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| 11:06 | <@himi-cat> | Hey, I asked this a couple of days ago but got no response, so I'll ask again |
| 11:07 | <@himi-cat> | Does anyone have any comment about Julia? |
| 11:07 | <@himi-cat> | This is in the context of using it as an alternative to Python for relatively low complexity and low performance requirement numerical code |
| 13:25 | <&ToxicFrog> | Never used it, sorry |
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| 13:52 | < Jessikat> | I've not heard of it |
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| 18:37 | | * ToxicFrog pokes forth with a stick |
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| 18:37 | < ToxicFrog> | Why does the : precede the name? |
| 18:37 | < ToxicFrog> | It seems like it would be more consistent if it came after, and also read more naturally |
| 18:38 | <@Tamber> | a dim memory says that's because that's the symbol for "I want you to compile this thing, and call it <name>" |
| 18:39 | < ToxicFrog> | Right |
| 18:39 | < ToxicFrog> | But forth uses postfix in general |
| 18:39 | < ToxicFrog> | Like, the ps equivalent is `<name> <code> def` |
| 18:40 | < ToxicFrog> | Where `def` pops both name and code and records them in the dictionary. |
| 18:40 | < ToxicFrog> | Forth uses `: <name> <code> ;` |
| 18:40 | < ToxicFrog> | And it seems like `<name> : <code> ;` would both look more natural to human eyes and be easier to implement (`;` pops tokens until it reaches `:`, then pops one more token for the name and compiles) |
| 18:42 | <@Tamber> | Ah, right, you're well off into the realm of -ENOKNOW for me, then. |
| 18:47 | < ToxicFrog> | Ok, I just read a bit that explains it. It's...weird. |
| 18:47 | <@Tamber> | "Forth" |
| 18:48 | < ToxicFrog> | Basically, forth "words" include both "normal" words (e.g. functions executed at runtime or compile time) and "parsing words", which change the state of the parser and read their input from the buffer rather than from the stack |
| 18:49 | <@Tamber> | Seems reasonable enough |
| 18:49 | < ToxicFrog> | But this means that normal words are postfix and parsing words are prefix |
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| 18:50 | <@Tamber> | *nods* |
| 18:51 | < ToxicFrog> | So e.g. to add two numbers you write `1 2 +`, but to get the integer codepoint associated with a literal character you write `char a`, because `char` is a parsing word that pulls its argument from the input buffer |
| 18:53 | < ToxicFrog> | This displeases me |
| --- Log closed Tue May 16 18:57:23 2017 |
| --- Log opened Tue May 16 18:57:32 2017 |
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| 19:29 | <&[R]> | <Yossarian> [R], et al, are there any good scheme interpreters? |
| 19:30 | <&McMartin> | Every serious schemer I know uses Racket |
| 19:30 | <&McMartin> | That is, granted, a sample size of two |
| 19:30 | <&[R]> | Thanks |
| 19:31 | <&McMartin> | I did my own experiments with Gambit, which has a nice and very fast compiler and interops very well with C but doesn't have most of the extensions that make the language usable in the large or even the medium |
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| 22:12 | <&McMartin> | ...... |
| 22:12 | <&McMartin> | From elsenet |
| 22:12 | <&McMartin> | "How did the people behind this latest hack escape? |
| 22:12 | <&McMartin> | "They ransomware." |
| 22:16 | <~Vornicus> | :( |
| 22:59 | < Jessikat> | ! |
| 22:59 | < Jessikat> | ? |
| 22:59 | < Jessikat> | D: |
| 22:59 | < Jessikat> | >:) |
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| 23:23 | <&McMartin> | :D |
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