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| 03:27 | <@Reiv> | ... There's no particular way for me to get hold of Windows 10 for cheap nowadays, correct? |
| 03:28 | <&McMartin> | Cheapest option is probably some kind of OEM bundle with hardware. |
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| 03:33 | <@Reiv> | righto |
| 03:34 | <&McMartin> | It's possible there are not-cheapest-but-still-reasonable options, but I haven't investigated |
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| 06:57 | <&[R]> | Reiv: you can still get it for free (Google) |
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| 08:33 | <@abudhabi> | They're not giving it out for free on upgrade anymore, right? |
| 08:34 | <@abudhabi> | Way I got it was by buying a win7 license and upgrading. |
| 08:35 | <&[R]> | They are actually, but you have to do some hoops |
| 08:41 | <@abudhabi> | "No errors and 173 warnings found." Review/Commit/Cancel. |
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| 10:07 | <&[R]> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdPjbaLngE <-- TIL Switch is already jailbroken |
| 12:24 | <@abudhabi> | I am trapped in a meeting. I know nothing about the subject matter. |
| 12:24 | <&[R]> | :/ |
| 12:25 | <&[R]> | Hope no-one asks you for your thoughts? |
| 12:25 | <@abudhabi> | Too late. They're estimating time we'll need to use to do particular parts of the spec. |
| 12:26 | <@abudhabi> | I've delegated my estimate vote to a random non-developer, who probably knows more about this than I do. |
| 12:27 | <@abudhabi> | I'm only here because I asked about my missing permissions, and someone mentioned I should be in a meeting. |
| 12:28 | <@abudhabi> | Said missing permissions include a mailbox where I could receive meeting schedules. |
| 12:28 | <@abudhabi> | And work wiki access so I could read about stuff to do. |
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| 12:34 | <@abudhabi> | I wish I had my backpack with me, so I could estimate by 2d4. |
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| 13:07 | <@abudhabi> | The scrum master is sick today, my first actual paid day. I am somewhat annoyed, because I'm prevented from beginning on doing anything much. |
| 13:26 | <@abudhabi> | This place is starting to look like Learned Helplessness Inc. |
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| 20:15 | <@Reiv> | [R]: I had thought that ship had sailed. Tell me more, please? |
| 20:16 | <&[R]> | About the switch being jail-broken? |
| 20:16 | <&[R]> | Oh the thing I told you to Google which gives you a ton of results on how to do it. |
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| 20:51 | <@Reiv> | Rrrrright |
| 20:52 | <@Reiv> | Are any of them, you know, legit |
| 20:52 | <@Reiv> | I'm on a work account so have to be slightly careful what I search for and click on, you see. |
| 20:52 | <&McMartin> | Ars Technica has an article on it, one moment |
| 20:53 | <&McMartin> | https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/03/nintendo-switch-ships-with-unpatched-6-mo nth-old-webkit-vulnerabilities/ |
| 20:53 | <&McMartin> | This one doesn't fully jailbreak it but it's arbitrary code execution in userspace. |
| 20:53 | <@Reiv> | That is indeed interesting. |
| 20:54 | <@Reiv> | [R] was assuring me it is possible to buy a windows 10 liscence for free, legally. |
| 20:54 | <@gnolam> | Well, judging from what I've heard from Switch developers... I am not surprised in the least. |
| 20:54 | <@Reiv> | I need to be mildly cautious about searching for such things lest I hit our anti-piracy firewalls >_> |
| 20:54 | <&McMartin> | Er, right |
| 20:54 | <&McMartin> | I had two conversational wires crossed, sorry~ |
| 20:55 | <@Reiv> | np, that one was /also/ of interest |
| 20:57 | <&ToxicFrog> | If this is the same as it was a few months ago, it's "install win7, then start the win10 upgrade flow and tell it you need win10 for a11y reasons" |
| 20:58 | <@Reiv> | I thought they turned off the upgrade thing? |
| 21:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | It's still available for a11y upgrades, or was last time I looked at this. I forget how you activate it in that case, hence [R] pointing you at google. |
| 21:00 | <@Reiv> | aha |
| 21:00 | | * Reiv will need to go look up a) what a11y means, b) whether his new processor can run windows 7 at /all/ |
| 21:00 | <&McMartin> | "accessibility", I think. |
| 21:02 | < LadyOfLight> | It's someone who will back you up in a cyber duel |
| 21:03 | <&McMartin> | I thought those were 53c0ndz |
| 21:03 | < LadyOfLight> | 53c2, plox |
| 21:04 | <&McMartin> | k |
| 21:04 | <&McMartin> | Pardon me |
| 21:04 | <&McMartin> | /< |
| 21:07 | < Vornotron> | <3 |
| 21:10 | < Vornotron> | a11y is accessibility, i18n is internationalization, l10n is localization. |
| 21:11 | <&McMartin> | t2s i0s o6d a1d d2b |
| 21:15 | <@celticminstrel> | Those are the worst abbreviations ever imagined. |
| 21:15 | <@celticminstrel> | But "a11y" is definitely the worst of the bunch by a huge margin. |
| 21:15 | <&McMartin> | i18n started it |
| 21:15 | <@celticminstrel> | Because you look at "a11y" and see "ally". |
| 21:15 | <&McMartin> | And it's the only one I accept as legitimate |
| 21:16 | | * celticminstrel tries to decipher McMartin's message, gets as far as "this is" before being completely lost. |
| 21:19 | <&McMartin> | overused and dumb |
| 21:22 | <@celticminstrel> | [Mar 13@5:02:38pm] LadyOfLight: It's someone who will back you up in a cyber duel |
| 21:22 | <@celticminstrel> | Yup yup yup, this exactly. |
| 21:23 | < LadyOfLight> | y1s |
| 21:39 | <&[R]> | Reiv: through the accessibility system you can do an update |
| 21:40 | <&[R]> | Thought AIUI that's also got a time limit, but it's further in the future. |
| 22:38 | | * TheWatcher eyes this email from work |
| 22:39 | <@TheWatcher> | "Arglblargl this feature is terrible and looks bad, what have you broken?!?" |
| 22:39 | | * TheWatcher quotes the email where said person specifically requested that exact thing, in the exact way I implemented it |
| 22:42 | <@gnolam> | >_< |
| 22:42 | <@gnolam> | Been there, done that, unfortunately. |
| 22:43 | <@gnolam> | And that is yet another reason I prefer e-mail over phone calls and meetings. There is a written record. |
| 22:43 | <@TheWatcher> | Yup! |
| 22:44 | <@TheWatcher> | and why my work email archive has messages going back 17 years in it~ |
| 22:47 | <@TheWatcher> | This isn't the first time this guy has done this, either. He seems to demand features, refuses to listen to Zathras, and then a while later goes nuts claiming things are broken when it's the thing he's requested that changed the old behaviour. |
| 23:04 | <@Reiv> | Oh, I see. |
| 23:05 | <@Reiv> | ... small query |
| 23:05 | <@Reiv> | I have a legit Windows 7 Pro at home |
| 23:05 | <@Reiv> | Does that upgrade free? |
| 23:05 | <@Reiv> | Or does that upgrade to Win10 Home anyway, or or or |
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| 23:13 | <@celticminstrel> | It upgrades to Win10 Pro IIRC. |
| 23:14 | <@celticminstrel> | I've occasionally wondered if I should get that accessibility update, and then immediately revert... just so that I can then upgrade later for free if I decide I actually do want to. |
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