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| 13:00 | < catadroid> | FUCK YOU PYTHON |
| 13:00 | < catadroid> | ...TypeError: expected string or buffer |
| 13:00 | < catadroid> | Except that it's not where the exception says it is |
| 13:01 | < catadroid> | And it makes no sense |
| 13:03 | <~Vornicus> | paste the code |
| 13:20 | < catadroid> | Cannot :< |
| 13:21 | <~Vornicus> | :< |
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| 14:09 | <@Azash> | Perforce is a wonderful bit of VCS |
| 14:09 | <@Azash> | On some hackish amateur system you'd be able to develop even if the auth for the remote is down |
| 14:10 | <@Azash> | But P4 is built for professional users with integrity in mind, which means it locks everything |
| 14:10 | | * Azash got absolutely nothing done today |
| 14:11 | <@TheWatcher> | ENTERPRISE! |
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| 15:45 | <&jerith> | catadroid: That smells like an exception from a C extension module. |
| 15:46 | <&jerith> | If so, be glad you didn't just get a segfault. |
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| 16:20 | < catadroid> | Doesn't really help though |
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| 18:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | Azash: there's a git-p4 client! |
| 18:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | It's a bit slow but it has the advantage of not being a trash fire when the backend is down. |
| 18:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | That said, p4 local "locking" is done just by setting the local files readonly. Make them writeable with chmod and edit to your heart's content, reconcile the changes once the backend comes back up. |
| 18:11 | <&[R]> | P4? |
| 18:18 | <~Vornicus> | perforce, a vcs |
| 18:19 | <@Azash> | ToxicFrog: As far as I could tell it was done with LockFile in the Windows API but maybe I goofed |
| 18:20 | <@Azash> | (I have to use W7 for that project) |
| 18:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh. It's been a very long time since I used it on windows. |
| 18:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | That said, there's bound to be something you can use to forcibly unlock a file. |
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| 19:36 | <&McMartin> | attn various people but in particular TF and TW: http://nothings.org/gamedev/thief_rendering.html |
| 19:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oooo neat |
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| 19:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | "As with Photoshop layers, the temporal aspect was something under user control; you could move a brush forwards or backwards in time. Unfortunately, this was much harder to visualize (there was no "layers" window) and I'm not sure designers were really thrilled with this." |
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| 20:43 | <&McMartin> | This was linked in a videogame history-related context, as one would expect, but it's kind of surreal for me because I knew of "nothings" primarily through ifMUD |
| 20:44 | <&McMartin> | (Though he was one of I think two LG alumni that were active there) |
| 20:46 | <&McMartin> | (Also fun because that quotes Abash's memoirs, which are also fantastic) |
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| 20:49 | <~Vornicus> | I didn't realize the extent of CSG in 3d games. though I guess it makes sense |
| 20:50 | <&McMartin> | EXTRUDE |
| 20:51 | <~Vornicus> | yes. arg I need to write notes for vornball and *then* try to code, I keep chewing at edges and it's not working. |
| 20:55 | <&McMartin> | yaynotes |
| 20:56 | | * McMartin wants to write a Smoking Clover program. |
| 20:59 | | * Vornicus looks that up |
| 21:01 | <&McMartin> | It seems like a program that is simultaneously simple enough that I won't seriously resent implementing it in both C and Pascal, while also being complex enough as to actually use all the compiler intrinsics I want to show off (software interrupts; the I/O bus; hooking hardware IRQs; memory-mapped I/O) |
| 21:02 | <~Vornicus> | Yeah |
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| 21:10 | <&McMartin> | One of the unfortunate bits though is that there is no hardware IRQ for VGA refresh. |
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