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| 04:23 | <@Azash> | Derakon: Who shall debug the debugmen? |
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| 05:49 | <&[R]> | <bambanx> dp you know a desktop app for use reddit , quora , slack and irc in the same client |
| 05:49 | <&[R]> | <Stryyker> Sounds like a web browser |
| 05:49 | <&[R]> | <bambanx> am looking for desktop app |
| 05:49 | <&[R]> | <Stryyker> Web browsers are desktop applications. |
| 05:50 | <&[R]> | Gotta love insane requirements |
| 05:50 | <@Azash> | ... Who needs a desktop app for Quora? |
| 05:51 | <&[R]> | Who even /uses/ Quora? |
| 05:51 | <&[R]> | Last time I even looked at it it was ExpertSexChange all over again (with their fucking of Google results) |
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| 11:46 | <&ToxicFrog> | Approaching it from the other direction, you can easily do slack and IRC in the same client, but I have no idea what an IRC-based UI to Reddit would even look like |
| 11:50 | <@TheWatcher> | (Yeah, I have slack and IRC in the same client right now; just need to enable the IRC proxy on slack and you're away. You can do it with discord too, sorta) |
| 11:50 | <@TheWatcher> | but reddit... |
| 11:50 | <@TheWatcher> | Maybe I'm using reddit wrong? >.> |
| 11:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | I'm doing it with discord right now! |
| 11:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | I switched to using weeslack for slack, though, since the slack IRC gateway is more than a little half-assed. |
| 12:00 | <&jerith> | The slack IRC gateway is pretty dismal. |
| 12:01 | <&jerith> | I use it because I have my work IRC/IM client set up the way I like to work, but I also keep the slack app open next to it. |
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| 12:26 | | * Vornicus finds himself poking at mediawiki templates. |
| 12:29 | <@TheWatcher> | <3 MW templates. They make my life so much easier. |
| 12:29 | <~Vornicus> | oh good an expert *GLOM* |
| 12:31 | <&ToxicFrog> | jerith: I filed an awful lot of bug reports against and it and while all of them were acked, most of them were never actually addressed. Eventually I gave up. |
| 12:31 | <&ToxicFrog> | If weechat is your preferred IRC client, weeslack is so much nicer. |
| 12:31 | | * Vornicus actually doesn't really have any questions yet though |
| 12:32 | <@TheWatcher> | I'm no expert; I just use (and abuse) them a lot. |
| 12:33 | <&jerith> | ToxicFrog: Likewise, except I think I gave up sooner. |
| 12:33 | <&jerith> | My work IRC client is Adium, because I occasionally need XMPP as well. |
| 12:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | Aah |
| 12:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | I do my XMPP via bitlbee |
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| 15:11 | < Jessikat> | ...i have managed to overload myself by looking into four reflection systems simultaneously |
| 15:11 | < Jessikat> | I should take things easier |
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| 16:49 | <&ToxicFrog> | possibly, yes |
| 16:49 | | * ToxicFrog hugs |
| 16:50 | <&ToxicFrog> | I have taken the afternoon off and am finally getting around to implementing some much-needed improvements to doomrl-server |
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| 17:25 | < Jessikat> | :D |
| 17:26 | < Jessikat> | I just gave up on designing and committed some changes once been sitting on for a while |
| 17:28 | <&jerith> | I hate rpython. |
| 17:28 | <&jerith> | I find it incredibly useful (in the right context), but I hate it. |
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| 17:52 | < ber> | THE NEWEST AND HOTTEST IRC IN ALL OF TORLAND |
| 17:52 | < ber> | (chatzone) chatztquzc26jlaw.onion/6667 |
| 17:52 | < ber> | Alek ricer Orthia TheWatcher macdjord|Otakuthon sshine bowlich himi Namegduf Kindamoody|afk Jessikat iospace Syloq Kizor ToxicFrog ErikMesoy Azash abudhabi Mahal jeroud Attilla Vornicus Reiver starkruzr jerith gnolam [R] Turaiel[Offline] VirusJTG PinkFreud McMartin ion Tamber JustBob h |
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| 17:53 | <&VirusJTG> | I don't come to IRC to be the newest and hottest, I come here for the community. I specificly like THIS community and I wish the bots would cralw past the event horizon of some black hole and die (in that order) |
| 17:54 | | * VirusJTG goes back to wait for a call from microsoft to fix an Azure issue |
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| 18:26 | < wer> | GET OFF THIS IRC WITH THESE LOSERS..CHECK OUT |
| 18:26 | < wer> | (chatzone) chatztquzc26jlaw.onion/6667 |
| 18:26 | < wer> | Alek ricer Orthia TheWatcher macdjord|Otakuthon sshine bowlich himi Namegduf Kindamoody|afk Jessikat iospace Syloq Kizor ToxicFrog ErikMesoy Azash abudhabi Mahal jeroud Attilla Vornicus Reiver starkruzr jerith gnolam [R] Turaiel[Offline] VirusJTG PinkFreud McMartin ion Tamber JustBob h |
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| 18:26 | <@Tamber> | oh for fuck's sake. |
| 18:26 | <@iospace> | paging an oper |
| 18:27 | <@Tamber> | The bot did a lovely job of paging all the people with big hammers, I think |
| 18:31 | <&VirusJTG> | yeah, it pinked the big hammer ops for us |
| 18:31 | <&VirusJTG> | now, we just wait |
| 18:32 | <@Tamber> | I do somewhat wonder how much of a return on their -- admittedly brief -- time investment they get. |
| 18:32 | <&VirusJTG> | I always assumed it was like the smap industry for email, even a one percent return is enough becuase the over head is so low |
| 18:32 | <&VirusJTG> | spam* |
