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| 00:55 | <@Alek> | ... |
| 00:55 | <@Alek> | I'll have to keep that in mind, I haven't taken out my PSX in years. |
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| 01:07 | <~Vornicus> | psx emulation is basically perfect nowadays. |
| 01:10 | <@Alek> | I'll keep that in mind, but I do want to just have a console and tv handy for playing in bed. >_> |
| 01:10 | <@Alek> | not to mention the NewGame+ saves for multiple games I have on my memory cards. :P |
| 01:11 | <~Vornicus> | heh |
| 01:12 | <@Alek> | I also have my genesis. now this I'd be happy to replace with a pi with a full library of assorted consoles. :P |
| 01:14 | <@Alek> | oh. another thing. last I checked, which was admittedly many years back, some PS1 games were VERY hard to find images of for emulation purposes. |
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| 01:32 | <&McMartin> | Heh |
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| 03:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | I'm kind of surprised you can't just torrent PSX goodsets these days |
| 03:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | Although if it's games you already have you can just dump them with a normal CD-ROM drive |
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| 06:02 | | * McMartin publishes prebuilt versions of some of his DOS projects. https://github.com/michaelcmartin/bumbershoot/tree/master/dos/prebuilt |
| 06:03 | <&McMartin> | (litesout is the old puzzle, clover's a graphics demo, and imfplay is a music player for the Commander Keen 4 soundtrack) |
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| 13:17 | <@Alek> | TF, I mostly was trying to find Arc the Lad collection and Vagrant Story, at the time, iirc. |
| 13:18 | <@Alek> | I have recently lost ALL my rom collection though. I'll have to rebuild from scratch when I get around to it. :P |
| 13:25 | < Kizor> | I think I have both of those. |
| 13:26 | < Kizor> | Lemme know if you can't get your hands on them elsewhere. |
| 13:30 | <@Alek> | not currently looking, but thanks for the offer. |
| 13:32 | < Kizor> | np |
| 13:33 | < Kizor> | I may have to dig out the program to reconvert them from PAL to NTSC, but hey, it's a workout |
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| 15:48 | <@celticminstrel> | ... |
| 15:48 | <@celticminstrel> | So did any of my three lines get through before disconnect? |
| 15:48 | <@Tamber> | Nope. |
| 15:49 | <@celticminstrel> | Not surprised. |
| 15:49 | <@celticminstrel> | [Apr 06@10:45:01am] celticminstrel: ...music player for CK4 soundtrack? :O |
| 15:49 | <@celticminstrel> | [Apr 06@10:45:09am] celticminstrel: What's special about this? |
| 15:49 | <@celticminstrel> | [Apr 06@10:45:27am] celticminstrel: I suppose it would work on CK5 and CK6 too? |
| 16:35 | <@Tamber> | http://windowsitpro.com/development/microsoft-visual-studio-2017-gains-cobol-sup port-micro-focus ... |
| 16:36 | <@Tamber> | Cobol.NET, I guess~ |
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| 18:36 | <@abudhabi> | I didn't know they published Crusader Kings 3 yet, nevermind 4! |
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| 19:12 | <&McMartin> | celticminstrel: I *think* so. There are three classes of IMF files that don't self-describe their differences |
| 19:12 | <&McMartin> | So Wolf2D will play Too Fast |
| 19:14 | <&McMartin> | Right. Wolf2D will, Blake Stone, Major Stryker, Operation Body Count will all play too fast |
| 19:14 | <&McMartin> | Er, too slow |
| 19:14 | <&McMartin> | Duke Nukem II will play too fast |
| 19:14 | <&McMartin> | Bio Menace, CK4-6, Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure, and Monster Bash would all work. |
| 19:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | Alek: those are definitely available online, and I know this because I pirated them as an easier alternative to digging up a USB CD drive so I could rip my hardcopies |
| 19:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | (and Vagrant Story owns) |
| 19:18 | < RchrdB> | Dang, TF. I view a USB CD drive as an important piece of equipment to have at hand at all times. How else am I going to convert my store-bought pre-burned circular FLAC files back into FLAC format? |
| 19:19 | < Kizor> | I have a DVD drive, you yuppies. |
| 19:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | RchrdB: I buy my music online these days sooooooo |
| 19:20 | < Kizor> | Is this the wrong channel for a song? |
| 19:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | At this point we only have two machines with optical drives, but one is in a server closet and there's no room to open the tray and the other runs windows and is rarely used |
| 19:22 | <@celticminstrel> | I can't remember if I got Cosmo from GoG yet... |
| 19:22 | <@celticminstrel> | Given that I never beat it, I guess it's unlikely. |
| 19:22 | <@celticminstrel> | But I should check... |
| 19:25 | < Kizor> | Oh well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9887joVqT7c |
| 19:26 | <&McMartin> | celticminstrel: You should check to see if you got it in the 3DRealms standalone pack |
| 19:26 | <@celticminstrel> | Huh? |
| 19:29 | <&McMartin> | 3DRealmsONe moment |
| 19:29 | <&McMartin> | OK. Cosmo's is not one of the ones they publish for free. |
| 19:29 | < RchrdB> | ToxicFrog, yeah but I like FLACs and not every online music shop is as nice as bandcamp. |
