| --- Log opened Tue Jan 10 00:00:34 2017 |
| 00:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: clojure is "just install one thing" (that thing being leiningen) |
| 00:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | I'm pretty sure Rust is at that point these days too |
| 00:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | jeroud: yeah, this is going to be a mix of calling java code (some of which takes and returns things like 'double[][]'), reifying java interfaces, and subclassing existing java classes |
| 00:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | The latter two mostly for UI stuff |
| 00:16 | | Kindamoody is now known as Kindamoody[zZz] |
| 00:56 | <&McMartin> | rustup is only now getting to work |
| 00:56 | <&McMartin> | Go has always been "just install one thing", to a fault |
| 00:57 | <&McMartin> | In that compiling Go code traditionally involves downloading from arbitrary URLs~ |
| 01:05 | <&ToxicFrog> | I was thinking more Cargo, which Just Worked for me, but I can't guarantee that I hadn't already installed some prerequisite of its |
| 01:05 | <&McMartin> | Right, cargo doesn't install rust itself |
| 01:05 | <&ToxicFrog> | Whereas my experiences with installing Go programs have been pretty unheamy |
| 01:05 | <&McMartin> | So the install script would indpendently install cargo and rust |
| 01:06 | <&McMartin> | rustup is now a persistent program that manages installations of both. |
| 01:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | Since the installation instructions are just "copy-paste this command", which assumes not only that you have go(1) installed but that you also have a functional Go development environment |
| 01:06 | <&McMartin> | Ah yes, go get |
| 01:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | Which involves a lot of flailing around trying to figure out what environment variables/config files/directories it needs, which is doubly aggravating because I don't want to develop in Go, I just want to install this one program written in it |
| 01:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | And then, once 'go get' succeeds, trying to figure out where it put the generated binary, because it sure isn't anywhere in $PATH |
| 01:07 | <&McMartin> | target/release/etc/etc |
| 01:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | Which is itself inside a directory named for the project, which in turn is somewhere in the maze of directories you had to create and point environment variables at for 'go get' to function at all >.< |
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| 06:05 | <&jeroud> | Yeah. Making golang work is the worst dev environment setup I've had to do in years. |
| 06:06 | <&jeroud> | Clojure was really straightforward except for having to learn the emacs mode. |
| 06:06 | | * [R] has yet to get a working golang setup |
| 06:06 | <&jeroud> | But that was well worth the effort. |
| 06:06 | <&[R]> | Actually compiling anything from Google seems impossible |
| 06:08 | <&jeroud> | OCaml was both trivial to get going (brew install ocaml opam) and has the nicest editing environment (emacs with tuareg-mode + merlin + ocp-indent). |
| 07:20 | | * sshine is reading the course book for a course he's TA'ing. the author has this history section on old programming languages and talks about stuff like "Why did LISP call its commands CAR and CDR?" -- it's all very entertaining. |
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| 08:35 | <@sshine> | incidentally, every time he namedrops someone, it's a woman. |
| 08:35 | <@sshine> | otherwise it's just "this and that programming language from this and that year". |
| 08:35 | <@sshine> | wait, that's not true. he did mention McCarthy. |
| 09:11 | <@abudhabi> | In what context? |
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| 15:41 | | macdjord is now known as macdjord|slep |
| 15:43 | | * TheWatcher vaguely eyes "A remote attacker could entice a user to process a specially crafted input stream using Python's zipimporter module, possibly allowing attackers to cause unspecified impact." |
| 15:43 | <@TheWatcher> | That's helpful, thanks guys. |
| 15:43 | <@TheWatcher> | (also, Band Name Alert: "Unspecified Impact") |
| 15:54 | <@gnolam> | That's not a band name. That's like book 2 or 3 in a sci-fi series. |
| 15:54 | <@gnolam> | The Watcherverse book 3: Unspecified Impact |
| 17:11 | <&[R]> | https://i.imgur.com/nEgbF6c.png |
| 17:12 | <@Tamber> | ...oh dear. |
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| 17:55 | <@TheWatcher> | Uh |
| 17:55 | <@TheWatcher> | Wups |
| 17:55 | < catadroid> | Que? |
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| 19:01 | <@abudhabi> | Did someone buy ALL the Steam games or something? :V |
| 19:02 | <&jerith> | Looks like the same Steam game ALL THE TIMES. |
| 19:03 | <&McMartin> | That or a rampant AI billing loop. |
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| 19:44 | <&[R]> | catadroid: https://i.imgur.com/nEgbF6c.png |
| 19:46 | <&[R]> | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C10GnnHXUAA0yuk.jpg:small |
| 19:47 | < catadroid> | D: |
| 19:48 | <&[R]> | I paticularly like the total. |
| 19:53 | < catadroid> | It's... Yes. |
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| --- Log opened Tue Jan 10 22:31:35 2017 |
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