| 18:32 | <@Tamber> | Yeah, but at least there there's some visible way they're making money, y'know? |
| 18:33 | <&VirusJTG> | its a .onion, they are selling things I don't want to know about |
| 18:33 | <&VirusJTG> | my outlook on humanity is already dark enough |
| 18:33 | <&jerith> | It could be someone trying to get the internet pissed off at the place they're "advertising". |
| 18:33 | <@Tamber> | They're trying to sell you A Thing™. Kinda hard to make money out of trying to drive people onto an irc server, unless you're hoping that people will hop on to join your #warez and #pr0nz n... ah, that's a point. |
| 18:33 | <&VirusJTG> | thats also a possibility |
| 18:34 | <&jerith> | That happened to a different network I was on once. |
| 18:34 | <&jerith> | Well, a particular channel on that network. |
| 18:35 | <&jerith> | Some lamer got banned and then spammed half the internet with "join #thatchannel on irc.thatnetwork". |
| 18:36 | <@Tamber> | Hoping for 'counterspam'? |
| 18:37 | <&jerith> | A bunch of pissed off people showed up to tell us to stop. |
| 18:37 | <@Tamber> | oof. |
| 18:37 | <&VirusJTG> | thats far too much work |
| 18:38 | <@Tamber> | You underestimate pissed-off lamers. |
| 18:38 | <&jerith> | Fortunately the lamer just used the one IP, so we handed out zline instructions. |
| 18:38 | <&VirusJTG> | I"m on facebook, no I don't. I'm saying thsts far too much for for ME |
| 18:38 | <@Tamber> | (Also, they're probably just buying time on someone else's botnet to do it~) |
| 18:38 | <@Tamber> | ahh |
| 18:38 | <&McMartin> | They literally have nothing better to do with their time or money |
| 18:39 | <&VirusJTG> | they can give me the money, I'll buy a lego death star with it and make myself and my wife happy for many hours |
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| 18:39 | <&VirusJTG> | wb jessikat |
| 18:40 | <&McMartin> | VirusJTG: Right, but, monsters that they are, your happiness means *nothing* to them |
| 18:40 | <@Tamber> | hee |
| 18:40 | <&jerith> | McMartin: Not true. |
| 18:40 | <&VirusJTG> | hehehehehe |
| 18:40 | <&jerith> | Your happiness makes them angry. |
| 18:40 | <@Tamber> | "If I'm not happy, why should you be?" :C |
| 18:41 | <&VirusJTG> | "CAn't we all just get along" No, this is Earth |
| 18:41 | <@Tamber> | About the only way we'll even get close to that, is if there's some sort of looming alien invasion. And even then... |
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| 18:42 | <&VirusJTG> | I'm convenced a multi system hyper advances civilization is out there, and avoiding us like the PLAGUE |
| 18:42 | <@Tamber> | Can you blame them? |
| 18:42 | <&jerith> | The real danger isn't the lamers, it's the well-meaning incompetents. |
| 18:43 | <@Tamber> | Indeed; the road to hell, as they say, is paved with good intentions. |
| 18:44 | <&VirusJTG> | No Tamber, I don't blame them. |
| 18:51 | <&VirusJTG> | incompetence and complacency are the two most dangerous words in the English language when it comes to electronic or computerized systems. |
| 18:52 | <@Tamber> | Complacency is a big bad one in my line of work, too. Sure, those things stay up 99% of the time; but you're still trusting your life to a length of steel-wire-wrapped rubber and some £0.25 plastic&rubber rings. |
| 18:53 | <@Tamber> | And when they do go, a tonne of metal tends to come down quite quickly. |
| 18:54 | <@Tamber> | But it's usually over fairly quickly; unlike complacency & incompetence assisted with a computer. |
| 19:03 | <&VirusJTG> | A computer is less likely to kill you when it crashes how ever |
| 19:13 | <@Tamber> | Only slightly. |
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| 21:11 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hmm. |
| 21:11 | <&ToxicFrog> | Problem: I want to display help text in mid-ttyrec. |
| 21:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | However, it is quite likely that the screen is already in alternate display mode. |
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| 21:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hmm. Maybe the answer is to turn off alternate display mode, write the help text to stdout, wait for any input, then return to alternate display mode. |
| 21:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | Ok, yeah, that seems to work acceptably. |
| 22:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | Argh. |
| 22:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | It would be really nice if os.symlink had an operating mode analogous to `ln -sf` |
| 22:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | It's tempting to just subprocess.call() `ln` |
| 22:15 | <&[R]> | You want to update an existing symlink? |
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| 23:35 | <&McMartin> | https://twitter.com/hackerfantastic/status/892693308845305856 |
| 23:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | [R]: yeah. |
| 23:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | I ended up just doing it in shell, since this isn't something that needs to be part of the server itself, it's a migration script. |
| 23:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | And now the process of writing the documentation has gotten sufficiently unpleasant that I think I need to make some additional changes to the server to make the documentation less awful. |
| 23:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | (primarily, giving it a config file in /etc rather than passing everything in the command line, so it doesn't need a wrapper script to be launched via in.telnetd) |
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