| 19:29 | < RchrdB> | physical meatspace audio CDs are more compatible with the way I go about impulse-buying |
| 19:31 | <@celticminstrel> | Doesn't look like I have it on GoG, anyway. |
| 19:46 | <&[R]> | Not seeing it on their FTP either |
| 19:49 | < Kizor> | Could you link to that? |
| 19:50 | <&[R]> | ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/ |
| 19:51 | <&McMartin> | [R]: the main site has it *there* |
| 19:51 | <&McMartin> | But it has it there for five dollars |
| 19:51 | < Kizor> | Thanks. |
| 19:53 | <&[R]> | Some of that actually used to be on the FTP :/ |
| 19:58 | < Kizor> | Oh crap, they have moslo under patches |
| 19:58 | < Kizor> | Yoink! |
| 19:59 | <&[R]> | I have some of the stuff that costs money |
| 19:59 | <&[R]> | Looks like I didn't grab cosmo as I did actually beat that as a kid |
| 19:59 | < Kizor> | It's for slowing down DOS programs, and I have the sinking feeling I'm going to use that thing with DOSBox. |
| 20:00 | < RchrdB> | Don't quote me on this but I thought DOSBox had that as a built-in feature now? |
| 20:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | DOSBox actually has a control to slow down the emulated system, though |
| 20:00 | <&[R]> | DOSBox has features for that anyways |
| 20:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | (or speed it up) |
| 20:00 | < Kizor> | It has |
| 20:00 | < RchrdB> | in fact I think last time I looked, DOSbox runs at an emulated 20MHz by default? |
| 20:00 | < Kizor> | But I have trouble calibrating the thing with some games |
| 20:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | mo'slo was necessary back in the ways when you wanted to play Wing Commander on a Pentium |
| 20:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | Since otherwise a typical mission went: |
| 20:01 | < RchrdB> | or maybe that's just how the last couple of DOSbox-using games I played had it configured |
| 20:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | - click briefing room door |
| 20:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | - glimpse of briefing room |
| 20:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | - glimpse of launch tube |
| 20:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | - glimpse of your fighter slamming into an asteroid and exploding |
| 20:02 | <&ToxicFrog> | - COMPANY, PRESENT ARMS |
| 20:02 | <&ToxicFrog> | - main menu |
| 20:02 | < RchrdB> | Did Wing Commander not have sound? |
| 20:02 | <&ToxicFrog> | It did. |
| 20:03 | < RchrdB> | I thought syncing audio playback with the soundcard tended to cause games to get real-time timing actually right. |
| 20:03 | <&ToxicFrog> | But at that speed it sounds more like an orchestra falling down the stairs while someone operates a chainsaw in the background |
| 20:03 | < Kizor> | Yeah, it's a feature for DOSBox, I just have trouble sometimes getting that feature set at a good speed. |
| 20:03 | <&ToxicFrog> | ...not in my experience it didn't |
| 20:05 | < Kizor> | (That shareware version of Cosmo's Cosmic Adventures is in ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/share/ . Speaking as someone who's played it in the last few years, just the shareware version will last you for a while.) |
| 20:08 | <@celticminstrel> | I have it already. |
| 20:08 | <@celticminstrel> | I remember beating it many years ago. |
| 20:08 | <@celticminstrel> | Though I suppose it wouldn't hurt to replay it. |
| 20:09 | < Kizor> | ... |
| 20:09 | < Kizor> | I just realized. |
| 20:09 | < Kizor> | I'm downloading stuff off of 3D realms' actual FTP. |
| 20:10 | < Kizor> | I was that kid who would gaze longingly at Commander Keen 4's catalogue of other games. |
| 20:11 | < Kizor> | Grabbing things off of their FTP server is just enough like getting to actually send in that international money order to get me misty-eyed. |
| 20:11 | < Kizor> | I'll be dialing in to their BBS next. |
| 20:11 | < Kizor> | So, thanks. :-) |
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| 23:01 | | * Azash scratches his head |
| 23:02 | < Azash> | I forgot the term for when computers had to have initial programming done with some kind of physical switches and can't find it with google |
| 23:02 | <&McMartin> | The verb was "to toggle in the program" |
| 23:03 | <&McMartin> | And more generally, the process was bootstrapping |
| 23:03 | < Azash> | Thank you |
| 23:03 | < Azash> | Yeah I know bootstrapping, was more the interface itself |
| 23:04 | <@Tamber> | IPL-ing? |
| 23:04 | <@Tamber> | "Wearing your fingers out toggling bloody switches"? |
| 23:07 | <&McMartin> | http://www.technology.niagarac.on.ca/people/mcsele/pdp8.htm |
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| 23:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | One of my dad's claims to fame -- although this wasn't on the PDP, it was on some CDC Cyber model IIRC -- was figuring out bootstrap code that would display a short message on every connected terminal, with no need for an external program to load. |
| 23:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | by "short", of course, I mean "exactly four letters". |
| 23:29 | <&McMartin> | Fortunately, most of the messages you'd want everyone around you to hear are exactly 4 letters long~ |
| 23:29 | <&McMartin> | Azash: "The front panel" |
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