows 9x were the two technologies I had in mind. |
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| --- Log closed Sat Oct 07 00:00:29 2017 |