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| 02:16 | <&McMartin> | Coding protip of the day: while . and , look very similar in a small font, only one of them actually does any separation of list items. |
| 02:17 | < Mahal> | Indeed. |
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| 03:10 | | * mac replaces one of McMartin's semi-colons with a Greek question mark |
| 03:24 | <&Derakon> | I just spent ~20 minutes trying to figure out why my test kept failing, only to discover it was because my code was working perfectly well and telling me that my test had set up its preconditions incorrectly. |
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| 16:29 | < Jessikat> | Oh god |
| 16:29 | < Jessikat> | Herb Sutter's talk at cppcon this year is basically a proof of Greespun's tenth rule |
| 16:29 | < Jessikat> | Greenspun* |
| 16:30 | < Jessikat> | aaaargh and he knows it |
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| 18:39 | <&jeroud> | Jessikat: I found myself thinking of you over the weekend. |
| 18:40 | <&jeroud> | Between bouts of playing Factorio, I was reading the Factorio blog posts about all the optimisations they've been doing in their C++ code. |
| 19:17 | <~Vornicus> | I love FFF |
| 19:20 | <&jeroud> | I was a bit sad yesterday when I incremented the number in the URL and got a 404. |
| 19:22 | <&jeroud> | I picked up Factorio again for the first time in ages a couple of weeks ago, and started reading through FFFs from pre-0.15 at the same time. |
| 19:22 | <~Vornicus> | Finally got to this past Friday's? |
| 19:23 | <&jeroud> | Yeah. |
| 19:24 | <&jeroud> | I *do* have one major issue with FFF, though. |
| 19:24 | <&jeroud> | It always leaves me craving the next unreleased version. |
| 19:25 | <&McMartin> | Oh right, Greenspun's Tenth Law |
| 19:25 | <&jeroud> | Although I can't remember offhand the specific new feature I really wanted already. |
| 19:25 | <&McMartin> | I have to admit, I'm less impressed by it than I should be, despite its truth. |
| 19:25 | <&McMartin> | Two aspects of it rub me the wrong way |
| 19:26 | <&McMartin> | (1) It's the 21st century. Having a common library that represents core data structures and operations upon them doesn't mean you're a common Lisp clone |
| 19:27 | <&McMartin> | (2) Common Lisp is pretty pants these days and has many perfectly cromulent alternatives, many of which are even designed intentionally to be embedded in C programs. If you want to not have shitty internal systems, the lesson isn't "Have used CL in the first place" and hasn't been for some time |
| 19:27 | <&McMartin> | (2.1) Couldn't you at least have a cheap implementation of Scheme? Those are actually good~ |
| 19:29 | <&McMartin> | (re: 2, Idiomatic CL code basically doesn't do *any* of the things I think of as Lispy because of the way I learned on Scheme. It felt like Python-in-a-straightjacket.) |
| 19:29 | <&jeroud> | McMartin: These days, I read it as "Unless you're deliberate about it, [...]" |
| 19:29 | <&McMartin> | (The traditional way out of that is to use the Hell out of macros, but the whole point of the Tenth Law is to rail against ad-hoc internal domain-specific languages) |
| 19:58 | < Jessikat> | Mostly I just mean that I want C++ to have Lisp macros |
| 20:00 | < Jessikat> | Actually I think I just want both c++ and Lisp to be a completely different language |
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| --- Log closed Tue Oct 03 00:00:23 2017 |